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3. U.S.P.
A chemical grade of sufficient purity to meet or exceed requirements of the U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP); acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use; may be used for most laboratory purposes.
2. Reagent
High purity generally equal to A.C.S. grade and suitable for use in many laboratory and analytical applications.
1. A.C.S.
A chemical grade of highest purity and meets or exceeds purity standards set by American Chemical Society (ACS).
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MoreThis is a reply to # 898,168My biggest concern is heavy metals, lead and mercury. ACS grade may need to have low amounts of chloride, while USP grade may contain more chloride. But, I don't care about chloride, since it poisons me not. These fancy designations have a purpose, but the extra expense of reagent grade materials isn't justified in lots of cases, for example in the case of chloride, above. Or, say, iron content. A few ppm of iron may render the material unsuitable to be labeled as reagent grade, yet those few ppm would be likely to have no neg. effect on one.
What I have more concern about is the raising of the fluoride threshold lately. The designation USP may , at some point be changed, just as Monsanto had lobbied to have the max number of deaed white blood cells (pus) in milk increased, to no longer render milk produced using their bgh being considered unfit for human consumption.
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This is a reply to # 898,206I'm almost afraid to ask!!!
Found this tho:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine#Sources
Iodine is found in the mineral Caliche, found in Chile, between the Andes and the sea. It can also be found in some seaweeds as well as extracted from seawater, however extracting Iodine from the mineral is the only economical way to extract the substance.[citation needed]
Extraction from seawater involves electrolysis, the brine is first purified and acidified using sulphuric acid and is then reacted with chlorine. An Iodine solution is produced but it is yet too dilute and has to be concentrated. To do this air is blown into the solution which causes the Iodine to evaporate, then it is passed into an absorbing tower containing acid where sulfur dioxide is added to reduce the iodine, the solution is then added to chlorine again to concentrate the solution more, the final solution is the iodine at a level of about 99%.[citation needed]
Another source is from kelp. This source was used in the 18th and 19th centuries but is no longer economically viable.
In 2005, Chile was the top producer of iodine with almost two-thirds world share followed by Japan and the USA reports the British Geological Survey.
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This is a reply to # 898,223The Chilean saltpetre (nitrate) deposits are the result of hundreds of thousands of years of accumulation of ---- bird droppings.
In WWI, the Germans obtained these nitrates for use in explosive manufacture via shipping, until a naval blockade cut off their supply. In response, Fritz Haber, developed a process to produce ammonia from nitrogen in the air, which ammonia was then oxidized to nitrate, thus alleviating the need for Chilean saltpetre for continued prosecution of the war. Ammonia is also a fertilizer, which may be applied directly to the soil.- Dang, concentrated Guano! Ladylove
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This is a reply to # 898,246..NOW I understand why Nightingale doo-doo was used in old Japan for a facial treatment..
Hehe, thank God we aren't having to distill it.
:)
Good Health,
Ladylove :)
- Dang, concentrated Guano! Ladylove
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This is a reply to # 898,223You guys are not gonna believe this, but when I was a little
girl (age 8-11) we lived in Santiago, Chile. The first place we
lived was a rented mini-villa on the outskirts of the capital.
It came with two maids who were sisters, and a dog. Guess what
the dog's name was? Caliche! I knew it was a name native
to Chile and of Indian (Mapuche) origin, but I did not know the
meaning till now. No wonder I was at my happiest during those
years! It was the Iodine levels in the soil! And here all these
years I thought it was the beautiful Chilean people--it probably
was, as well, but it was also the caliche! Increible!- Re: Caliche GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 898,359It's a small world after all.....now that song will be stuck in your head for days! haha
Amazing story !! It makes me wonder why they don't use the caliche mineral AND the Iodine together instead of taking the Iodine out of it. I'm sure there is an answer somewhere to be found!
I wonder if the word 'caliche' has a specific meaning?
Found it:
The American Heritage Science Dictionary
hardpan (härd'pān') Pronunciation Key
A hard, usually clay-rich layer of soil lying at or just below the ground surface, in which soil particles are cemented together by silica, iron oxide, calcium carbonate, or organic matter that has precipitated from water percolating through the soil. Hardpans do not soften when exposed to water. Also called caliche.
ca·li·che /kəˈlitʃi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuh-lee-chee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Geology.
1. a surface deposit consisting of sand or clay impregnated with crystalline salts such as sodium nitrate or sodium chloride.
2. a zone of calcium carbonate or other carbonates in soils of semiarid regions.
Compare duricrust, hardpan.
[Origin: 1855–60; < Sp: flake of lime, equiv. to cal lime (< L calc-; see chalk) + -iche n. suffix]
- Re: Caliche julieuma
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This is a reply to # 898,370I think the word "cal" means lime in Spanish. Thanks for looking it up!
Yes, it is totally amazing to me--brings back happy memories, too!
(thanks, V.!)
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This is a reply to # 898,173I have been able to review the assays of USP and ACS side by side, and the USP has higher levels of metals in it, the ACS lower.
This squares with what I was told by people at the ACS itself, who told me that the ACS was a purer standard.
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- Jeff? Re: 3.usp b2reflect
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This is a reply to # 898,168I get your Lugol's is USP...I have read you remark on that several times. What I am not getting is if the other two are Better quality than USP, why do you insist on not acknowledging their quality...from other sources, than your company's?
The kick here is...so many of these posters (not all) are against government regulations and big pharma, so by saying your product is USP, is it not under big pharma?
Also, as I mentioned below, I understand you are in business to make money. I do not consider that to be a bad thing! Yet, if others can find the same quality (or better...#2 and #1) than what is your purpose of protesting with your brand being USP? Not everyone will buy from you but there are obviously many here in this forum alone, who will just due to your being in this forum...which is good business savvy on your part. Again, I believe in the Right to Make Money, I do not believe it is an evil...money, that is or making it.
Thanks for your thoughts on this...and your time.
Peace,
Beth- Re: Jeff? Re: 3.usp jcrows
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This is a reply to # 898,217_Hi,I can read, but I am not an expert. No other definition except the one for USP uses,the words,"acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use".
I find those words interesting.
When others make claims about superior price or purity available elsewhere I resort to the mean by which I define my business: finest quality, excellent customer service, education.
Jeff@Crows
- Re: Jeff? Re: 3.usp ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 898,236"No other definition except the one for USP uses,the words,"acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use".
The simple truth is that they allow MORE impurities in something that is "acceptable for food, drug or medicinal use" than is acceptable for lab research. The smallest parts per million will throw off experiments, so the ACS sets the standard HIGHER than what is acceptable to USP.
This is what I was told by the American Chemical Society. (ACS)- Re: Jeff? Re: 3.usp b2reflect
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This is a reply to # 898,248Sounds then like USP, is NOT the BEST option for an individual to consume then?!
- Re: Jeff? Re: 3.usp ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 898,250I think that USP is FINE to use, IMO. But, I think that it is silly to try and say that it is the only one, when it is plain that in the chemistry world, ACS is a HIGHER standard.
Their are several OTHER grades that are still higher and purer than ACS ... but the expense becomes unjustified, IMO.
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- Certain chemicals become more hazard... Ladylove
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This is a reply to # 898,236Hi B2R :),
I have had this very discussion with a Chemist friend of mine..
Although in our conversation we weren't talking about Iodine (Oh I remember now, actually it *was* Potassium Iodate and Potassium Iodide) His input was, more purity is not necessarily a desirable thing, especially in chemistry. For one thing, it means more concentration, and it may be too much.
The chemical may react differently. The LD50 may be very different, also.
When there is a designated grade like USP, that is the indicated grade to use for anything involving human consumption. The other grades are for other applications.
IMHO it's better to stick to the USP grade, since that's where the data is for human consumption. Otherwise IMO you're on unknown ground.
Good Health to all of Us,
Be Safe.
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This is a reply to # 898,599Thanks LadyLove,
Now YOU have answered this question as to why, it would be better! Although, I am and will be doing the Reagent grade because that is what I purchased, I now understand WHY. As Jeff said, it is food grade...that made sense but it still seemed to ME that above and beyond would be better for an individual.
Thanks for your time and have a superb week forward, Lady!
Peace,
Beth
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- P.S. Jeff Re: 3.usp b2reflect
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This is a reply to # 898,168I see below that you state USP is standard for human consumption whereas Reagent is not, yet I have consumed it with no ill effects (as well as some others, I remember saying getting theirs from Sciencecompany.com).
How do you explain that, then?
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