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This is a reply to # 2,397,750Finaly something where we can agree upon . Eve ate the apple and god said that man would rule over woman because of this ... all that feminist crap belongs under the wrath of god ,with woman votings right it all went to hell, or did god take his word back ?
Genesis 3
16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
and he shall rule over thee.
Yeah that does not mean you shall elect a woman president who shall rule over you
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This is a reply to # 2,397,764why so dramatic? we agree on a lot of things.
Isaiah 3:12
As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.- Edit: Re: who believes this nonsense... rainy.commenting
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
In the Septuagint that verse does not mention children or women. It appears to have been changed to keep women suppressed.
The Septuagint was translated from Hebrew to Greek centuries before the Masoretes added their system of vowel points to the Hebrew text. The Septuagint’s version of Isaiah 3:12a (translated into English) reads: “O my people, your extractors strip you, and extortioners rule over you.”
For more information see:
http://margmowczko.com/isaiah-3_12-women-leaders/
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- Re: who believes this nonsense? Sjaak2017
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This is a reply to # 2,397,838Lol the word of god is changed humz so god is not omniscience at all ?
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Faggotry feminine man foreign people invading the lands its all labeled under the wrath of god not blessing ... but yeah its probably all edited and its happening for no good reasons .. its totally not the wrath of god
30Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her
49The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: 51And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed:
61Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63
1 Corinthians 6:9 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Deuteronomy 22:5 - The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Romans 1:26 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
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This is a reply to # 2,397,895see, god declared the end from the beginning. eve was perfect for adam only to be ravaged by another man.
Luke 19:21
for I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
who reaps where he has not sown? god reaps wickedness where he has not sown. adam reaped adultery where he had not sown. did jesus reap whre he had not sown? or was he simply paying a debt? - Re: who believes this nonsense? rainy.commenting
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This is a reply to # 2,397,895Yes, God is omniscient, but we live in a fallen evil world. God did not translate the scriptures from the original God-breathed text into all the versions that we have today. Men did that. Some of those men had agendas so they twisted the original language to suit their agendas. The biggest agenda was to control people, especially women. God did not change scripture. Men did. This is serious evil done by men, not God.
Revelation 22:18-19: (NIV)
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,397,913If the word is corrupted how would anyone even read revelations ??? its nonsense the bible is the word of god and the king james is the best one
from the textus receptus.
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This is a reply to # 2,397,928The King James Bible is a good version, but it is not God-breathed like they are preaching. The translators did a good job for most of it, but you must not be aware that King James had several rules that the translators had to follow. Those rules had to take priority over what God actually said in the original language. Where there are contradictions we need to study this stuff out. Some do not believe in that sort of study. They just believe that the King James version is God-breathed totally. Not every video on this subject gives truthful information. Some people have agendas. Some people are brainwashed. Some people are deceived. We need to study and seek God for truth. King James vowed to silence women. He didn't care what God said about them. The translators had to do what he said.
I've heard several videos like the one you linked. I clicked on it to see, but will not take time to listen. I pretty much know what they will say already. I may have even seen this one before.
Most of the Bible got translated correctly, but we need to be aware of the parts that did not due to the evil deeds of men.
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This is a reply to # 2,397,954I'm going to have to agree with sjaak on this one rainy. Corrupted? The word of God? He would never allow that to happen. All anyone has to do is read all the bible and realize that God has blessed woman as well as men to serve God in like manner.
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
The true word of God is not corrupted. He will some how preserve His true word, but we live in a fallen world with evil men. Yes, there are numerous verses that show that God has blessed woman as well as men to serve God in like manner, but many in main stream Christianity do not see those verses. They just see the ones that have been mistranslated, thus all the false teachings. I see contradictions which means there must be deeper study to get to the truth.
Many think that God would not let a lot of evil that has happen in this world happen. That is their excuse for not believing that there is a God. Why did God even allow the fall of man? He gave man free choice and free will. God will not take free will away from us. We can choose to be evil and many have.
If what your saying is true, why would God even allow some of the cults to write their own Bibles? Look at how corrupt the JW Bible is. Why would God allow that to happen to that Bible and not the King James Version? Does God choose which versions He will allow men to mistranslate? That doesn't make sense. Men choose when they want to do evil. People who live in the fallen world pay the consequences for the evil done.- Re: who believes this nonsense? rainy.commenting
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This is a reply to # 2,397,974I just want to add that when there is a contradiction between the original language manuscripts and any version, including the King James, I will go with the trusted manuscripts. I believe God is preserving His word through manuscripts of His original God-breathed word.
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This is a reply to # 2,397,954Take Psalms 68:11 for example. The original says that there are a numerous host/throng of women who are proclaiming the word of the Lord, but see what King James says. "The Lord gave the word; great was the company of those that proclaimed it. KJ21
Why the original does not include men I do not know because I'm sure men will/are proclaiming His word too. Maybe it is because God knew about how women would be suppressed. This verse gives me hope that main stream Christianity will come to the truth of this some day and things will change, but the past is so sad.
I copied the following from the Bible Gateway site. You can see for yourself how many versions got it right. None of the King James versions got it right. Keep in mind that some versions use the King James version to help them translate. They may have even translated some versions directly from it. You will never get me to believe that the King James versions are perfect and totally God-breathed. I've studied too much to be duped on that one.
Psalms 68:11 in several versions to compare:
KJ21 The Lord gave the word; great was the company of those that proclaimed it.
ASV The Lord giveth the word: The women that publish the tidings are a great host.
AMP The Lord gives the command [to take Canaan]; The women who proclaim the good news are a great host (army);
AMPC The Lord gives the word [of power]; the women who bear and publish [the news] are a great host.
BRG The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.
CSB The Lord gave the command; a great company of women brought the good news:
CEB My Lord gives the command— many messengers are bringing good news:
CJB Your flock settled in it; in your goodness, God, you provided for the poor.
CEV You gave the command, and a chorus of women told what had happened:
DARBY The Lord gives the word: great the host of the publishers.
DRA And I covered my soul in fasting: and it was made a reproach to me.
ERV My Lord gave the command, and many people went to tell the good news:
EHV The Lord provided the message. The women who proclaimed it were a great army:
ESV The Lord gives the word; the women who announce the news are a great host:
ESVUK The Lord gives the word; the women who announce the news are a great host:
EXB The Lord gave the command, and a great ·army [or company of women] told the news:
GNV The Lord gave matter to the women to tell of the great army.
GW The Lord gives instructions. The women who announce the good news are a large army.
GNT The Lord gave the command, and many women carried the news:
HCSB The Lord gave the command; a great company of women brought the good news:
ICB The Lord gave the command. And a great army told the news:
ISV The Lord issues a command. Numerous are the women who announce the news:
JUB The Lord shall give a word; great shall be the host of the evangelists thereof.
KJV The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.
AKJV The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.
LEB The Lord gives the word. Great is the company of women who announce:
TLB The Lord speaks. The enemy flees. The women at home cry out the happy news: “The armies that came to destroy us have fled!”
Now all the women of Israel are dividing the booty. See them sparkle with jewels of silver and gold, covered all over as
wings cover doves!
MSG The Lord gave the word; thousands called out the good news: “Kings of the armies are on the run, on the run!” While
housewives, safe and sound back home, divide up the plunder, the plunder of Canaanite silver and gold. On that day that
that Shaddai scattered the kings, snow fell on Black Mountain.
MEV The Lord gave the word; great was the company of women who proclaimed it:
NOG Adonay gives instructions. The women who announce the good news are a large army.
NABRE Your creatures dwelt in it; you will establish it in your goodness for the poor, O God.
NASB The Lord gives the command; The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host:
NCV The Lord gave the command, and a great army told the news:
NET The Lord speaks; many, many women spread the good news.
NIRV The Lord gives the message. The women who make it known are a huge group.
NIV The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng:
NIVUK The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng:
NKJV The Lord gave the word; Great was the company of those who proclaimed it:
NLV The Lord gives the Word. And the women who tell the good news are many.
NLT The Lord gives the word, and a great army brings the good news.
NRSV The Lord gives the command; great is the company of those who bore the tidings:
NRSVA The Lord gives the command; great is the company of those who bore the tidings:
NRSVACE The Lord gives the command; great is the company of those who bore the tidings:
NRSVCE The Lord gives the command; great is the company of those who bore the tidings:
OJB Adonoi gave the word; rav (great) was the tzava (company, army) of the mevaserot (heralds, those that published it, the lady
evangelists).
TPT God Almighty declares the word of the gospel with power, and the warring women of Zion deliver its message:
RSV The Lord gives the command; great is the host of those who bore the tidings:
RSVCE The Lord gives the command; great is the host of those who bore the tidings:
TLV Your community settled in it. In Your goodness, O God, You provided for the poor.
VOICE The Lord gives the word; there are very many women ready to tell the good news:
WEB The Lord announced the word. The ones who proclaim it are a great company.
WYC The Lord shall give a word; to them that preach the gospel with much virtue. (The Lord gave the word; and many women
preached this good news.)
YLT The Lord doth give the saying, The female proclaimers [are] a numerous host.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%2068:11
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"Some of those men had agendas so they twisted the original language to suit their agendas. "
Yeah their agenda was that they where very devoted to god and they did their very best to translate
Translation committees
First Westminster Company, translated Genesis to 2 Kings:
Lancelot Andrewes, John Overall, Hadrian à Saravia, Richard Clarke, John Layfield, Robert Tighe, Francis Burleigh, Geoffrey King, Richard Thomson, William Bedwell;
First Cambridge Company, translated 1 Chronicles to the Song of Solomon:
Edward Lively, John Richardson, Lawrence Chaderton, Francis Dillingham, Roger Andrewes, Thomas Harrison, Robert Spaulding, Andrew Bing;
First Oxford Company, translated Isaiah to Malachi:
John Harding, John Rainolds (or Reynolds), Thomas Holland, Richard Kilby, Miles Smith, Richard Brett, Daniel Fairclough, William Thorne;[56]
Second Oxford Company, translated the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, and the Book of Revelation:
Thomas Ravis, George Abbot, Richard Eedes, Giles Tomson, Sir Henry Savile, John Peryn, Ralph Ravens, John Harmar, John Aglionby, Leonard Hutten;
Second Westminster Company, translated the Epistles:
William Barlow, John Spenser, Roger Fenton, Ralph Hutchinson, William Dakins, Michael Rabbet, Thomas Sanderson (who probably had already become Archdeacon of Rochester);
Second Cambridge Company, translated the Apocrypha:
John Duport, William Branthwaite, Jeremiah Radcliffe, Samuel Ward, Andrew Downes, John Bois, Robert Ward, Thomas Bilson, Richard Bancroft.[57]
These where the best scholars at that time and they took years to translate nothing is corrupted
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but I just had to correct you
Trapper is capable of correction? I musta missed that memo too.
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This is a reply to # 2,397,838noted.
how hard would it have been for most of what you and the rest of your cohorts to respond to me in that manner? what? its just been beneath you or you didnt feel like it or what? - Re: Edit: Re: who believes this nons... rainy.commenting
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This is a reply to # 2,397,838Please read my edit to my above post to clarify and correct any possible errors. I should have originally said the Septuagint instead of the original language as I'm not sure about the original, but the Septuagint is a translation of the original.
Here is a link to my post for which I am referring: https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2397838#i
"Whatever the original word may have been, it is clear that God was saying that Judah would be led, or bullied, by incompetent leaders."
Please read this article for further clarification:
http://margmowczko.com/isaiah-3_12-women-leaders/
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snakes dont talk, either.the serpent is eating dirt because he is no longer expressed fully. only remnants of his genes exist. he must live in the rbag of dirt of another human being.
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Do you even read my post ? you have the talking donkey as an example with angels talking through animals
adam was the first no monkey man
1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
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GOOGLE search on ELLS
https://www.google.com/search?q=3000+ells+to+feet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
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This is a reply to # 2,397,434lolol another student who sees the chapter marks are arbitrary. better alert the mindless loquat. maybe someday it will sink in that he dont know squat about scripture.
catholic, huh? they come so close so often.
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