thanks for the post raine and also for the weight tracker in the week both fab but i bet at least 60 percent of us women well overweight women have thought oooooooooooooooo to have a few thousand pound spare for one of the ops to end all the dieting misery once and for all but really deep down we all know we have to alter our eating habits dont we, and in all honesty even after just trashing a 10 day Water Fast this is by far the easiest and most fullfilling way ive ever lost weight and actually felt content doing so so its back to the beginning for me tomorrow congrats on your weightloss so far and yea i know what you mean about those flashy fandangled scales they know if you burped in last 10 minutes lol take care and keep up the good work karenx.