Spud....ML has always been a lightening rod here from day one. Many things I disagree with him with.....but... there are also others who swear by him. Regardless of his etiquette. That is just the way it is. Grz is a prime example. One of the top two or three people here, and one who attibutes much of his success/recovery to ML. So I am willing to cut ML some slack. Even if I don't agree with how he runs things over there. Ultimately it boils down to results....and I am not saying that ML has all of the answers by any means...just that I am willing to cut him some slack because curezone is a big tent, and he has made a big difference in a number of lives. It is a testament to CZ that you can have both a private forum of ML's and H's running side by side. Freedom of information at its finest, warts and all. And some ML supporters will claim this forum is nonsense and heresy......and visa versa.......