It is becoming more apparent that you and hvergurthi are really light weights when it comes to holistic healing and the larger part of science! He cannot understand how to use simple testing equipment that many in the sciences have no problem whatsoever understanding and refuses to realize that these claims of use have been lab tested by many. It's very simple to test the readings of a refractometer with content testing of individual substances, its done all the time!
But hvergurti is typical of the medical expert ,his message is simple ,he is the authority and without him you cannot help yourself! It's impossible for a lay person to grow a high nutrient high sucrose fruit or vegetable themselves ,this can only be done in a laboratory!
Isn't it funny that Acid /Base theory is being hailed at an international symposium and half of the so called enlightened long time Curezonians are completely out of touch with these types of holistic healing advancements! Come on people( you know who you are) get your heads out of your blow holes!