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Hi I have been thinking for a long time that I want to get my fillings removed and feel that I am getting close to doing this although it will have to be bit by bit has I do not have a lot of money. I am wondering if anyone out there has any testimonials of how this has helped them with their health? Also I am really looking for someone in the Uk maybe who I could phone or email who has been throught this. Hopefully this would give me some support whilst going through this. Thank You Moonie- Re: Some Advice... Please!! boronia
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Hi Moonie,
I'm in the UK but at a different stage to you in terms of mercury detox. I had my Amalgams removed 5 yrs ago and now going through the process of chelation using Andy Cutler's protocol (www.noamalgam.com). I recommend you get his book Amalgam Illness. I think it's going to take at a year at the bare minimum to fully detox so can't give you a testimonial yet! I have "chronic fatigue syndrome" btw.
http://www.amalgam.ukgo.com/ukdent.htm
You must take supplements to help guard against potential toxic effects of mercury released during Amalgam removal (antioxidants like vit C(esp), vit E, vit A (though can be a problem for some people), selenium, essential fatty acids (omega 3 fish oils) B vits, mins esp zinc, magnesium). Liver support (eg milk thistle), adrenal and thyroid support. Charcoal maybe useful too.
I would suggest you get a hair analysis done through either....
http://www.iwdl.net/home.htm
They use Doctors Data in the US which is the lab most recommended for assessing mineral and toxic metal status.
OR Mineral Check (01622 630044) who send off to Trace Elements Inc in the US.
Use the groups below to help interpret the results. There may be people on these lists at the same stage as you.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adult-metal-chelation/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/?yguid...
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=638
You can email me too.
Take care,
Anne
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- Re: Some Advice... Please!! wintergreen
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MoreThis is a reply to # 36,622Anne, how are you doing yourself? I know you were having problems with the DMSA, and then trying to chelate on ALA alone.
My own chelation is going well, but tortuously slow. I'm now trying to make sense of the world of adrenal hormones, and I'll probably be starting Isocort shortly.
Anyway, I hope everything is well with you. :-)- Re: Some Advice... Please!! boronia
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This is a reply to # 36,623Hi Wintergreen! ;-)
Glad to hear things are going well for you! I've been meaning to give an update on the Cutler forum but not really been with it. As with you, it's going to be a long drawn out process for me too. What doses are you on at the moment?
I took a chance and went back to using DMSA in my 3rd round and found I was ok with it, no more headaches which was lucky and just as well as you can't get DMPS in the UK and I'm beginning to think maybe even ALA is too strong for me. I'm still only on 12.5mg ALA a dose and haven't increased that since starting chelation.
I had a break from chelation for a month or so as even though I was only on low doses I think I overdid it in terms of too long rounds and not taking long enough breaks. I was experiencing quite a lot of emotional instability...you know that feeling like you're going mental and should be incarcerated kind of feeling! I think I'm fairly sensitive due to lots of brain mercury which makes sense given my symptoms and history eg having a DMSA challenge. I also forgot I took a supp containing ALA for about a year a couple of years ago so I'm sure that didn't help one bit!
I felt I needed stronger thyroid support so started on Armour about a month ago which has helped in some ways but in general I've been feeling much more hypothyroid, again with mental/emotional instability, inability to think and VERY fatigued, very poor stress response. Big signs of low cortisol and/or low ferritin which prevent you from getting the most from the thyroid hormones. Like you I've been thinking of maybe taking adrenal hormones but up to now I've held out and just stuck with glandulars plus ashwagandha, B5 etc.
Anyway out of desperation I decided to do another round a few days ago which I finished today. So just a 3 dayer on both ALA and DMSA. Feeling MUCH better energy wise, and somewhat better mentally, certainly much more stable, less cracking up! But still feel kind of emotionally flat and just weird in the head so I'm still wondering if I should stick to just DMSA for a few rounds.
I've heard good things about Isocort, I think it's just finding which adrenal supp suits you. Let us know how you get on with that. Have you done any more flushes? I'm still pondering over whether to do one.
Anyway this whole experience again tells you just how careful we need to be and how important it is to get the right supplemental support in place.
Sorry for the epic post!
Anne
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- Re: Some Advice... Please!! wintergreen
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This is a reply to # 36,624Hi Anne,
That's great that you can take DMSA now. I had felt bad for your situation and your earlier comments that DMPS was unavailable in the UK.
I am currently doing 16.7 mg of both ALA and DMSA. I'm hoping to switch up to 30 mg of ALA and 25 mg of DMSA in the next couple of months, which will obviate the need for my cutting pills, and get rid of any subtle effects from less than perfect divisions.
I don't know about your situation, but I have come to the conclusion that lack of proper adrenal support is the missing cornerstone in all the health work I've been doing over the past 18 months. The chelation might be the most important long-term thing, but getting the adrenals together seems like the right move for my current situation. So I'm going to try Isocort, and then add in some Nature-Throid (or whatever that Armour substitute is). I have some pretty odd symptoms, like a hyper-sensitivity to iodine, and I'm wondering if my body is keeping down my thyroid to go easy on my adrenals.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll be posting less on Curezone, as I'm going more into a learning phase than a helping one, and this site really doesn't have anything like the NaturalThyroidHormone group on Yahoo. I wish it did, as I hate the Yahoo Groups setup. And I really am not facing any problems with the Cutler protocol itself. I have been on ALA for a little over 6 months, and on DMSA for nearly 9 months. It has all gone mostly like clockwork. I'd have a hard time going into depth on benefits, but I never feel as healthy this time of year, so that would mask any improvement. Strange, but the most solid thing I notice that confirms this is doing something is the fact that I have to go slow on increasing ALA. I'm taking miniscule amounts spread out over time, while there are people out there popping 300 mg pills of this stuff on a daily basis. I feel better mentally, but that could be due to some other factors, since life in general is going pretty well. Overally, I do feel it is working, but it is tortuously slow. Which I guess is what I expected.
Regarding the flushes: I did one, felt positive, then got sick about a week later. Maybe had nothing to do with it, but the thing is that I never really get sick anymore, as I know how to take action by this point so as to almost always prevent colds. I don't think I'll do anymore.
Great to hear from you, and please keep us posted. :-)
All the best,
wintergreen- Re: Some Advice... Please!! boronia
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This is a reply to # 36,625Thanks WG, I've been a member of that group for a while so I have access to that info.
Yes glandular support is the key for a lot of us and definitely in my case. Mercury is so hard on the glands. I have an appt with a doc in a few weeks. She seems fairly clued up in adrenal issues so may get some saliva testing done with her.
I seem to be sensitive to Iodine too and get very odd thyroid related symptoms. You may have read them already but posts #98095 and #97013 (in the yahoo thyroid group) are interesting. Iodine sensitivitiy can be related to autoimmune attack which presumably chelation will resolve.
Yes I can't believe people can tolerate such high doses of ALA or DMSA!! The amounts that some people take would do me in. Maybe once on optimal glandular support, tolerating higher doses will be easier.
Thanks for the feedback over the flushes.
I'll post a periodic update on the Cutler forum. Keep us informed as to what's happening with you too. Take care :-)
Anne
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This is a reply to # 36,631Great links, Anne, thanks! No, I hadn't seen them before, and am very glad you showed them to me.
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This is a reply to # 36,624Anne, here are some very good resources on thyroid and adrenal treatments.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/files/- Re:Thanks ...Have You tried Maca for... mooney
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This is a reply to # 36,629Thank you both for your kind words and advice, I will e.mail shortly, if thats Ok. I felt a bit dispondent though cos you both still seem to be having a hard time health wise and having to take so many products. I know that even though having my mercury may not6 chance things over night I guess I would really hope for some kind of improvements and I have read about people noticing instent improvement in their health.
It was really interesting what you were both saying about your adrenal and thyroid and I am wondering if you have heared of the herb Maca or tried it. I took it for about a month because I felt that some of my problems could be grounded in these areas. I stopped it because it seemed to make my endometriosis worse, I think it would diffinatly be worth giving it ago though if you have problems in this area. If you run a search you can get loads of info about it's relationship to the stuff you have been talking about and the beauty is that it supports both the adrenal and the thyroid.
Once again thank you...Moonie- Re:Thanks ...Have You tried Maca for... wintergreen
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Hi Moonie,
Thanks for your feedback. I have actually tried maca, forskohlin, and guggulsterones, and of course licorice for adrenals. I haven't gotten much from any of them, except possibly the licorice, which makes a soothing tea.
I take a large number of products due partly to the stress of chelation and partly to experiment. My health is actually quite good, but I am getting down to some of my core issues when it comes to endocrine problems.
Re chelation, I think that I will have to do it for 3 years based on my initial response to use of ALA, so I am not behind in that sense.
I think most of the instant cures you will hear about with mercury come from the removal of the metal in the mouth. Some people are very sensitive to those disruptions in their energy field, and getting rid of the Amalgams gives an immediate boost. That was my dentist's situation when she had her own Amalgams removed. - Re:Thanks ...Have You tried Maca for... boronia
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This is a reply to # 36,632Hi Moonie,
I understand you feeling despondent but don't compare yourself with me, WG or anyone else as we're all different. Some people do have dramatic improvements overnight.
I didnt notice a significant difference either way when I got my fillings out, nothing got noticeably better or worse though I'd had adrenal and thyroid problems for years, esp adrenally. About 12-18mths after Amalgam removal, I crashed due to lack of appropriate supplemental support and delaying chelation. It's for this reason that it's going to take me long time to fully chelate. There's no reason why this should be the case for you. Depends on what health problems you have, how compromised your liver, adrenals etc are and whether you take the right supplements to support yourself.
Most people need to take lots of supps during chelation as its very hard on the body. For endocrine support I now take glandulars and armour thyroid aswell as vits, mins and EFAs. I've avoided maca as I'm a bit prone to oestrogen dominance. It's recommended for menopausal type symptoms eg hot flashes in which case its bound to have oestrogenic properties. I think, or at least according to Julia Chang at sensiblehealth.com endometriosis is a sign of oestrogen dominance so that probably explains why your endo got worse. She has a page on endo you might want to read. Addressing digestion/bowel issues and liver /cleansing support should help a lot.
Email me if you feel the need to. Take care! :-)
Anne
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