You would have to have been here for awhile to understand this debate, and you haven't taken the time to read past posts, so it's a moot point with you. It's a bit hard to jump in the middle of something, not understand the history of the debate, and be able to make sense of it. Again, this is an Miracle-Mineral-Supplement debate forum, Jonsher is pro Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , we are against it. You seem to be having difficulty grasping the fundamentals of debating Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , and not other things in life that annoy you.