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even if it happens just once, in the case of jesus, it still happened and it still is foundational to the entire belief system, right?- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 2,378,324Herod was NOT a 'worshiper' of a creator/deity of PEACE/righteousness (who knows?...he might have been a worshiper of satan or Egyptian gods), but child sacrifice is certainly not "Christian".
I haven't been on this forum too much of late because I felt that my writing is too radical and rejected.....maybe I'm wrong.- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,378,332if youre not just saying "praise jesus" over and over and over again then youre too radical for this forum.
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... rainy.12
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Trapper: if youre not just saying "praise jesus" over and over and over again then youre too radical for this forum.
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
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Rainy: The key word in Matthew 6:7 is VAIN. I bet I could tell Jesus that I love Him repeatedly using much repetition without it being vain.
See how the enemy uses scripture to keep us from truth. Or, is that too radical for you?
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This is a reply to # 2,378,503This is an example of beautiful repetition that is not vain for me. It may be to some. It depends on your state of mind and heart.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,503depends on where your hearts at.
you worship paul, dont you?
1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from all appearance of evil.- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... rainy.12
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This is a reply to # 2,378,539Unfortunately, what trapper said is the general condition of most worshipers today
The worshiping 'gang' or 'club' is not what Jesus had in mind (it's similar to the MONEYCHANGERS) and THAT is what has to change today (IF you want it to, I myself don't care about your soul).
A person's SOUL is a very personal thing.....YOU should be the only person on earth that you let care for it (NOBODY ELSE!!).....
Would you walk into a church and ask a priest OR ANYONE "What color do you think my underwear should be?". You can't be your own man (SOUL)....if you do that (if you do, you will be a 'PERSON'/iderntity).
The things that I write are going to have the same effect as when this was said....
Act 17:6 "These men who have turned the world upside down
I never make any effort to CONVINCE anyone of anything (because I DON'T CARE,.....I'm SELFISH).
So, ignore what I write if you want, ridicule and mock if you wish (God is not mocked, neither am I)....everyone will get to their destination regardless....if I can help you avoid mistakes and you want my help, perhaps I can help you understand better, but if you prefer not to "endure sound doctrine", it's your decision.
The Lord gives good advice...
..."Do not refuse him who is speaking...becauwse if you do not believe himn who warns from earth...".
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How is being with a group of believers the same as the moneychangers? Because of giving? Because we want a comfortable place to sit and worship and you have to have funds to have that? Because of selling things like books, videos, or crafts to be able to function easily and to give helps?
As long as there is no falseness or thievery involved, and used well, is there fault in this?
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This is a reply to # 2,378,550It seems that you insist on honoring The Lord PHYSICALLY (at 'the mountain') instead of the Jerusalem of your soul and mind (John 4:23)
When I used the word GANG, it might have SEEMED HARSH (BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTUAL VIOLENCE USED), BUT IT IS NOT JUST THE TEACHERS/scholars and clergy who have misled the brethren for centuries, it is also those who LOVE to sit in the pews and achieve fame and glory by cheering on the teachers, scholars and clergy.
All who SINCERELY wish to "draw near" to my lord have been viciously misled by your cooperation and encouragement.
It is not my lord whom you injure, it is those who I grew up with (do not expect me to be COMPLETELY indifferent about that).
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This is a reply to # 2,378,554
Cooperation and Encouragement? The only cooperation and encouragement in regards to your group that I have tried to show is that you should seek Jesus, just like I tell everyone. I have made this very clear that I don't see Jesus the way you do. If I say that I have a relationship with vektek and you tell me you have a similar relationship with vektek, I do expect some variations due to how well you know her. But if I can't even recognize by your description of her and the facts that you share about her personally do not match...what am I suppose to think? Are we friends with the same person? If you read the same bible that I do and nothing seems to match what I believe. What am I suppose to think? Something is off somewhere. You seem to think you know why I'm off and I seem to think I know why you are off. How does this work? Do we have to be forced together to make this work? I am perfectly fine if you have your own denomination and I have mine and let God work on each person as He sees fit.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,615"your group"
you cant help yourself, can you? its always about "us and them" with you. oh no, youre not created. oh no, youre not human. oh no, youre not engaging in evil thoughts. oh no, the scriptures dont apply to you anymore. oh no, youre jesus' favorite. oh no.....- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... refreshed
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This is a reply to # 2,378,788I wasn't offended by the word "gang", why would you be offended by the word "group"? Matter of fact I saw it as the same word. Just questioning the reason to not worship or live in the manner that we do.
Yes, there is a huge difference in whom we are speaking of as our Lord and spoken of in the bible. However, like Rainy, I pray that you become the christian that you were meant to be. I never give up hope in that.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,550if you have to ask the question then you really dont want the answer.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,549here, here.
people do not understand worship. the purest form of worship is imitation. paul told his followers to imitate him as he imitated christ.
if it can be said of paul, who no thinks was anything but a man, then it can be said of any man.
my recent textbook purchase makes it clear that it was paul who established christianity as a religion with all of its trappings and trimmings. its paulianity, without any doubt.
so i have been noticing and saying little sippets of the same thing for year and always plowed up a chorus of denial when i i dare mentioned it. the spiritual leaders in my life could not have been more ignorant if they had tried, and tried hard.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,378,598Paul was much more than just the person Jesus told to carry His name to the Gentiles, Paul was active in a philisophical way about PEACEFUL living (the same as SOCRATES).
Paul spoke to the Athenians at their "AEROPAGUS" in Acts 17 without mentioning Jesus (he knew he didn't have to....because Socrates taught them well how to be righteous and peaceful???).
Paul as philosopher...(listed as #3 at listverse).
Paul spoke against SECTAS PERDITIONIS.
http://listverse.com/2011/02/19/top-10-greatest-philosophers-in-history/
http://listverse.com/2017/07/20/top-10-gospels-you-wont-find-in-the-bible/
https://listverse.com/2014/08/27/10-rejected-sects-of-christianity/
http://www.drbo.org/drl/chapter/68002.htm
Verse #1 says SECTAS PERDITIONIS.- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,378,772
paul not only has the problem of being a smart guy who sounds like a crazy guy to dumb people, some dumb people think they know what he meant when they dont.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,775It is becoming more common that people are troubled about Paul's words and activities. There seems so much going on at the time (oh the humanity!) that it seems we will never get the full story.
Since devotion is about a relationship with the eternal God (the Jews only knew creator God, did Paul???), my attitude is "WHO IS PAUL?.
POLITICS always existed (people need something to fight about)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Antioch (east/west schism)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jerusalem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers
Before Paul was an apostle, he persecuted the DISCIPLES OF JESUS (there were no "Christians" at the time).
Saul persecuted the MEMBERS OF THE WAY (Acts 9:2).
They were NOT "followers" of anything, they were MEMBERS OF ("BELONGING TO") Jesus's body.
The english translation of the TAO is THE WAY.
Verse is RSV.
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This is a reply to # 2,378,781paul is a prime example of many things.
one is to be not lukewarm. anyone with the skills to be consistently evil already has all the skills to be consistently good. they merely must repent.
another is his conversion - to go from one extreme to another and still be himself.
yet another is there is no sin that cannot be forgiven.
my point here has not been about paul. its been about mindless worship of a man and the doctrines of men. that coupled with an unwillingness to truly repent. why repent when youre right? when youre understanding is perfect? but wheres the proof of that? stubbornness and rebellion? some proof.- Re: is human sacrifice a part of chr... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 2,378,786You are right that Paul is equated with Jesus (at least SOMEWHAT) in devotion.
There are even religious institutions ("churches") that are "PAULINE" (whatever that means).
The only hero is JESUS the Triune God (Father, begotten Son and eternal Spirit).....NO one else is to be revered....PERIOD!!.
...but, the darkness has infiltrated the church and so many participants have embraced the darkness because the darkness of pride and money suits them (uhhh, you didn't expect me to have anything complimentary to say about this disgusting scorn of my lord, did you?).
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This is a reply to # 2,380,616people dont understand the spirit. they ascribe spirit to material things, including their own flesh. what fools.
the american indian was closer to god. he understood the great spirit. he understood we all had individual spirits. they named themselves accordign to the spirits they had. they understood the spirits of animals. they knew that a fox acted like a fox because it had the spirit of a fox in it. and the wolf. and the bear. and the owl and the eagle, etc.
and why did the native american understand better? because he was not encumbered with the accoutrements of urbanic society. it was the cainites that invented cities. they are a work of satan from the beginning. but you cant tell the mush-heads who live in them about it. same reason men of god spent long periods in the wilderness living austerely, fasting, meditating and just plain being alone with god and his creation. the mush-heads would explode in five minutes. they will never survive eternity. they WANT to burn up.
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This is a reply to # 2,380,625It is speculated that the American Indian is the tribe of Gad. It has been known since the 1970's that the American Indian has Hebrew DNA.
The son of God walked on earth in a manner so as to identify with humanity (He is the collective soul of true humanity...natural man......the "son of" MAN).
After God finished creation, He said "It is GOOD" (it is ALL good.
In the Garden of Eden, the decision that Adam made ensured that humanity would understand differently than God intended. Adam's decision ensured that humanity would know (have the knowledge) that only SOME things are GOOD (the knowledge....of good AND evil).
Before the fall, man was meant to live in perfection with the creator. The purpose of scripture is so that God can re-establish us as each who we truly are (a living soul) and to also RESTORE us to that primal state of NATURAL MAN.
1Pe 5:10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, establish, and strengthen you.
Verse is from RSV.
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