Thyroid Issues 
boatqueen
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Hi Moreless,
It's been awhile since I've posted. Last week, through a routine blood test, I learned that my thyroid is not functioning as it should. I am a 47 year old female. I was feeling pretty fatigued this past winter, and also had a 10 lb weight gain without changing my eating habits. I have started on medication, but was wondering if you could shed any light and/or advice on my condition.
Thanks as always for your insight.
- Re: Thyroid Issues moreless
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This is a reply to # 961,673Hi boatqueen,
Your question: It's been awhile since I've posted. Last week, through a routine blood test, I learned that my thyroid is not functioning as it should. I am a 47 year old female. I was feeling pretty fatigued this past winter, and also had a 10 lb weight gain without changing my eating habits. I have started on medication, but was wondering if you could shed any light and/or advice on my condition
Question: What supposed Thyroid problem is it that you are supposed to have ?
You mentioned you were fatigued this past winter, what about this spring and summer, did this problem continue ?
What are the medications supposed to be for ?
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- Re: Thyroid Issues boatqueen
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Question: What supposed Thyroid problem is it that you are supposed to have ?
I have hypothyroidism.
You mentioned you were fatigued this past winter, what about this spring and summer, did this problem continue ?
Yes. Perhaps what I should have written is that my fatigue started this winter. It certainly has continued.
What are the medications supposed to be for ?
Synthroid (50mg) which supplements the hormones that my thryoid has quit producing.
Moreless, it has been a few days since I wrote my first post, and I have been able to do a little research on my condition since then. I'm coming to the conclusion that I think I am completely responsible for screwing up my thyroid function. In all my research, I keep seeing a common denominator.......iodine, and we all know kelp is high in iodine. I've been taking two tablespoons of kelp a day for awhile now. Here is some info I found:
thyroids are extremely sensitive to iodine, and you need to be careful about adding too much iodine to the diet as it can irritate or aggravate the thyroid
I think this is EXACTLY what I did. Now, can I repair my thryoid by completely stopping the kelp? I don't know. I feel like a complete idiot when all I was trying to do was help myself.
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- --answer--Thyroid Issues moreless
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This is a reply to # 963,151Hi boatqueen,
Your post:
Question: What supposed Thyroid problem is it that you are supposed to have ?
I have hypothyroidism.
You mentioned you were fatigued this past winter, what about this spring and summer, did this problem continue ?
Yes. Perhaps what I should have written is that my fatigue started this winter. It certainly has continued.
What are the medications supposed to be for ?
Synthroid (50mg) which supplements the hormones that my thryoid has quit producing.
Moreless, it has been a few days since I wrote my first post, and I have been able to do a little research on my condition since then. I'm coming to the conclusion that I think I am completely responsible for screwing up my thyroid function. In all my research, I keep seeing a common denominator.......iodine, and we all know kelp is high in iodine. I've been taking two tablespoons of kelp a day for awhile now. Here is some info I found:
thyroids are extremely sensitive to iodine, and you need to be careful about adding too much iodine to the diet as it can irritate or aggravate the thyroid
I think this is EXACTLY what I did. Now, can I repair my thryoid by completely stopping the kelp? I don't know. I feel like a complete idiot when all I was trying to do was help myself.
Answer: I would have to disagree with your conclusion !
"WHY" do I disagree?
You say you have a problem of Fatigue, so the question is "WHY" ?
Fatigue is related to the Endocrine Glands not working properly of which the Adrenal Gland may have more to do with it than the thyroid in this case !
And the problem may be more associated to the Sodium to Potassium ratios than to the Iodine, which you are suspecting ?
If the Adrenal does not have enough Natural Sodium in "Proper" ratio to the amount of Potassium comming in the Diet, then it is "NOT" able to function properly !
Now consider this thought idea : When you get scared or Excited do not you have a Burst of Energy for a short moment, which may run out and then you feel tired afterwards ?
Have you not heard about people who were involved in an accident, like at the accident and someone was trapped in the wreck and their Adrenal system kicked in and gave them Great strength to get someone out of a Burning car etc and save this persons Life, only later to try to repeat the physical act and they were unable to move the heavy object etc ?
So, even tho the thyroid is in a loop feed back with the other Glands, it is the Adrenal Gland which may have a Greater Importance in if the body has Fatigue or not !
And the Adrenal must have enough Natural Sodium in ratios to the Potassium or it may Fail the body and a person may have Fatigue ?
And because most foods today are of such Poor Quality, thus they have too much Potassium Nitrate(NPN) in them, which Causes a shortage of needed Natural Sodium, thus Causing the Adrenal Glands to become Damaged, thus Causeing the problems you are suggesting !
If the Kelp is Not from the Coldest Ocean waters, but from warm ocean waters, this may Cause the Kelp to have a Greater ratio of Potassium to the amount of Sodium, thus add to these problems ?
Also the BSM is high in Potassium !
So, it is much more likely that this Fatigue problem is because of an imbalance of Sodium to Potassium, which is Causing the Adrenal Glands to not work properly !
But, the Doc is more than willing to tell you to take Thyroid Meds to get your problems supporting his Bank roll !
Smile Tis your choice.
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- Re: --answer--Thyroid Issues west4
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This is a reply to # 963,205If the doctor put her on Synthroid it must be because the blood test showed a high TSH which always proves that the thyroid is not producing enough hormone. Doctors don't put you on thyroid medication if your TSH is normal. And the doctor doesn't make any money on the Synthroid she is taking. What you said about the high potassium causing the adrenals to put out less than the necessary adrenaline to prevent fatigue has nothing to do with the thyroid not producing enough thyroxine. If that was the case, then everybody whose potassium level is high which is not hard to do since so many foods are high on potassium, like celery, spinach, BSM, would be hypothyroid. So everybody who takes the alkalizing drink would be hypothyroid. You need your thyroid to put out a sufficient level of thyroxine or else you will be very weak and eventually die in a few months just like you need your adrenal to put out enough adrenaline. What you suggested will help the adrenals but not the thyroid. I was taking nutri-meds thyroid hormone for three years or I would have probably died and was able to get off it for 18 months and now I am back on it. I just switched to Armour five days ago to see how that works. She needs to be on thyroid hormone until her thyroid starts to work again which for the great majority of people who are hypothyroid never happens. I wouldn't use Synthroid. I only use a natural thyroid like nutri-meds which you can get without a prescription or Armour. Synthetic thyroid hormone is not as good but it is still better than nothing.
- --Humor Me--Thyroid Issues moreless
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This is a reply to # 963,640Hi west,
Your comment: If the doctor put her on Synthroid it must be because the blood test showed a high TSH which always proves that the thyroid is not producing enough hormone
What you said about the high potassium causing the adrenals to put out less than the necessary adrenaline to prevent fatigue has nothing to do with the thyroid not producing enough thyroxine
Question for "YOU" : Now just "WHY" could it be that the thyroid would not produce enough Hormone or for that matter "WHY" would any of the Endocrine Glands "Fail" to produce the needed Hormones relative to each of them in the first place ?
Would it not make more Common Sense , if this may be the case, that instead of just taking a Hormone, to learn what the body needs so that it may produce the Hormone it's self ?
For anyway you want to cut it, with your thinking there is "NO" Hope of doing anything , but taking Hormones, because what you are saying is the Endocrine Glands cannot produce the Hormones they need to, and supposedly if they become Sick and Diseased, that there is "NO" Hope of Recovery !
I would say that kind of thinking is Drug and med thinking, with "NO" Hope for the patient involved, but to stay on Drugs ?
Doesn't seem like very much fun or happiness to me ?
Let me make it a little plainer for "YOU" ?
Suppose you stop drinking Any Liquids of any kind and after a week or so you are dried up and ready to blow away with each puff of wind, if you are not Dead already?
And you go to the Doc and he checks your thyroid and it is not working at producing any Hormones, because there is not enough fluids in your body, but hey he wants you to take thyroid meds for the rest of your life ?
Wouldn't it 1st make sense to drink some water to get hydrated again ?
So, what is the Difference in providing your body with what it needs to allow the thyroid or any other Endocrine Gland to produce it's own Hormones ?
Do you suppose it may be possible that if these organs are Lacking the needed Alkaline Minerals in the needed ratios that "Just" maybe they may not be able to produce the needed Hormones ?
Surley it could not be this Simple ?
Could it be ?
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- --No Hope ?-- moreless
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This is a reply to # 963,640Hi west,
Your comments: I was taking nutri-meds thyroid hormone for three years or I would have probably died and was able to get off it for 18 months and now I am back on it. I just switched to Armour five days ago to see how that works.
Answer: Your comments fit in the "NO" Hope area of thinking in my consideration !
For people who believe they are doomed for the rest of their Life to take Drugs to survive may have lost site of the wonders of our bodys ability to function without Sickness and Disease when it is cared for and feed properly the needed Healthy foods !
Even most people who buy a car which runs on gasoline have enough Common Sense to put gasoline in the gas tank !
For if they are stupid enough to pour water in the gas tank they may find out real fast the car will "NOT" run for them then ?
"WHY" is it some people cannot figure out that by feeding their Body "Junk" that they may as well figure on "Junk" results ?
Smile Tis your choice.
- Re: --No Hope ?-- west4
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This is a reply to # 963,710"Do you suppose it may be possible that if these organs are Lacking the needed Alkaline Minerals in the needed ratios that "Just" maybe they may not be able to produce the needed Hormones ?"
"For people who believe they are doomed for the rest of their Life to take Drugs to survive may have lost site of the wonders of our bodys ability to function without Sickness and Disease when it is cared for and feed properly the needed Healthy foods !"
My ph was above 7 when my thyroid stopped working and this was before I found out about the alkalizing drink. Then after I did a detox and after two months my thyroid started to work on its own. Then, after being on two alkalizing drinks a day with a tablespoon of Frontier kelp for eight months, and a few alkalizing baths, my thyroid stopped to work again even though my ph was 7-7.5. So, maybe what you say is true for most people but not for me. If I already have the needed alkaline minerals as evidenced by my ph and taking a tablespoon of Frontier kelp which is supposed to balance your thyroid and my thyroid is still not working what do I do? I take the nutri-meds or Armour thyroid so that I can live. There may be another reason why my thyroid is not working besides what you say. There are a lot of things that science still doesn't know about how the thyroid works. What should people who had their thyroid removed or people whose thyroid is not working not matter what they try do? Is my logic too logical?Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 964,692Hi west,
Your comment: My ph was above 7 when my thyroid stopped working and this was before I found out about the alkalizing drink. Then after I did a detox and after two months my thyroid started to work on its own. Then, after being on two alkalizing drinks a day with a tablespoon of Frontier kelp for eight months, and a few alkalizing baths, my thyroid stopped to work again even though my ph was 7-7.5. So, maybe what you say is true for most people but not for me. If I already have the needed alkaline minerals as evidenced by my ph and taking a tablespoon of Frontier kelp which is supposed to balance your thyroid and my thyroid is still not working what do I do? I take the nutri-meds or Armour thyroid so that I can live. There may be another reason why my thyroid is not working besides what you say. There are a lot of things that science still doesn't know about how the thyroid works. What should people who had their thyroid removed or people whose thyroid is not working not matter what they try do? Is my logic too logical?
Answer: As you have stated your pH was High before and after your thyroid problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you reasoned quote: Then after I did a detox and after two months my thyroid started to work on its own.
What do you suppose your body got rid of in the Detox that helped your thyroid work beter for a little while, before it ran into problems again from your choice of Poor Quality Foods, which Caused the problem in the first place ?
So, "WHY" did you get thyroid problem in the 1st place ????????????????
Could it be that you may be forgetting that Nitrogen(Protein) may be the Joker card in this problem you are experiencing?
As Nitrogen in the Ammonia Isotope may Cause a very High pH, and while it is doing so it may also Cause the body to become very short of needed Oxygen !
How long can "YOU" Live without Oxygen ?
Do you suppose your thyroid may also need Oxygen to work properly ?
Surely it could not be this Simple ?
Could it be ?
As usual not everything may be as it may first seem to be !
Having a High pH is "ONLY" telling us that the things we are eating is Causing this to be so !
Then we need to determine if the high pH is from needed Alkaline Minerals "OR" too much Nitrogen(Protein) of the Ammonia Isotope, which may thus Cause us to become too short of needed Oxygen, thus also "KILLING" us slowly !
And generally if the high pH is from the Nitrogen Isotope of ammonia, then this generally may mean that we are short of needed Calcium !
Smile Tis your choice.
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This is a reply to # 964,716I would think my ph of 7 is from the alkalizing drink which has enough calcium and magnesium. If I eat meat or junk food for a few days in a row, my ph goes down to about 6. I don't eat a perfect diet buy I do eat enough organic vegetables and whole grain cereals everyday with the alkalizing drink. For many years until 5 years ago I used to eat worse than now and my thyroid was always working. I even used to drink two alkalizing drinks a day and my thyroid still stopped working.
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Hi west,
Your comment: For many years until 5 years ago I used to eat worse than now and my thyroid was always working.
Answer: Do you suppose that "just" maybe your past Poor eating habits may have caught up to you ?
Smile Tis your choice.
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- Re: --No Hope ?-- liberam_joy
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This is a reply to # 964,692Hello, West
Is it possible that you need to detox periodically in order to re-gain the integrity of your thyroid functions? It seems that toxins are culprits in making our organs "dysfunctional" no matter how alkaline we may be?
Liberam
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- Re: --answer--Thyroid Issues boatqueen
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This is a reply to # 963,205
So, it is much more likely that this Fatigue problem is because of an imbalance of Sodium to Potassium, which is Causing the Adrenal Glands to not work properly !
Hmmmmm. In the very same blood test where it showed my thyroid isn't functioning at full capacity, it also showed my sodium and potassium numbers to be right where they should be.
My sodium number was 141 (normal range 137-146)
My potassium number was 4.0 (normal range 3.5-5.1)
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This is a reply to # 966,737Hi boatqueen,
Do you know what Normal is ?
Normal is like taking two pans and putting Boiling water in one and Ice water in the other and sitting down and putting your bare feet, one foot into the Boiling water and the other foot into the ice water, and the avg between these is Normal ?
Fatigue is Caused because the body is not able to provide a stable Release of needed Electro-magnetic Energy to power the body !
And the chief Organ of the body, which controls this may be the Adrenal Gland !
If the Adrenal Gland is Sick, then none of the other Organs of the body may work properly, which includes the Thyroid !
And it just so happens that the Adrenal Gland may need a steady supply of Natural Sodium, to enable it to function properly !
If you wanted to spend the money on enough tests checking your Sodium to Potassium ratios thru-out the day and nite and during the times of Fatigue and when you do not have the Fatigue, then you may begin to understand what I am trying to share ?
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