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Senator Byrd Questions Bush Motives - The Speech wheelslip 22 y 3,818- May my prayers aid you in your journey... bon chan... mc 22 y 3,609
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... to AMERICA! WAKE UP, for cryin' out loud!
as wonderful as sen byrd's words ring in their true form, i am apt to believe they will do little to change people's minds about what is right and wrong. i'm certain that somehow one of bush's henchmen will find a way to bastardize these sincere words, and turn them on their head, resulting in byrd's seeming an "unpatriotic liberal", although he clearly stated that he supports the troops, and, if anything, sees bush's display of up-one-manship as inappropriate and disrespectful, as well as his speech being outright misleading. sadly, 61% of this population believe that 9/11, osama, and saddam are somehow correlated. what the soul can't purchase the mind sells. clearly bush has sold his soul a long time ago. how else could this power and popularity have been bestowed upon this complete and utter LOSER? as my dad would say, in his thick eastern european accent - "onnly in amuricah".
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Like Bu$h Will Allow This To Happen
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SwedeFox
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THAT is powerful
but you're right - bush will never allow it to see the light of day in this country. i'm going to france in a few weeks - i'll let you know if i see it there.
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I Call This Tyranny
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What, in God’s name, should we expect?
The ”war...
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dude, i freakin' LIVE in oregon!
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May my prayers aid you in your journey... bon chan...
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i’m far from a native - i recently moved out here because i loved the beautiful scenery, and because, during past visits, i had received the impression that people were more open-minded than back ea...
i'm far from a native - i recently moved out here because i loved the beautiful scenery, and because, during past visits, i had received the impression that people were more open-minded than back east. you know, what with the allowance of medical marijuana and euthanasia. i still believe it's one of the more "liberal" states, and it certainly IS pretty. i don't live in eugene. lapis, i'm so sorry to hear about your medical predicaments. was this work-related? if so, i hope you, in the very least, made them hurt. i don't have much faith in the legal system, but sometimes it does work to the advantage of the "little guys". best wishes in your rehabilitation.
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SwedeFox
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wheelslip
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dude, i freakin' LIVE in oregon!
SwedeFox
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What, in God’s name, should we expect?
The ”war...
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...from the Impeach Bush list....
Wizard
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...from the Impeach Bush list....
Oppose Tyranny ’03
”If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”
* George W. Bush, 12/18/2000, CNN http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
Many on the side of democracy, morality and the law of nations are facing dark times these days. Morale is waning. Bush has achieved what the media endlessly tells us is a ”victory.”
Perhaps. By ”liberating” Iraq’s vast oil reserves, and billions (trillions?) of U.S. taxpayer dollars, ShrubCo is in position for some good old fashioned exploitation at the moment.
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Another Criminal on the Loose Lapis 22 y 3,592-
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That creepy, crawling psychopath could haunt a house. And he gets all of the face time on Fox that he wants! You decide!
That creepy, crawling psychopath could haunt a house. And he gets
all of the face time on Fox that he wants! You decide!
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NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- A shocking French ad campaign that portrays famous French journalists as murder victims to drive home the dangers journalists face and the importance of defending press fre...
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NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- A shocking French ad campaign that portrays famous French journalists as murder victims to drive home the dangers journalists face and the importance of defending press freedom may be adapted to run in the U.S. and around the world.
"As soon as I saw it, I thought 'We've got to make it travel,' " said Bob Isherwood, worldwide creative director at Publicis Groupe's Saatchi & Saatchi.
Saatchi's Paris office created three graphic print and poster ads, one featuring leading TV journalist Christine Ockrent with a bullet hole in her forehead. The other two ads show male TV journalists -- Emmanuel Chain, who is in charge of a Sunday evening news magazine program, and Guillaume Durand, who hosts Campus, a popular literary talk show -- one apparently with a slashed throat and the other shot to death in a parking lot.
'Reporters without Borders'
The ads, for French journalists' group "Reporters without Borders," say: "Start fighting for press freedom before you lose it."
Mr. Isherwood said the ads, which started running in January, had a huge impact in France. He said he is putting the campaign on the agenda to be discussed at Saatchi's worldwide creative board meeting, to be held in Sao Paulo, Brazil, om April 28-30.
May use U.S. journalists
"I'm going to see if we can't run it globally," he said. "It's a very powerful idea. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to run it in the U.S., with U.S. journalists, and I'm sure people would do it."
He said the campaign could be re-shot in the U.S. and other countries, using local journalists.
"I'm sure people would do it," he said.
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Save The $200 Million Shrub - Dems Aren't Contesti... wheelslip 22 y 3,607-
who is he kidding?
SwedeFox
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who is he kidding?
thanking the sailors? how about not cutting their vet benefits when they retire? personally, i would be insulted. but then again, i just don't get this guy. apparently, the sailors did, because i'm sure the majority of them will vote for him again, even if it means losing their lives next time bush feels like playing the war games he so eloquently avoided in the 60's. how embarrassing! will someone PLEASE put an end to this brain washing? i can hardly take it anymore!
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How Many Votes Is One Dead G.I. Worth? wheelslip 22 y 3,377-
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A Test Question -
If you were locked in a room with Sadam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Karl Rove
and you had a gun with just two (2) bullets, whom would you shoot?
Answer: Karl Rove... Twice.
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***Roosters Guarding The Henhouse***
Lapis
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***Roosters Guarding The Henhouse***
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Here comes that old "National Security" ploy again. Can anyone say incriminating evidence.
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White House refuses to release Sept. 11 info
By FRANK DAVIES
Knight Ridder Newspapers
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration and the nation's intelligence agencies are blocking the release of sensitive information about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, delaying publication of a 900-page congressional report on how the terrorist assault happened.
Intelligence officials insist the information must be kept secret for national security reasons. But some of the information is already broadly available on the Internet or has been revealed in interim reports on the investigation, leading to charges that the administration is simply trying to avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report.
Disputed information includes a well publicized warning from an FBI agent that al-Qaida supporters might be training in U.S. flight schools and the names of the president and his national security adviser as people who may have received warnings that a terrorist attack was possible before Sept. 11, one official said.
"We're trying to keep in this report some matters that have been talked about in public, discussed in newspapers, and not to do that, flies in the face of common sense," Rep. Porter Goss, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Monday.
"The White House is continuing a trend of presenting obstacles to us rather than cooperating with us," said Tim Roemer, a former House member who participated in the congressional inquiry and is now a member of the independent commission investigating Sept. 11.
Goss, a Florida Republican, and Sen. Bob Graham, a Florida Democrat who headed the Senate Intelligence Committee last year, co-chaired a joint investigation over 10 months that detailed security lapses, bad communication and missed clues by the CIA and FBI that preceded the Sept. 11 attacks.
In December, the joint inquiry produced a summary of findings and recommendations on how to improve intelligence, but the complete report was withheld so agencies could review and declassify some portions of it.
Graham, who will officially announce his presidential campaign Tuesday, has said he thinks much of the delay is because agencies and the administration want to avoid embarrassment, not for valid national security reasons.
Goss, Graham and staff director Eleanor Hill had hoped to release the final report by February or March. Now they are hoping to release it Memorial Day, Goss said.
"I'm very frustrated this has taken this long," said Goss, a retired CIA officer with close ties to the administration. "There's a tendency for every executive to keep matters closed up, but most of what's in dispute should be made public."
Hill said she could not discuss the specifics of the information in dispute, but said a working group of intelligence officials objected to including some testimony from public hearings last fall and some data in her interim reports.
"Maybe they didn't realize it had already been made public, but we see no reason to keep it out of the report," said Hill, a former Pentagon inspector general.
An intelligence official familiar with the review process said on condition of anonymity Monday that "the process has taken time because many portions of the report need to remain classified to protect sources and methods."
The official would not comment on specific issues in the report, and said "we hope to complete the process by the end of this month."
But an official familiar with the report said one topic of disagreement was the so-called Phoenix memo of July 2001, in which an FBI agent warned his supervisors that Osama bin Laden's followers might be enrolling in U.S. flight schools.
The joint inquiry, in a Sept. 24 staff report, included portions of the memo and summarized how it was handled and ignored by FBI officials. Most of the memo is on several Internet sites. Now intelligence officials want to block releasing excerpts of the memo.
Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate committee during the investigation, said: "The memo should be declassified except for portions that might compromise an ongoing investigation."
The Bush administration also consistently have fought identifying top officials, including the president and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who may have received warnings in 2001 that bin Laden's network planned to hijack commercial aircraft.
As a result, the report includes vague references to "senior administration officials."
"We fought that argument (to name officials) and lost," said Goss. "There's a history in these types of reports, going back many presidencies, that you do not mention the president of the United States, period."
Goss said there was "no cover-up of vital information" and predicted the final report will include some embarrassing details but "no 'gotcha' material about any administration."
Roemer, an Indiana Democrat, said he sees a pattern of "overclassification" by an administration unwilling to disclose information and agencies that reflexively fight disclosure.
When Roemer recently tried to read transcripts of closed-door interviews from last year's probe, the Justice Department blocked him, citing possible executive privilege.
Bush officials relented after Roemer publicly complained the administration was not following its pledge of cooperation with the independent investigation.
"There is a tight definition of what should be classified, and it does not include references to mistakes, missed communications or political embarrassments," he added.
(Knight Ridder Newspapers correspondent James Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.)
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Blatant Media Propoganda Tactics
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Blatant Media Propoganda Tactics
Associated Press Puts Violent Words in Iraqi Protesters' Mouths
© 2003 Associated Press
On 30 April 2003, the Associated Press newswire carried the photo above and a related article headlined, "U.S. Troops Fire on Iraq Protesters Again." The story concerned the second time US forces had shot Iraqis engaged in anti-US protests, this time killing two of them and wounding 18.
Funny thing is, this article misreported the banner pictured above. As you can see, AP's own photograph shows the sentence: "Sooner or later US killers we'll kick you out." But this is how AP reported it:
"Sooner or later US killers we'll kill you," read an angry banner in English unfurled in the faces of GIs on guard in the central city.
Let's just say that there's more than a shade of difference between "we'll kick you out" and "we'll kill you."
Below is the portion as it ran on ABC News' Website.
Full Example Of ABC's Version Here
This article ran, most often without the photo, in dozens of news Websites around the US and the rest of the world, including USA Today, ABCNews.com, CBS News, Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, Chicago Sun-Times, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Ha'aretz (Israel), Guardian (London), Globe and Mail (Toronto), and dozens of local newspapers. There's no telling how many printed papers ran it. The screenshot below from Google News shows some of the news sites that ran the inflammatorily wrong information:
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Voter Ignorance Appears Infinite R wheelslip 22 y 3,404-
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i’m considering posting this very exerpt on every lamp post, building, empty wall, bill board, stall room door, bus stop, and fence around the city. although i’d probably be arrested for ”vandalism”...
i'm considering posting this very exerpt on every lamp post, building, empty wall, bill board, stall room door, bus stop, and fence around the city. although i'd probably be arrested for "vandalism" and kept incarcerated indefinitely for being a "threat" and a "terrorist". after all, what can be more dangerous than the truth? wheelslip, thanks for the post; and bill chickering, thanks for making it "postable".
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Diplomacy Based On 2004 Election
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Diplomacy Based On 2004 Election
IF I WAS A PALESTINIAN MILITANT (OR CIVILIAN) I'LD BE VERY QUIET
'TILL AFTER THE 2004 ELECTION!
Some see Jewish shift toward GOP
By Anne E. Kornblut, Globe Staff, 5/7/2003
ASHINGTON -- The Jewish community responded enthusiastically when Senator Joseph I.
Lieberman joined the presidential ticket in 2000, a move many saw as recognition of their long
support for the party of Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. As they had for every election in
decades, Jewish voters overwhelmingly cast their ballots for the Democrats.
But after a year and a half of strong statements
from President Bush about fighting terrorism,
along with his equally strong backing of Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel, some prominent
analysts in both parties say they detect a shift in
the Jewish community. For the first time in more
than 20 years, one Democratic pollster said he
sensed an erosion of support from Jewish
activists that could affect the presidential race.
And according to researchers at B'nai Brith,
younger Jewish Americans seem more likely to
lean Republican than their parents.
Younger Jews do not have the attachment to
defining moments in Democratic history like the
New Deal that their parents and grandparents do,
making them more open to consider voting for a
Republican candidate, the researchers said.
''Our conclusion is, there's going to be a fight for the Jewish vote in 2004,'' said Jay Garfinkel, executive
editor of the B'nai Brith magazine International Jewish Monthly, which is publishing the report.
There is already ''a detectable shift in the Jewish community, in terms of their openness and willingness to
support Republican candidates,'' said Matthew Brooks of the Republican Jewish Coalition. ''Right now
we're on a path, looking at 2004, where we're going to see, I think, that increase in Jewish support
continue.'' Not all Jewish voters support the Sharon government, which has taken a hard-line approach in
the Palestinian territories to rout out Terrorism and has been reluctant to stop settlement activity, a key
component of the peace process. Also, it is never simple to measure opinions in the Jewish community,
where views of the most outspoken leaders are not always shared at the grass roots. Political scientists also
differ in their assessment of how much opinions have changed.
But one prominent Democratic pollster, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that some Jewish
activists and fund-raisers have been lured to consider supporting Bush by his forceful response to terrorism,
an issue that resonates deeply with supporters of Israel and people who have traveled there.
Bush has sided with Israel repeatedly, referring to Sharon as a ''man of peace'' last year and demanding
that all terrorist attacks stop before the peace process moves ahead. In response, the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee has issued more than a dozen statements over the last year and a half,
''applauding'' Bush for his support of Israel, one sign of the evolving relationship between Bush and the
Jewish community.
In standing up to other countries, Bush has struck a chord with some Jewish voters, who may be liberal on
social issues but are generally hawkish on foreign policy, according to University of Virginia political
scientist Larry Sabato.
''I think some Jewish voters have been attracted to Bush's strength and national security stands beyond
Israel,'' he said. ''They prefer a strong foreign policy leader to a weak one, and we've seen this before in
previous highs among Jews voting Republican. There's certainly a precedent for this.
''It's part of the Bush-Rove strategy of marginal gains,'' Sabato said. ''They're not going to carry the
Jewish-American vote, but they can increase their performance from 2000, and in so doing make it much
more difficult for a Democrat to win.''
The Democratic pollster agreed, saying: ''Right after Sept. 11, there were polls that said Jews liked Bush.
Well, everyone liked Bush then.
''Having said that, there has been some erosion on the part of community influentials, leaders, even some
money people,'' he said. ''At the highest echelon [of leadership], there has been some erosion, but that is not
evident in the general public.''
Republicans have been trying to lay claim to the Jewish vote for years. With the exception of the Reagan
election in 1980 -- in which estimates suggest he earned 39 percent of the Jewish vote, compared with 45
percent for Jimmy Carter -- there have been wide gaps between Republicans and Democrats for decades.
Other estimates say George H.W. Bush won just 11 percent of the Jewish vote, compared with 9 percent
for Ross Perot and 80 percent for Bill Clinton. In the last election, George W. Bush won just 19 percent of
the Jewish vote, and Al Gore won 78 percent, estimates say.
Bush faced deep distrust from the Jewish community when he came to office, largely because of his past
statements about Judaism. In an infamous incident in 1990, Bush told his mother he did not believe that
Jews can get into heaven, prompting Barbara Bush to call a close family friend, the Rev. Billy Graham, to
set her son straight. Graham reportedly told Bush that such decisions are up to God, an answer that
apparently changed Bush's mind, but did not help his case among Jewish voters when he ran for president.
Yet religion has played a role in helping draw Bush closer to the Jewish community. Unwavering support
for Israel is an important conviction among evangelical Christians, who interpret the Bible to mean that,
among other things, the country belongs to the Jewish people. That has created an occasional and, at times,
awkward alignment between Republican Christians such as Bush and more liberal Jews, though their
religious beliefs vastly differ.
Still, Democrats who concede that Bush is making inroads with Jewish voters portray it as a corrective
shift, with Jews returning to their previous voting patterns.
''I expect the Republican vote in the Jewish community will go up slightly, to the levels it was in the 1970s
and '80s,'' said Ira Forman, director of the National Jewish Democratic Council. He denied that there is any
tectonic shift taking place, saying that it was unrealistic to expect Democrats to continue beating
Republicans among Jews by ratios of 4 to 1, as they did in the 1990s.
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I will not tolerate censorship
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Lynch and the Grand Myth Lapis 22 y 3,541- a little incredible, should I believe it all? netav 22 y 2,908
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netav - like you, whenever i have dared ”speak out against” this country, i have been told many times that i can ”go home” if i don’t like it. this is nothing new to me. I’ve always been a foreigner...
netav - like you, whenever i have dared "speak out against" this country, i have been told many times that i can "go home" if i don't like it. this is nothing new to me. I've always been a foreigner, wherever i've gone, and having grown up "never belonging" anywhere has taught me one thing - people are intolerant. kids, adults, foreigners. as for america, let's face it - no one, except for a handful of natives which have managed to survive, has any more right to be here than the next guy. we are ALL entitled to our opinions. one thing i've found that usually shuts people up is saying something like "oh, you mean like the russians sent THEIR outspokens to siberia when they disagreed?". gets them every time. because, let's face it, who wants to be compared to a communist? although these days, you could be called worse (imperialist, invader, war-monger, GW...). another thing that works pretty well is "well, at least i HAVE somewhere else to go, should i choose to...". there'll always be people with their heads up their asses. don't take it personally.
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