I also agree that to change the Seventh Day Sabbath to Sunday is something the scriptures absolutely give no warrant to do.
Really? Since when? Have I finally found something over which we actually disagree? Someone bring out the flags right now please. Sorry veks, but you're on the wrong side of this argument. Both the NT and early church fathers most emphatically attest to the change to Sunday as the traditional day of Christian worship.
Maybe your lack of Greek background & knowledge has made you vulnerable to SDA, JW, WWCoG and Jewish 'logic'. I could, for example, cite a lot more evidence than Rev. 1:10, but that reference alone is enough to sink all sabbatarian arguments without trace. For they all come to grief on the hard fact that Κυριακή ημέρα is tautologically and eponymously both the Lord's Day and the first (or 8th) day of the week, and has been the Gk for Sunday since its earliest recorded usage in the most ancient extant authorities, including the NT itself. Ask any Gk what day is Κυριακή ημέρα (pronounced kiriaki imera), and without fail, they will tell you 'Sunday' whilst simultaneously wondering 'what's this dingbat's problem?'
Please don't make me pull out my Arndt/Gingrich/Bauer to prove my point, but I will if I hafta, and I can promise you, you won't survive the onslaught. I really would hate to bash you about the head with the biggest tome in my library.
But if you are now feeling a little bruised, don't forget I still love you, despite this minor spat over nothing very much.
Except that I don't regard Sunday above any other day. This is not a question of investing Sunday with some legalistic significance that is analogous to the Sabbath of the OT. Ours is called the New Covenant for a reason, but even under the Old Covenant Jesus made it clear that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
The point about Sunday worship is that it represents one of many evidences of the passing away of the old order. As someone once remarked, Jesus was physically dead during the Sabbath, which was therefore buried with Him in the grave. Only cultists deny that Jesus' resurrection took place on a Sunday - His day; the day belonging to Him.
1 & 3 are virtually identical. The 4th is also my position. Which begs the ?'n: what exactly are we arguing over? I don't think you can slip a Rizla paper between us. This seems to be a debate about semantics rather than any real substance, so I'm gonna bail out before I hafta throw AGB at ya.
Drats, just when I thought I had a real beef with you.
I was only kiddin' about the flags, etc. I'm not looking for an argument for its own sake. If I were, I'd be constantly on trapezoid's case. As it is, I'm happy to let him stew in his own bile.
Yes, I think we were mainly at cross purposes. We agree that Sunday is not the Sabbath v.2.0. I believe, for example, that Eric Liddell (Chariots of Fire) basically got it wrong when he refused to run on a Sunday coz he thought to do so would be incompatible with his Christian faith and dishonouring his Saviour. That is the legalistic interpretation that I believe Jesus nailed to the cross.
Where I took issue with you was your apparent claim that there was no Biblical evidence for the switch from Saturday to Sunday as the main day of public Christian worship. Did I misunderestimate what you were saying?