move on. if you can't take a hint, let me give it to your straight: she's been hump'n more guys than you know of. once a liar, always a liar. these are just two you found out on. you've been played for a chump and still keep coming back for more. forget the counseling and stand up straight and tall for yourself, man. go find another woman while you still have years left to find one. the kids will be fine. your wife is screwing other guys. and you're ok with that? lol...geez...there's a name for women like that, brother. just because she's your *****, doesn't mean the LABEL DOESN'T APPLY. wake up and smell the coffee...she's told you she doesn't get hot and bothered with you and will never. divorce is perfect for a situation such as this. what more evidence to you need, columbo?