I'm glad I saw this. I wanted to comment on your take on edema. Yes, for some I'm sure it did have something to do with sodium to potassium ratios and for some dehydration...but for others it was due to sensitivity to carbohydrates. Once you get rid of certain or most carbs out of the diet, you can do the salt loads for the Iodine protocol without very much problem. Some just can't do both at the same time without dangerous swelling around different parts of the body. For some it will even accumulate around the heart/chest area. Of course early on no one was aware of this and couldn't advise beginners with this problem.
ah, but the carb problem is a sodium to potassium problem. carbs help dump potassium. you have no idea, and i mean you have absolutely none of an idea of how deficient you are in potassium. it is truly the number one problem in health today. it is chronic. it is long term. and it is a clinical yet undiagnosed/misdiagnosed disease that is ubiquitous. people dont sweat enough these days to be sodium deficient. if there are no underlying issuse, salt pushes are ok. the reason people do much better on KI is the potassium content. hear me now and believe me later.
The Iodine forum was being attacked much like ML's was, as well had plenty of people needing more personalized help. You stayed grumpy with people as well. Didn't tolerate anyone not getting better when it was suppose to work. So I think you understand such things better because the people are harping at you as well to fix them because they didn't know what to do. Working through brain fog was probably the most difficult thing to get through.
no, thats just a lack of insight on your part, comman as that may be. everyone that needed it and desired it got all the help they needed. when were were flat-assed trolled i gave no quarter. why should i? they were there for only one purpose and it wasnt good.
When I didn't have the answers, I kept searching. I did learn to endure. So I did try and do deep thinking on the issue. It just took certain turns of events to point me the right direction to find the answers for myself.
that part you did right. apply that attitude to spiritual matters. you know, sometimes you have to start from the beginning. there is no shame in that and it pleases god when we humble ourselves like that. you need a refresher on the things that matter (pardon the pun). or, as a friend of mine says, there are things of man and things of father.. you can guess which on really matters.
I'm sure you know how ML got his start right? He studied under Dr. Reams. Dr. Reams was the famous expert.
not really. you know me, i dont like gurus and tryt o keep them to a minimum. the lord leads me and i tryt o keep that focus. thats me. he guides others according to their needs, not mine, so we are all different. he had me read everything MH ever wrote. and i got the school of natural healing handbook and the dr mom cd's. thanks for the info.
How am I off if you say that carbs dump potassium? By not eating carbs you have stopped dumping potassium and so you retain them. Eating good quality fresh vegetables or fruits that are high in potassium should do the job. Why not just each low carb with high potassium foods and the problem is solved? Just because you think the person is still too low in potassium? I don't know trapper, I will consider it but that just doesn't ring true to me, but I will consider it. What are you judging low potassium by? Symptoms of some kind? Testing?
as i said, what i personally go by makes no difference to you or someone else. understanding your own Na:K picture is what counts. this is very similar to knowing ones own halogen picture. lets look at mainstream symptoms of low K.
http://www.webmd.boots.com/a-to-z-guides/low-potassium-hypokalaemia
Symptoms of low potassium are usually mild. At times the effects of low potassium can be vague. There may be more than one symptom involving the gastrointestinal (GI) tract, kidneys, muscles, heart and nerves.
but you cant apply this info mindlessly. as i said, bloating and edema can be a lack of potassium or a lack of sodium. it takes both to move water in and out of a cell. and low blood pressure - that can be caused by too much potassium as well as too little.
look at the symptoms of potassium toxicity:
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/minerals/potassium
Abnormally elevated serum potassium concentrations are referred to as hyperkalemia. Hyperkalemia occurs when potassium intake exceeds the capacity of the kidneys to eliminate it. Acute or chronic renal (kidney) failure, the use of potassium-sparing diuretics, and insufficient aldosterone secretion (hypoaldosteronism) may result in the accumulation of excess potassium due to decreased urinary potassium excretion. Oral doses greater than 18 grams taken at one time in individuals not accustomed to high intakes may lead to severe hyperkalemia, even in those with normal kidney function (4). Hyperkalemia may also result from a shift of intracellular potassium into the circulation, which may occur with the rupture of red blood cells (hemolysis) or tissue damage (e.g., trauma or severe burns). Symptoms of hyperkalemia may include tingling of the hands and feet, muscular weakness, and temporary paralysis. The most serious complication of hyperkalemia is the development of an abnormal heart rhythm (cardiac arrhythmia), which can lead to cardiac arrest (38). The Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine did not set a tolerable upper intake level (UL) for potassium because adverse effects from high dietary intakes of potassium have not been reported in healthy individuals (4). See Drug interactions for a discussion of the medications that increase the risk of hyperkalemia.
you will notice that many of the symptoms of hypo and hyper K are the same. that link is a good primer on K and especially useful is the illustration on the sodium potassium pump:

read the info just before the illustration. its easy to hang on to sodium. its really hard to hang on to potassium. that, if anything i could tell you, is the key to controlling this yourself. sodium seems to be self regulated by taste. potassium must be forced. i find that salting with KCl with all the other salt available in food today is what i need to do. if i worked out more or sweated more or both, then that might change. but if i use table salt at a restaurant im asking for bloating, especially with lots of carbs, the worse carbs the worse it gets. grains being the worst.
I commented on the Iodine forum because I was one of those that didn't get help from you. You were being bombarded by too many people at once and you thought people like me were trolls because I supported the idea of having an alternative forum so we could discuss our problems in. When all I was doing was trying to put two and two together for myself with help from others. However, you may have looked at that idea much like I do about keeping these forums mainstream christianity. You don't want to see the protocol get watered down any more than I want to see christianity get watered down.
well, your perception that the experience was overwhelming may have some merit. so what was your problem with that? i did what i could and did so with principles and priorities which god and my fellow man first. i have no shame at all for what i did. the lord hates a proud heart so i dwell very little on the teams accomplishments there. it was definitely a team and group effort. i appreciated outside help but others on my team were more territorial. i leave that kind of behaviour to dogs pissing on trees.
That being said, it really wasn't meant to be that I learn from you at that time. Any answer you would have given me would have not been the right path that God wanted me to travel. So all in all it worked out in the end. But I felt like that is why you understood why ML was struggling with people, because you struggled as well. You may not remember it that way, but since I was involved, I'm adding what I saw personally.
i take people at face value as much as they allow. you have experience this time and again. you seem to appreciate it without actually realizing what i am doing. but love is deliberate, and i am rarely led by my feelings about anything. i have my own friends and lovers, i dont need to use or abuse others for my own purposes.
As far as spiritually starting over. It doesn't hurt to rethink if there are places to improve on but I have come too far to back-track and think I'm going to improve on something I know that I will never believe differently on. Think me dumb if you wish, but I have no clue what you believe in. That is how confusing your entrance here has caused me to be. You are the one that really needs to start over and post only things you really believe and not things you don't (unless you explain that you don't) so we can have decent discussions. I'm very much into end time discussion and now due to the variations of beliefs that have joined I don't think me posting what I believe will get very far without extremely heavy debate that will just crush the life out of it. You add the complication of the Jews to the mix. I have never said that some Jews are not to blame for some of our problems in this world. I choose not to blame them because then we lump all of them together, when not all are guilty, just like we sometimes do with the muslims and/or christians. I find it best just to pray for them and keep reaching out with the truth of Jesus Christ, so they can come out of the darkness. That's my game plan, because it's God's game plan.
jesus mentioned the jews so they must be mentioned.
the only problem with the jews is recognizing what they are doing. god can handle them as far as judgement and so forth. but they do harm society and they do so with that society's permission, or at least the permission/cooperation of the ruling class in that society. mostly they infiltrate the ruling class with themselves or proxies. they are liars and murderers. what jesus said, not me. you can believe what you want.
Now that's the spiritual side of it all, but I do also agree that the swamp needs to be drained in so many areas. But even that has to be carefully done because otherwise it can become the witch trials all over again. Getting people motivated is one thing, but getting them into a frenzy is another. Discernment can fly out the window and innocent people may get hurt.
we are past the point of no return. the train has left the station. the slow train is coming no matter what we think. etc, etc, etc.
If people don't believe that any prophecies related to revelations and other parts of scripture are expected to come to past then I have a real hard time seeing how anyone would be able to prepare for what is coming. Yes, Jesus is returning, and some of us believe that, but not all of us believe that there is more prophecy yet to be fulfilled. I'm just watching to see if anything fits what the bible says is going to happened.
whats wrong with a personal relationship with god instead of looking for vicarious experiences with him through the world?
jesus is the word. he said to follow him. he is the word made flesh. the word robed in flesh. so to follow him all one has to do is walk out the scriptures. take up your cross, yuor implement of death of the flesh, and get the same experiences he has. that way you share the same point of view. you become a son of god. walk out the scriptures. do them. do them all.
I would not have realized that you didn't know more about ML/Moreless because you are friends with Grz, who in my opinion is one person who "got it" better than most. Grz could probably teach for ML if he had the desire to do so. Now as far as your comment about MH/The Barefoot Herbalist. If his stuff helps you, that is good. I don't think there is just one thing that helps people, but I choose to promote what God showed me. MH has a few ideas that are very similar to what ML use to say would work. Is that where you got your thoughts on higher potassium from?
unless you are growing your own food you must supplement. even then you cant escape the environment and must supplement.
I look at it like this. The journey is not over for any of us. God may take us all sorts of directions before it's all over. I know you are not a fan of the whole genetics idea but if not for that I would not have learned some very important things that I needed to get under my belt before I could move forward. So I give God the credit for everything that happens that is good. Not that my fall and broken arm were good, my haste caused that, but it lead me to the next steps in my study to understanding my body better. So I see it as a good thing in the long run and part of my journey with God.
your platitudes are coming from a very weak position indeed as far as i am concerned.












