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"On March 14, I will have fasted 30 days. My goal is to go till true hunger.

On around day 21, I felt a throbbing in my throat and an urge for food most of the night. I feel as I missed my "true hunger".

... Ever since, I have been bed ridden, unable to get up only to use the bathroom once a day. I am too weak to do anything else.

... As I am typing, I have now just started salivating excessively (for the first time) from my mouth and tongue. I felt like throwing up, but have calm down.

... I feel like death. I want to continue till at least 40 but want 50, but I don't even feel like I could live like for that much longer."

Hi friend,

I want to start by saying that i definately don't have all the answers and given your situation it would be awesome to be checked out by a qualified fasting supervisor.  Your experience is tricky because your body seems to be sending mixed signals (more on that below) and it is also true that your body fat and/or your mineral and vitamin reserves may or may not be at dangerously low levels. 

Taking blood pressure and heart rate measurements each morning is an important way of monitoring ourselves in a long fast, any abrupt changes being a warning sign... so this would have been truly useful in your situation. 

In my longest fast which went 36.5 days, stable readings day after day led me to continue fasting through my crisis until emerging through nausia and feeling pretty good before breaking.  As Chiron mentioned in your day 17 post, it is absolutely ideal to break the fast feeling good, something that was very important to me, but there are times when unfortunately it would be too risky to wait for this and your situation may possibly be one of them.        

I also agree with Chiron that throbbing in the throat (on day 21) does not sound like a symptom of genuine hunger. As well from what i understand about genuine hunger, it is not an event that can be missed, but rather a phenomenon that not only is outrageously powerful at the start, but something that will grow in intensity with each passing hour until nutriment is finally taken. 

Chrisb1 had this to say about true hunger:     http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1419633#i

Can it be assumed that you have been drinking water-only and that nothing else has been introduced that could be confusing your body such as vitamins, minerals, teas or artificial sweeteners? 

So i don't believe you missed genuine hunger at day 21, but what i do believe you missed was one good possible opportunity to break the fast on an up note while your body was high in vital force and just before it used this strength to engage in some deep cleansing and/or healing which then made you feel weak and lousy. 

see... Fasting: The Healing Crisis and Retracing from: http://chestofbooks.com/health/Isabelle-A-Moser/How-and-When-to-Be-Your-Own-D...

The charming and delightful MonteChristo reminded me of this site :]. 

While the heavy salivation can be one possible symptom of genuine hunger, i have never read of an individual feeling like death (including feeling like throwing up) once encountering it, so these symptoms together seem an odd combination and makes me think that the salivation is indicative of something else.  The one time i experienced genuine hunger, i was exceptionally alive and alert, strong, feeling great and in every way within every cell in my body eager for nutriment. Continued refrainment from eating was absolutely not an option!!

The day i reached genuine hunger (June 21, 2009) i wrote this:

"Fasted to "Completion": 30 Days.

Today has been a sensational day for me!

For starters, i knew it was to be my final day of fasting whether i achieved a return to genuine hunger (also known as "fasting to completion") or not. I was both excited about the prospect of achieving this goal of 30 days (if genuine hunger did not arrive sooner) and about the truly exciting prospect of being able put something in my mouth that had an actual taste.

What took me by extraordinary surprise is that about 8 hours before the 30 days were up, my body entered into this amazingly desirable (and desired) state of "genuine hunger", telling me that it was definately time to break the fast. I had pretty much given up on the hope of achieving genuine hunger this time around, so the surprise to me was phenomenal and i am sensationally excited that this arrived!

Had i not been 8 hours away from reaching a full 30 days, i would happily have broken the fast within an hour of experiencing this... the hour would have been to just be sure it was the real thing. But since i was so close to the 30 day goal, i forced my way through this very powerful sensation of physical hunger in these final 8 hours, which became more and more intense with each passing hour. These final 8 hours were most certainly the most fantastically difficult hours of the entire fast as my body was SCREAMING for food the entire time and it was so intense as to be all-encompassing.

The transformation of how immensely hungry i became today contrasts rather strikingly with the near total absence of physical hunger i had experienced in the previous 29 days and 16 hours."

So my sense is that you are mid crisis and your body will come to a place where you are feeling better... upon which would be a great time to break the fast avoiding another potentially long crisis... and a great time to break (on an up note) in the sense that you will likely feel better and stronger almost immediately upon breaking.  The other part of me believes that something could possibly be wrong and that the safest action you could take would be to gently, gradually and carefully break the fast with raw and/or cooked juices, preferably organic and fresh made.  If you are not able to see a fasting expert who might conclude otherwise, i would err on the side of caution.   

 

 

 
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