Bruce is qualified, he has worked with the chemical for many years, knows it inside and out, and yet Jon, who has looked up a few articles about it, calls him a liar. Tom,Silverfox, has run hundreds of experiments with it and proved Humble wrong is qualified, but again, Jon, who read a few articles, knows more. I remember the day the Jon came on the board with questions about Miracle-Mineral-Supplement because he knew nothing about it. Now he's the expert, go figure.