Re: Christian foundation built on sand EDITED

Hello, shermalik,

I'm 56 years old and came to Christ 23 years ago (most of that time I was what is called a 'backslider'). Four years ago, I was so disgusted about not being able to find a deep, warm, GENUINE two way relationship with the creator that I told God "I am never stepping foot inside another worship building, never again STUDYING or paying attention to ANYTHING the scholars and ministers have to say about you. Either YOU teach me TRUTH and draw me closer to you PERSONALLY or I'm simply GIVING UP trying to "be closer to you" by the guidance of man,....you will receive MY love, not man's".

Well, it turns out that that's exactly what God wants, so He taught me TRUTH.

God has hidden His true secrets for the sincere in a second message in scripture.

The "moneychangers" that Jesus chased out of the temple are still in charge of these "worship buildings" (it is the church of MAN that has this "investment" opportunity, not the CHURCH OF GOD).

Right now, satan is being restrained and cannot directly CAUSE any evil, satan can only TEMPT a PERSON to "cause" it (and has always been very successful in finding people that want to cooperate to cause wars, hatred, corruption, etc.).....

2 Thessalonians 2:6
"And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time".

...so because of HUMAN NATURE (human nature is human folly/foolishness), 'the world, the flesh, and the devil' are effectively the same thing....('god of confusion' is a very appropriate name for satan).....satan has always been used by everyone as a convenient scapegoat for everyone to blame instead of accept that THEY are the ones who caused EVIL. WE have nothing to fear from satan, he is being restrained. God did not leave us vulnerable to 'the evil one'.

Many things taught to us by the modern day moneychangers are COMPLETE LIES, discrepancies, and faulty 'understandings' ("INTERPRETATIONS"). When your parents tell you to take out the garbage, do you "understand" that AS IS or do you "interpret" that to mean TOMORROW (as convenient)?...would you "interpret" a cooking recipe also?

The moneychangers teach us "FEAR" because they need to keep us under their contol (they need our money, we are their livelihood)......

Isaiah 29:13
"and their fear of me is a commandment of men learned by rote".

The moneychangers teach FEAR as a ROUTINE BELIEF ("rote") in order to keep control of us so that we continuously seek THEIR guidance (and we cooperate because of "human nature"/the "flesh" weakness).

We should NOT FEAR GOD either (fear is only the BEGINNING of "wisdom"). We should not resent/FEAR The Lord's correction when He teaches us the error of OUR way/will so that we can grow spiritually. When we come to know Him, our love should become PERFECT and we should love Him with every fibre of our being (leaving NO ROOM for the FEAR OF HIM)....

Mark 12:30
"with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength".........(we are being told HOW to love Him).

1 John 4:18
"There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love".

We are not taught in the institutional/traditional teachings to TRULY have spiritual eyes and ears so that we can discover the "depths of God", we are taught to search the scriptures with 'commentaries' and find only what the ministers and scholars want us to know so that our money will continue to pay them well, but if we search with our spirit (proverbial 'soul' if you will), then we will find the "depths of God".....(as long as OUR spirit is compatible with God's spirit)...

1 Corinthians 2:10
"God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God".

Romans 8:16
"it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God".

We should not be "SLAVES" to a task"master", we should be "SONS" of "ABBA FATHER" (DEAR FATHER, God is the PERFECT parent)....

Romans 8:15
"For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!".

Our devotion (dedication TO Him) should include NO FEAR at all (we should BE EMPOWERED in Jesus as lords/rulers in the spiritual world/realm,....yes, even LORDS OF THE SABBATH)....

Mark 2:28
"the Son of man is lord even of the sabbath".

....yes, each of us should be like a son of "in His image man" (man before the fall).

Psalm 82:6
"I say, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you".


Luke 6:35
"and you will be sons of the Most High".

Most people choose to be only what is comfortable to them and will be whatever is in their conscience, but YOU have been able to look at this world with disappointment (disgust/repulsion for it's iniquity/failures)....

John 12:25
"He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life".

Ecclesiastes 2:17
"So I hated life, because what is done under the sun was grievous to me; for all is vanity and a striving after wind".

As a SON of man (SON of the most high), there should be NO FEAR in being dedicated (devoted) to our Lord....

2 Timothy 1:7
"for God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power".

In old testament times, it was a a law that commandments and rules/ordinances should be obeyed, but Jesus abolished all of that......

Ephesians 2:15
"by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that he might create in himself"........a "NEW creation".

....so that we could each be a NEW CREATION (spirit creation) that lives spiritually INSIDE Jesus's body....

....spirits inside Jesus have no gender, neithere are there any Jews (or non Jews, Gentiles/Greeks....the Romans were part of Greek civilization).....

Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus".

...we are not Jews, they were baptized into MOSES.

1 Corinthians 10:2
"and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea".

.....and they never had REST IN JESUS....WE DO!....JESUS is THE FINAL cleansing....

Hebrews 4:3 "never enter my rest".

The true devotion is not even called "christianity". It is called "the way". The "Incident at Antioch" is not taught because it would not serve the purpose of the modern day moneychangers. No matter what anyone thinks of Peter, Jesus characterized what kind of person Peter was by saying....

Matthew 16:23...also in Mark 8
"But he turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me; for you are not on the side of God, but of men"....

......(this is the only incident when Jesus says "Get behind me satan").

The word "christianity" is not in scripture (neither is the word "bible"). The word "christian" is in scripture twice (the only believer that used that word is Peter who denied Christ THREE times, Father,...Son, and Holy Spirit).

Acts 11:26
"and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christians".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch


Acts 9:2...(SAUL persecuted the followers of Jesus).
"that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem".

Acts 19:9....(PAUL preached TRUE devotion to Jesus).
"but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of the Way".

Acts 19:23
"About that time there arose no little stir concerning the Way".

Acts 24:14
"But this I admit to you, that according to the Way"

Acts 24:22
"But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way".


Jesus said "I am THE WAY..."....John 14:6.

There is a lot to learn about the truth of God, the sincere LOVERS of God need not worry,...The Lord looks at the heart.

All verses are from the RSV.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=true+wo...


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