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Re: Regarding the use of probiotics - and possible pitfalls/dangers...Re: Somebody tell/prove me...why CAN'T it be assimilated ANYwhere in the intestines? :Re: Yes & No (& maybe) "yeast food for thought" Re: Red Star Yeast T6635+B-12 not synthetic.


I was thinking much along the same lines Unyquity... btw I am loving this thread aswell. I have also found in my personal experience that pro-biotics do nothing... but this might not be the fault of the probiotics, as much as the environment in my bodies not meeting the needs of the probiotics taken. So I do believe that probiotics can work, but only if... (and thats a big IF statement) the environment in the bowels is one that allow the probiotics to flourish.


I have found in my aquariums at home ( please excuse the constant references to my aquariums, but they seem to have the same nature as the bowels in my experiences) that supplimenting bacteria isnt always necessary. What I normally do is just let the bacteria cycle processes happen on thier own, or I might give the aquarium a few doses of bacteria you buy for the aquarium as the nitrogen cycle starts up (normally a cap full every other day until the cycle has balanced, which you know because the water is no longer cloudy... and the ammonia and nitrite levels are not spiking). Once the cycle is balanced, I never bought anymore of the start up stuff. Because the bacteria stay healthy and replicate on thier own... the ecosystem is balanced. Fish often lay eggs and such in my aquariums, I am not intentionally breeding them... I just try to follow nature and keep things as simple as possible, and the fish/plants thrive.

Now in other aquariums... where the water doesnt flow enough, they are too hot... too cold, or there is to much rotting debris... problems occur. I never found that pH is a problem in the aquariums though. As long as it stays between 6.0 and 8.5 with good water flow&temperature the bacteria flourish, and the water clear. Infact I have never had water less than 6 or more than 8.5... and I had to use pH buffers to get them to those pH levels. I think that pH in the bowels could be an indicator of a greater problem... possibly a low pH if to much stuff is rotting in the bowels... or some sort of anaerobic condition. That is actually when I enter serious problems... when the tank goes anaerobic. You know when this happens too, because the smell is just like that of a swamp (methane).

Another question I have... is how do babies get the bacteria in thier bowels. I have a few suspicions... possibly the mothers milk. But more than likely I notice babies like to chew on everything! put thier mouths on everything. Doesnt matter if its dirt or cigarette butts... they put it in the mouth. I wonder if all the bacteria a baby gets is from putting all those things in thier mouths...

So I really dont know whats happening in the bowels... but I have my suspicions. And that suspicion is if a person can make the environment in thier bowels one that is beneficial to all desirable bacteria... then they will be in better health. I also suspect that putting things in your mouth without washing them... IE grass, twigs, and such might be a way to get beneficial bacteria. Only a theory though...

"Like Andreas said, as a 'bandaid' or a symptom reliever, perhaps one wants to 'go there' with probiotic supplements. But cleansing out the acidic/toxic gunk in our organs and ingesting only truly natural forms of bacteria from truly natural foods (fermented or otherwise), and allowing our body to do the balancing is the ONLY thing that makes sense to me."

Makes perfect sense to me... except for the acidic part. I dont think acid is always a bad thing...

Also I am very much enjoying this thread... I am learnign alot aswell. I also like andreas very much... I have his books. Havent read them yet, but I am very inspired to.
 

 
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