So, does that prove that Faciolopsis buskii (misspelled by Hulda, a liver fluke found only in SE Asia and which must have a portion of its life cycle outside a body) exist?
I've been nuking my dish rags for years. Should I now go write a book that tells people the cures for all their diseases? Does that make me qualified to do that?
"The only thing it really shows is that she's not 100% wrong. No one is, but you'd be hard pressed to find a detractor who understands that fact, whether anti-Clark or anti-anything-else, really."
I've never said she's 100% wrong. I bought her book years ago before I knew anything about her. It didn't take me much reading to discover that she's nuts. The infamous Faciolopsis buskii (which she misspells) and claims is in every cancer (and many other North American human ailments) is the most preposterous thing that one can imagine. I'm a 14 year cancer survivor without every having had it removed and by her idiot (there is no other valid word) scam, I should be swimming in them. I'm not. I've done a multitude of cleanse and never dispelled a parasite of any kind. The Faciolopsis buskii has never been found in a cancer patient in North America! Yet her followers believe every word that proceedeth out of her mouth.
She claims a cure for cancer, yet her own brother died of cancer after she treated him.
She's a scam artist making mega bucks off of her followers.
The infamous Faciolopsis buskii (which she misspells) and claims is in every cancer (and many other North American human ailments) is the most preposterous thing that one can imagine.
Then you really don't have much of an imagination.
She's a scam artist making mega bucks off of her followers.
Megabucks? Megabucks? Clark? Here's where you prove your own bias. I defy you to show me where Clark has made "megabucks" off of her "followers".
"Jayson's claim, however, was that Clark is a scam artist, making megabucks off her followers. Thus, I challenged him. Where are the megabucks?"
You only challenged me on the megabucks, so that means you agree that she's a scam artist. Anyone who says that you have a fluke in your cancer and that they can cure it, is a scam artist! Especially when they have not a single documented 'cure.'
"do you know that she has made a lot of money off her books, etc? how so?"
In one of my earlier posts I mentioned that her books and gadgets are peanuts. I don't think she has made a lot on those, though I do think it would be significant. The money is in her clinics. There is one in Mexico, Switzerland, and I believe she is in line to open or has opened clinics in several other countries as well. The books just provided publicity for her clinics.
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"The infamous Faciolopsis buskii (which she misspells) and claims is in every cancer (and many other North American human ailments) is the most preposterous thing that one can imagine."
"Then you really don't have much of an imagination."
I have no idea in the world what you are talking about. If you mean that the fluke exists only in Hulda's imagination, then you are right. Cancers have and still are being removed and diagnosed on a daily basis. This has been going on for decades. The fluke she alludes to is more than two inches long. Yet not one, nary a single fluke, has ever been found in North America. Is that because science doesn't have "much of an imagination?"
"Megabucks? Megabucks? Clark? Here's where you prove your own bias. I defy you to show me where Clark has made "megabucks" off of her "followers"."
My bias? Its just the facts, its just the facts. The books and gadgets are peanuts, but by simple computation of her fees in Mexico and the number of people who run through there each year, she is making millions.
Hulda Clark has not cured one case of clinically diagnosed cancer. Not one. I have! (But just one.)
"Do you have her fee schedule available that you can post?"
What is below, is from Quack Watch. However, a person with whom I was in communication with three or four years ago, spent $12,000 in Mexico during a two weeks period for Hulda's treatments (not including motel and food), and they still wanted to do more but she couldn't afford it. Recognize that this is American dollars, and the Mexican pay scale, even for professionals is a fraction of what it is here. By the way, this person was personally diagnosed by Hulda on her witch hunt machine and declared to have had cancer. (No other medical professional ever made a similar diagnosis.) Hulda's 'treatment' 'cured' the cancer. Keep in mind also, that she has licensed clinics in other parts of the world too - so, it isn't just her books and gadgets and Mexico, she's got bucks coming in from all over.
from Quack Watch:
For several years, Clark's treatment has been administered at Century Nutrition, a clinic in Tijuana, Mexico, where the basic fee for two weeks of "treatment" was $4,500 (plus 10% tax). This figure did not include the cost of a motel room (approximately $210/week); meals ($250/week); blood tests ($70 each); standard diagnostic imaging tests ($40 to $400); dental x-rays (at least $206); "individually tailored" supplements ($400 to $1,500 for a month supply); equipment (about $350); tooth extractions ($80 each); and partial or full dentures ($450).
"without knowing if this fee schedule is accurate, without knowing exactly what products and services these fees include, and without knowing the cure rate of hulda's clinic, its absolutley impossible to conclude whether or not these fee or too high or too low."
The person I was in communication with, spent $12,000 in her Mexican clinic in two weeks. Too high or too low? Have you been to Mexico? Have you spent any money on a dentist or a doctor down there? I know a guy who got a set of false teeth down there for under $100, and they were pretty good. Comparable up here if I remember right was more than $500. If Hulda's getting 100 customers a week, she's making a bundle and from what I understand, that number isn't too wild.
"for note - i met someone who was poisoned by benzene from a jet fuel fire. he suffered brain impairment and nervous order disfunctions. went to MANY docs, they could not help him. he went to hulda's clinic, and got 80 - 85% better. NO ONE else could help him mind you, she helped him. he also met many there who had been cured of cancer. so i know for a fact her clinics do help people."
I agree that for clearing toxins our medical community in the USA are pretty
lame. It's her "cure for all disease" that's caused by a South
East Asian fluke that I puke at.
Hulda does not have one documented cancer cure. Her brother, after being treated by Hulda, died of cancer. The person that I was in communication with who went her clinic was convinced after Hulda's diagnosis (and no one else) that she had cancer! All those that you speak of who were 'cured' of cancer could easily have been 'diagnosed' by Hulda. She is sweet and charming. She is a typical con artist. That's what the person who I mentioned earlier said, how warm and sweet Hulda was, and she just 'knew' a person like that couldn't lie.
I'm still looking for her first documented cancer cured case.