As you have described, they seem to be a proud family as most americans are, have you tried telling this man about such normalitues as fruitarian or fasting. Are they quiet, many of these farmers have a pair of determined mindsets and I'd say if they could use them on healthy eating we'd be blessed. I'd say get the man a kidney cleanse,,, was that part of the herbs? Tell the people why they feel this way what the heaviness feels like, and other small notions, even mention my four years of fruit eating, doing good work my friend I am proud of you!!!