I agree with the previously posters and would like to add & emphasize:
-- I do see this type as a very real threat to ALL aspects of CZ. As I pointed out in the original thread, no 'member group' can thrive & survive (let alone grow) without the influx of new members (and without losing the current ones). Anyone with eyes to see knows that posters have left and many have stated they will not share the site with others due to the personal attacks and overall non-adherance to the TOS & Posting Guidelines in the past, but it has NEVER been allowed to be as rude and slanderous as this before. I mean, really...this?
what herb do you have to treat your hypocritical nature
your lies and hypocritical nature
I am not interested in fighting with a delusional lunatic
you and the other hypocrites
The hypocritical monster rears its ugly head again
So not just hypocritical but also an outright liar!!!
and in a SUPPORT forum (with nothing being done even after the 'bad alert' was pressed). I see just now the thread has been moved to Personal Conflicts). So once again, very important information to health/healing has been buried due to someone breaking TOS/Guidelines...but the 'someone' not stopped from doing it in the first place.
Whether one views "CZ Success" as open/free sharing of information, hits, $ generated, healings that happen, or any other way, the one thing that is vital is that people feel comfortable posting their thoughts and opinions. The Webmaster has obvious spent LOTS of time & money these past couple of years simply keeping up with technological changes (which I find amazing if he's doing it all single-handedly). Still, CZ has managed to grow INCREDIBLY, even without them. I chalk that up to the incredible amounts of information and the supportive atmosphere that has always been the rule, rather than the exception. "Make new friends & keep the old, one is silver but the other is gold". We need to keep our current members and have a place where we can all feel comfortable inviting new ones - AND be free to share information without knowing that if our information disagrees with Hver, we're likely to called all sorts of names, be drawn into a fight and find ourselves ridiculed and slandered. Which brings me to my second point...
--Anyone that knows me (or cares to view my posting history) can clearly see that a bit of a rumpus doesn't stop me from sharing whatever it is I want to share. In fact, even a LOT of a rumpus or a bit of name-calling doesn't ruffle my feathers. I am not one that can be intimidated by a 'user ID' on the 'net - nor am I rarely intimidated in person. HOWEVER, after having 'gotten into it with Hver' last year, and then seeing that his habit of hurling insults & bashing others' integrity (when disagreed with on public forums), has been allowed to continue...and if anything IS done, the vital information is bured in 'Conflicts'...there have been dozens of times when I wanted to reach out to someone and offer them information. But when I saw Hver had already given his opinion I knew if I posted disagreeing information (no matter how respectfully), it would turn into him accusing me of things that are not true, insulting/slandering me, or causing a huge brawl (unless I kowtowed)...and then the information would likely be buried anyway. So I didn't post :( And if *I* am not posting because of the issue of having to deal with this (when I have an more than ample share of courage & 'girl cojones'), how much more often are others not posting because of him? I would venture to say a LOT.
It all equal less information, less hits, less growth and less potential for growth...not to mention the amount of very real people that are very hurt and distressed when they're already sick.
So, I guess I'm wondering if we have a TOS or Posting Guideline that is enforced, and applied fairly & equally to everybody? Or do some people have the right to call me/others "an outright liar, a delusional lunatic,hypocritical monster" without the 'banning consequence' applying to them?