funny thing about guys like spuds...they haven't met a payroll or run anything of merit and if they did...they'd change their tune in a new york minute. can't remember how many folks i've seen go into business a fflaming liberal and come out the other end a staunch conservative. it's all well and good to tout overpaying yoru employees, but once you have to meet certain profit magin goals, you begin to understand. if the going wage is low, you hire up. if the going wage is high, you hire down. focus in on that, without all the personal attacks you get off on, and come back with something relevant to the topic at hand. and your response is????