it is sad about my friend's suffering now 2 weeks after surgery... i did tell her about stones forming in the liver not the gallbladder, the flushing process, the percentage of people who still have the same symptems, etc... but she shot me down and went directly for the surgery, so she gets to live with her choice... i gave her all i had to give, then told her if she chose the surgery i wouldn't bring it up again, that i'd support her decision... i have remained true to my word and not mentioned the flushing anymore... the sad this really is that she could eliminate alot of her pain and bloating by still doing a flush...