I agree with Dameon 100%. It's funny, how we humans really do think alike and consciously are unaware. Nontheless, MH I thought by adding the herbs (pre-cleanse, liver flush, dewormer) one would magnify the potency of the oj fast? However, are you suggesting that without herbs one can partake in the fast as well? And achieve the same results? Please let me know...I do not have a problem with purchasing herbs, I would rather buy from you, God knows how much money I have wasted in the past. Thanks..