: It's also about not being manipulated because someone thinks they have you in their pocket.

e: again this is your own imagination at work here refreshed. I have never in the slightest thought that you were in my pocket any more than you thought i was in yours. the idea is purely childish and ridiculous and most likely stems from something uncrucified in your flesh. Hopefully you will take it to the Lord in prayer and get it all squared away.

r: I may agree with some things that you say but not all. In the beginning I was all ears to hear you out but your definition of Pharisee doesn't line up exactly like mine. Now you think poorly of my spiritual condition because of it?

e: Since so much seems to be riding on this, what is my definition of pharisee and what is yours?

r: As far as Hunter speaking his mind...I have no problem with him telling you what he did...just for the record... and with God as my witness.

e: praise the Lord, the truth comes out! With that said, i am concerned for you in your inability to discern right from wrong and to act upon it accordingly. I am concerned that in your complacency and stubbornness, you have slipped so far that you have aligned yourself with unholiness and that you no longer have eyes to see the truth about this or to see the difference between good and evil. I think you are dangerously close to being a cheerleader for flesh behavior and unrepentant sin, supporting it while opposing the proper response to it.

Deep intimacy with God and abundant time in His beautiful presence every day is so, so essential. It washes us clean and heals us and continually re-aligns us with His will, keeping our heart soft and open before Him, helping us to want only to please and delight Him in all that we do. Have you not been getting enough of this?

r: put your silver platter away Ed...God's got this covered.

e: this is spoken like a true calvinist. God's children have no part in His work, right refreshed? We should allow people to sin wildly in a christian forum and not rebuke them because "God's got it covered" and He wouldn't use His children for this purpose?... and we should then challenge those who do rebuke the sinner? Seems like you are hearing God very clearly refreshed. No problems here. Amen!



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