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I bought some ALA last night.. it was on my list of supplements to try... I don't even remember why.
So, I'm searching it here and seeing that people use it to chelate heavy metals.... great!
I guess thats a good thing and that was on my to-do list (eventually) so I figured I'd give it a go... but i was a little scared since I'm reading that some people have a hard time with 1 mg... and mine are 200mg :/
I took 3- 200mg caps today and don't feel too bad. I did have a slight headache, but also read that it can cause blood Sugar to drop and maybe cause a headache until the body adjusts. It feels like a very mild motion sickness headache, which I normaly associate as a toxin headachd. I thought I'd try eating in case it was a blood Sugar crash but that didn't take the headache away. Its very mild in the back of my head and not enough to where it affects my ability to function.
I don't even know if i have heavy metals but assuming so because everyone has them to some degree, i live in america lol and had mercury fillings... the last were removed and replaced in 2004 (by a regular dentist, not a biological dentist)
I guess my question is, should i really be taking 3 of the 200mg caps every day? Or should i somehow try to split it into smaller doses? They are capsules with powder inside. Should I be taking anything else incase i do have a load of metals to remove? And how are the metals excreted once they are bound? Urine, stool, sweat? All 3?
It's now or never I guess.. I've already started so I can't turn back now.
Thank you!!!
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Research the Andy Cutler protocol, it is the safest and the best for metals.
You have to take ALA every 3 hours including at night time. Also there are supporting nutrients you need to take and foods to avoid.
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This is a reply to # 2,209,016Ughh maybe I should stop it then.
I forget why I even wrote it down to get in the first place. To use as an antioxidant with myother supplements.. but I didn't intend on chelating with it.
I didn't even know it was used for that until I looked it up here to see what good results people were having with it.
I don't have symptoms of mercury or heavy metal poison, but it would be extremely dumb of me to think i didn't have any in my body because almost the entire world's population does to some degree. It makes me wonder why they even sell it like that then?? Considering the average person who would be buying it would have mercury in them.
I did want to chelate mercury (vaccines that were forced on my kids) but not until summer break next year when they aren't in school.
Well, this sucks.
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Google AdvertisementGoogle AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 2,209,023Why not learn more before jumping in.
At the moment, I'd increase antioxidant consumption, including vitamin C, E and selenium. more on that if requested.
The mice in the Gregus study that received ALA excreted more Hg than control mice but also ended up with *more* Hg in the brain and organs. Andrew Cutler, PhD chemistry, comments here.
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/74605.html
Obviously most people don't have a terrible reaction to taking ALA, especially not in the short term. However in the heavy metal detox groups there are lots of people who are sensitive to it. The theory is that since it is a dithiol chelator of mercury and other heavy metals (HMs), it kicks up the HMs as a part of the detox process. Those who are not good excreters of HMs and who have a HM problem are likely to be vulnerable.
Notice the two SH/thiol groups (mercury magnets) positioned nicely to better grab a HM.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/lastructure.html
These are some of the adverse reaction reports I've collected over my 4+ yrs in the detox groups.
Inappropriate use of ALA. Sometimes it takes a while for the effects of inappropriate use of chelators to be obvious to adults, let alone autistic kids. These are some examples from adults, some of whom actually had gains in some areas initially but then realized damage was being done, usually to the brain as Hg levels likely increased.
-300mg ALA 2x/day while I still had amalgams....from really-sick-but-functioning to completely disabled, in just 6 months http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24221
- KellyB. "...took 50 mg of ALA once per day for months...while I had Amalgams in, during the removal process, and even after they were removed....I have suffered tremendously because of this. My health deteriorated rapidly - MCS, extreme food intolerances , depression, anxiety, etc."
- 100 mg ALA in a multivitamin for 10 days. "...caused me to feel anxious, weak, fatigue. My head is held captive
to these heavy metals. I want my own brain back so I can think and function..."
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/86406
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/86214
- 20mg ALA in the weeks after Amalgam removal. "...has given me the worst severe burning brain for 2 days straight, along with extreme burning muscle pain and weakness all over."
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/96458
-R-Lipoate w/ hidden Amalgam //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2027011
...I took close to 200 different powerful herbs, and nutraceuticals including R-lipoate. It was at the end of that 5 month period, that I begin to get severe jaw pain around the rotten tooth ( the one that I did not know had an Amalgam in it). It was around this time that I essentially had chronic fatigue and anterograde amnesia set in. It was a profound, rapid, failure of my health, I went from ...going to college full time, to just being debilitated.
- ALA 600 mg 3x a day + NAC 1200mg x 2 a day. "... have severe ringing in my ears, brain fog, funny taste in mouth , headaches, blurred vision, memory problems and having difficulty functioning...stopped 8 days ago ...but it did not go away-- also head aches..." http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/306306
-200mg in B Complex w/ amalgam present. "I had daily headaches.... I had the weirdest tingling sensation in my face going EXACTLY from the tooth ... up into my cheekbone."
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/113243
-ALA 300mg. Teen in psych hospital w/ suicidal thoughts. Cutler comments on how the inappropriate use might be causing or contributing to the problem. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/294111
-300 mg ALA, 2x/day. "...improvements in peripheral neuropathy ...then developed worse neurological symptoms…” http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/42684
Cutler's audio interview where he explains some of the basics--#96 here
http://zentertainment.org/podcasts.html
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This is a reply to # 2,209,241Yiiiiiiikes!
Thanks so much for the info!
I think the ala needs to go on a shelf until I'm prepared to deal with the potential problems. I have no clue what amount of HMs I have.. I guess the only way to know is to have a hair test?
Considering that the entire world's population has HMs... I'm very surprised they risk selling it as an antioxidant.
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This is a reply to # 2,209,253Mainstream medicine ignores heavy metals unless there was an accident at a chem factory.
Then there are those who cover it up.
http://www.naturalnews.com/046720_thimerosal_autism_CDC_whistleblower.html
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This is a reply to # 2,209,449most people have no idea... they keep it quiet because people would have a fit if they knew what was being pumped into the air by factories and such.
i went and had some tests done at the doctor's and they are saying that my HM levels are lower than what they'd normally expect to find. i want to ask for numbers so i can compare.
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That might mean you did not have recent exposure but not tell you much about old exposures. It might suggest that Hms are not the problem. However check out Boyd Haley, former chair of the chem dept at the U of KY on this issue. He says that those who are very sick from Hg have levels of it in hair and nail clipping tests than healthy people.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=boyd+haley+%2B+alzhimers
He explains that this is a retention toxicity. People that don't get rid of it at a normal rate will have problematic levels in parts of the body that hold on rather tightly---brain, thyroid, adrenals, certain hormone receptors, bone (lead), etc. We don't have good ways to test those levels--short of an autopsy!
Therefore we need to look for the effects of HM toxicity, including symptom clusters. A. Cutler has a chapter in his book, Amalgam Illness on that.
Urine porphrins is an example of a test that looks for the effects of HMs, but like most tests, it is not as good for exposures that ended a long time ago, especially in people who are now eating right and taking antioxidants.
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