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Hi all, I did the liver flush. I used the e. salt with grapefruit. Needless to say I will mix as I go next time. Which I doubt I go this route for a liver flush. Things went fine....but at 10. pm. I layed down and my feet were so cold. My legs and My lower back really hurt. I at some point had a major pain in my upper left chest. Anyway between bathroom trips and all....I didn't get much sleep. By 7am, I soaked in a hot bath. Needless to say I really needed this......It really burned when I used the bathroom either way....I would use it then jump back in to get relief. This got worse til sometime after 4pm. I never felt so much pain and this made me weak and lightheaded. Oh yes I have hemmroids (hope the spelling is right) anyways...guess this was the cause....I have taken e. salt before....and this never happened. Well the salt burned both ways even on the skin around the areas. But above all this, and feeling so weak and drained, I can say I passed 74 green pea size things!! My skin feels soft. And areas under my eyes have gotten a little lighter. Some sores that left red behind for the longest time seems to be getting lighter. I can breathe clearer. I don't feel as if my head is clogged up. And the back of my throat, I can see signs of them clearing up....It does not hurt or feel pressured when I swallow. And of course lower abdomen got smaller and area where I had surgery got smaller....area under my breast in smaller. Area around my breast and ribs does not hurt as much.....plus a swollen area under my left arm is gone. So my experience is told.....sorry if I seem to jabber on. My question is "Have anyone seem to experience the burning and all?" And is there another way to do a Liver Flush with out the e. salts. I would love to finish cleaning out the liver and all, but doubt I go this route again. Will the Bentonite and husk powder clean it out also? Also Can someone give me some advice on the Bentonite and husk powder.....guess I am looking for a detailed sch. to follow. I don't want to go wrong. I just rec. a juicer, and would love info and recipes on this.:) Sorry so long..forgive.....But another Question....I am working on my health, but is there a site on children's health? Like if children can benefit with taking Bentonite also and how much. But any info is good....we have being watching our foods and so forth...Well thanks ahead to all that can help me....and I am sorry I posted a long post.:) A Brighter Day......KizerAdvertisement
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- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Tracey
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MoreThis is a reply to # 429,723Kizer....what a first flush! Are you recovering allright? It sounds like the Epsom Salts just wiped you right out. A few of my friends have talked about the 'burning' you're talking about. Don't know why it happens to some and not others. (hemmorhoids?) There are plenty alternative Liver Flushes that don't use Epsom Salts . You can actually do the 1/2 cup olive oil and 3/4 cup freshly squeezed pink grapefruit Flush...do everything as usual, except replace the Epsom Salt drinks with apple juice. If you drink lots of organic apple juice for a couple of days before that should help too.
As for the Bentonite and psyllium...here are a couple of great links by Ptree!
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=105&i=979
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=847
I wouldn't take the Bentonite and psyllium the day of the liver flush. It won't help to get the stones out, really. In the long run, yes, but within a day, no.
My favourite juice to juice is carrot, apple, beet, ginger...mmm mmmm!
Well, Kizer, it sounds like you are well on your way to becoming happily healthy! I'm so glad to hear of the many little things that feel better and are clearing up....amazing! And after only ONE flush! Way to go!! And the next time will be better....no burning.
Congratulations on your 74 stones!
*I'm not sure about children and cleanses. You are probably doing the right thing by just making sure they are eating well and healthily.
Tracey
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- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Shelley
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This is a reply to # 429,725Congratulations on your first flush! I hope that it was not as bad as you thought. I just wanted to tell you that I understand about the burning. I don't have hemorrhoids, but I do have a few fissures from being constipated. The Epsom Salts burn my throat and my...you know, exit. After I finish with each Epsom salt, I drink a tablespoon of honey for sooting. Then I apply some cream to my bum and spread some vaseline up as far as I can. I know it sounds gross, but it gives me relief when everything that shoots out burns.
Good luck,
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- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... ocean
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This is a reply to # 429,733can't type long, so sorry this is a rush job,but yah, i burned #2 on the second flush when i kept all the mixtures down.
i think someone said that might have been bile. hmmm. still a mystery...
children....lots of cleanses are good for kids. even same ones as for us just in smaller doses. i guess it depends on the age too...mine daughter is bigger then me so the adult cleanse for her.
she was sick for the first 2 days, yesterday nite completey wiped out, she's on the paragone. today she was cheery as ever. so her occupants are most likely dead and on their way out.
will update! congrats on the flush! :-)- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Kizer
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This is a reply to # 429,774Hi Ocean and Thanks. You mean the bile coming out is what burned? Recon full of tox. ? Yelp a Mystery..I hope to figure it out. I took e. salts with just lemons before or water.....and no burnings. So this is why it confuses me so. Did you take the E.salts with 3 cups of grapefruits or with water? I was thinking that may have being it, All the grapefruit ?? I do Thank you for sharing info about children doing the same, for, I want to get my body healthy but also want to help my son. He has asthma. So he stays sick alot. Anythng can trigger it..and with spring coming....well I want him better:) and dark circles under his eyes to go away. I got him off milk, now it is rice milk we drink. He hates cheese so this is no problem. We have warm cooked oats for breakfast or pancakes with honey. Or now maple syrup. He loves raw veg. at any time. I now use Seasalt if any . And just got a juicer so instead of OJ in the markets, I will juice fresh fruit drinks. Store bought ones is so loaded with sugars. I watch the bread intake..I don't think my son nor myself can handle wheat, or much yeast. And I got his water intake up...he also keeps water beside his bed if he starts to cough. He is on singular....I wonder if this is best. Paragone? I have not heard of this, what is it? Thanks for sharing..I am glad your Daughter is feeling better. A Brigter Day, KizerAdvertisement
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This is a reply to # 429,782I HAVE AN NORWALK JUICER AND A WHEATGRASS JUICER. THERE ARE COUPLE OF BOOKS THAT HAVE VERY GOOD RECIPES IN THEM ONE IS BY NORMAN WALKER AND THE OTHER ONE IS BY MICHAEL MURRAY. DO YOUR OWN THING. I HAVED BEEN VERY BUSY SO I WENT TO MY HEALTH FOOD STORE AND BOUGHT A JUICE MADE OF APPLE, CARROT, BEET AND I SAW SOME IMPROVEMENT. I ALSO BOUGHT SOME WHEAT GRASS AND HAD WHEATGRASS 3 TIMES A DAY OFR 3 DAYS AND I WAS STARTING TO FEEL BETTER. I HAVE SOME STUCK STONES SINCE I HAVE DOME THE Hulda Clark cleanse. i have done 3 cleases. i will probably do another one next friday. i grown my own whaetgrass in the spring.
good luck.- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Kizer
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This is a reply to # 429,836Hi Butterfly, Thanks for the advice. I will try different things and see what I like.:) Wheatgrass- I always wondered how this tasted. How is it good for You? What if you think you can't handle wheat? Is this the same thing? This has helped passed the stones? What cleanse do you use for the liver flush? Do you add anything different that works better for you? I am wanting to learn different ways in case one is not for me. Maybe I can get my hands on the books. Thanks. Third flush, do you see a difference in yourself after the cleanses? Thanks for sharing, hope you don't mind the questions. Good luck on your next flush:)
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- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Kizer
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This is a reply to # 429,733Hi Shelley, Thanks. The pain of both burning will be so unforgetful for awhile. I thought I would pass out or something. I will remember the honey, if I go this route again. I did put vaseline to both (front and back) for both areas burned. Then would just soak right after for it hurt so. Was the only thing that gave instant relief (soaking). But later I let my bath water out and tried a cold cloth, needless to say the cloth did not feel like much relief. I did put cream on for hemr.. and tried to put my hemr. depositories up and at first if would not go...Then when it did...pain city:( But I fell to sleep a few good hours for I felt so weak....once I awoke....it didn't burn as much..so I guess it helped. Yea I thought at one moment I was going to have to go to the hospital. Glad I didn't- I hate hospitals. I hope me posting will not make others shy away from the liver flush...But If It was because of hemr. I would not want others to feel what I did. But I can see you didn't have them and you burned also. Did you mix 3 cups of grapefruit with the E. salts? Maybe I should of used water? Thanks for Sharing Shelley. I will remember the honey:)
- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... ocean
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- Re: My first liver flush-plus need s... Kizer
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This is a reply to # 429,725Hi Tracey, Yes I feel better today, after I slept most of the day:) I have being drinking alot of water, felt I was dehydrated. I have had much energy this evening. And spent it outside doing odd jobs in the yard. My headache is gone. I will look into the other Liver Flush and Ptree's links. I do want to continue my Liver Flushes later. The burning has subsided some.....just a sore feeling now. Yes the flush(besides the burning) made a believer out of me!:) I even got my Boyfriend to do it. He had less (7 stones) and was a good sport. Was amazed at all the food comer. on TV.. Doubt he will do it again. He takes med. for diabetes, and high col and high blood pressure. He feels since just 7 he has no more. He may take the Bentonite and psyllium when it arrives. So this is something I will look into for him, also. Maybe when he sees a big difference in my health he will be so convinced he will look more into it.
I am going to try your fav. juice to juice tomorrow, Thanks. I have being talking about this to my family...my brother seems to be interested. Others not. Thanks for listening and sharing. A Brighter day, Kizer Oh and I shy away from salt now:)Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 429,778That is cool that your boyfriend did it with you! Right on! My boyfriend SAYS he will...but never does. One day...
Do you know that Liver Flushes lower cholesterol? yup. Some people don't get *any* stones on their first flush....I bet your boyfriend has more in there! But you're right...when he sees you radiating Health he'll probably jump on the bandwagon! There is no reason why he has to live with high cholesterol and high blood pressure...nope.
Lots of my friends and family got interested in the cleanses too - you should hear our stories over dinner! eeeek.
I'll look for your posts when you start taking the b&p...
See you soon!
Tracey - oh yeah... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,778And, I forgot...but Stonehedge, after his no- Epsom Salt flush, drinks a mug of hot water upon rising. Then drinks a glass of prune juice every half an hour up to 4 cups. He says this works for him - he ends up with lots of bm's and out the stones come!! I'm thinking you should scrap the ES and do everything as usual....but take prune juice in the morning.
Oh...and enjoy the yummy juice...mmmm mmmm!
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Hi. It was excited that he did the liver cleanse with me. He can be so funny! I want to see his col. and blood Sugar lowered...I do believe in beating this diabetes. He has the same as my uncle I just lost Jan of this year. My uncle had it all his life...since I can remember. And later it messed his art. in his heart up and his heart. I don't want to see him this way ever. Right after the cleanse he cooked eggs and cheese with other things in it. :(
I try to make sure we eat right.....but he still adds. I know he can do it. He is a big meat eater.....and loves food ( don't we all :) but I told him he can do it. I was hoping for a better outcome for him to convenced him so. Just I need to make sure he can handle it.....I don't want him to go into diabetic shock or something.
Stonehedge took the olive oil/grapefruit also? Prune juice huh? Gosh sounds so much better than Epsom Salts !:) I will really look into this one.....anything other than E. salts. So is this without food also? I want to do it right. How long can one take the liver flush...I read- one day....then wait two weeks then do another. But I thought I read somewhere one person did so three days. Not sure I may have read wrong. When doing The Master Cleanse with Seasalt s- I wonder if Seasalt s will do the same:(
I did not drink any extra water with the liver flush..could I have?
Thanks for sharing, It is strange thou, I never thought I would be sharing stuff like bm on line or to my boyfriend....but it all makes so much sense. And I am glad I found this site....and to you, Shelley and Ocean- Thanks for sharing. This means alot!! A Brighter Day!:) Kizer- Re: oh yeah... Tracey Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,784Hi Kizer..yup, just look for Stonehedge's name then inside his post click on 'see all of Stonehedge's messages'. You'll see how his Liver Flushes go, without taking the Epsom Salts . He's done a series of 10 so far...gettin' out lotsa stones! Also...he will make you laugh!! (best medicine)
He does the Clarkstyle Liver Flush, but just eliminates the Epsom Salts . At night instead of the Epsom Salt water drinks you could just drink a glass of apple juice at the proscribed times (fills you up and is good at dissolving stones). Then in the morning, start with the warm water, then 4 glasses of prune juice taken at 1/2 hour intervals. Many people dont' use the Epsom Salts and still get out big stones...
Then, at least, you'll know whether the burning is because of the epsom salts...or if it's just nasty biley watery poo that burns because of fissures, hem's etc...
You can flush every 2 to 3 weeks...this gives the stones time to move forward and get read to be shoved outta there! People do flushes all in a row only if they're in gallbladder pain.
'salt on the wound'...I bet the Seasalt water thing might burn also...hmmmmm...
You should make sure you are well hydrated the day before and the day of the liver flush...but dont' drink water after you're on the 'schedule'.
Brighter Days Kizer!
Tracey- Hi :) Tracey Kizer
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Hi Thanks for your time Tracey, You have being so kind. :) I will look up stonehedge and click the see all, you think I would of saw that:) And can use some good laughs. My boyfriend told a friend at work who is interested in the liver cleanse. I am making him a print of it. Maybe this will get My boyfriend to do it a gain. ( You know, lets see who can get more stones out! :) Just joking....) What ever works huh?:) Funny how he didn't mention how much I got out.????? Says he forgot---forgot , that many? Anyways I feel better for it, I remember it, and I will do another flush real soon....and get more out and get even more better! Okay I feel better now it is off my chest.......don't know just why this eats at me....I am not ashamed of my stones..:) Okay I must be crazy, or sleepy one.....
Yea it is a good idea to try it stonehedge's way and see if it is the Epsom Salts . Then I will know if I need to just take smaller doses. Or get that area taken care of. I just hoped it would go way on its own. It is a wonder if the salts didn't do the job. I think I can handle every few weeks anyways...several days would be exhausting. guess if you must you must. Which way do you liver clease.....meaning which cleanse do you take. Thanks for listening while I jabber on and on.......Take care...Aa brighter day:) Kizer- Re: Hi :) Tracey Kizer
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This is a reply to # 429,920Hi Again......You are so right.....stonehedge is one who will make you laugh.:) And I did:) On the 6th cleanse he wrote about:)
He also had great Ideas also. water with lemons and organic olive oil. Water with lemons has went well for me in the past. Prune juice is so sweet, but way better than any salts. You mention the EC 3 day apple fast. Did you like that fast, how did it go? Thanks again Tracey. I think it is time to say goodnite.......It is 3:50 am. Until next time...ZZZZZZZZZZ:) off to get some shuteye.- Re: Hi :) Kizer Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,921Wow, you're up late! It's only 1:11am where I am...
Yup, isn't Stonehedge a rib-tickler?? ....and innovative, too!
Oh yeah, you asked about the EC Apple Fast and I loved it! Well, let me think properly...it was easy as pie to do...just get hungry, cut an apple into quarters, core it and eat it. Had about 8 a day. One day maybe 9. Drank lots of water. All of that was fine...but both PTree and I found that our shoulders got SO crazily tight...and I had a headache for about 36 hours it seemed...very light & bearable, but there. We both felt that it was pretty powerful detoxifying - and it happened so quickly...right away. Then my Liver Flush went sooo well because I didn't feel at all nauseous. phew. My 3rd made me feel ill (well, I did throw up in the morning)...so I was a bit worried. But after the apple fast, my body felt so clean and empty and strong...I felt ready for the Liver Flush and it went super well. Only I didn't get a helluva lot of stones out! Maybe 16 or so. Plump pea size...but I've never got hundreds out in one go like some people...woah. Did you see Spock's last load? And that was only from one bm! He had more he just flushed down...heehee...now I'M rambling...not quite bedtime yet...
*I think the 'who-gets-more-stones-out race' is a good idea!
Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,922Hi Tracey, yea I know I am working on the late nighters... but since the liver flush..I seem to wake up early no matter. I think the apples fast seems easy, and since I love them......I think I will try them:) One day:) maybe next time I flush.
Yea I had some great laughs reading stonehedge's posts. And spoke seem to be doing great with his flushes ....think I will read his next......maybe I will get some more ideas on flushing. Ever heard of the potato diet? Eat nothing but potatos for two days. It is sometimes recommended to flush excess fluid, and the toxins and waste products that fluid may contain, from the body and help purify the blood. Simultaneously, the alkaline substances in the potato bind to uric acid deposits and remove them from the body. Can also relieve gout and arthritis. Eat one large potato with skin five times a day for two days. Drink plenty of water./ Also to promote healthy intestines ......drinking potato water can help cleanse your intestines.....to prepare it, wash and dice the potato(large). steep it overnight in 1 cup of water to which you've added a pinch of Seasalt . Strain and drink the water every morning on an empty stomach. Repeat for several weeks. It also reduces the amount of acid in the gastrointestinal system.......I got the Complete garden of Natural Healing in mail....I thought it was worth posting. I am baking my bake pot. as I post:) I think I am going to try it. Guess anything healthy is worth a try.
But so both at seperate times. My stuff( Bentonite and p. Will arrive on the 4th. So figure I will try this. Well guess this is long enough. A Brighter day:) Kizer. Take care Tracey!- Re: It's me again:) Tracey Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,981Hi Kizer...well that is pretty interesting about the potato diet and potato water! neat. I DO love potatoes! ha.
Let me know if you do the apple fast...and remember to get organic apples if you try it. If you can't get organic apples you're supposed to peel the skins. But org is best because it's best to eat the peel too!
I'll be looking for your name...
Tracey
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This is a reply to # 429,723You can also cut back on the amount of Epsom Salts . Different people react differently to them. You could cut the amount you use by half next time and see how things go.
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Hi and Thanks, I think this is good advice:) Guess I should of started with small doses anyway, I thought it had to be exactly like theirs. But I will go small next time...not with just the liver flush. And see how my body reacts. Thanks Sphinx. A Brighter day, Kizer
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