f***inghell man! Find some faith will ya.....
Honestly, have you even done anything other than moan?!
Do what everyones doing atm, seems to be working wonders....
And yannoe don't make ec your excuse for not getting girls. I've met the most amazing girls on earth this year, with f***ed up lips.... But I just learnt to overlook it. Your mind can only cure you. Just be positive and be proactive about getting healed.. Not go f***ing nuts every couple of days.

Yannoe, try to make a connection with god, might just help ya....

Pm me if you ever need to talk about suin...

This is the same girl you said rejected you for your lips, but now she likes you or accepts your lips?

There are things that can be applied to lips to decrease burning feeling.

Your next attempt should be getting sunburnt. Go to the beach and just lay there for a few hours.

Let me know what happens. It might just help you. It helped me. But honestly man it doesn't seem like you're even reading the posts on this forum, because we've come really far with this...maybe you should try what we're doing instead.

You say you are not depressed, but only a severely depressed person would contemplate suicide. Listen to the doctors, and take the meds. There is something in Depression meds that can help with the lip healing process (I forgot the technical terms). Recently, someone posted an article with that information.

Bradbutter there are people that will love and accept you for who you are. I'm not sure what the rest of the people on this forum choose to do. Some choose not to date, I do have a boyfriend, we do kiss. We been going out before EC. I got the flu one day, after Antibiotics , then chapped lips, I actually remember borrowing his old chapstick. Sometimes I wonder maybe I caught a weird bug from it. Some days I have other theories.
When kissing, I cant be rough or overly agressive. I miss that aspect. Some days we don't kiss if it hurts or my lips are tender, but sometimes kissing him actually makes my lips feel better, and look better for days. Except no biting or super sloppy. It sucks. One time skin came off my mouth and it was so gross but we started laughing. Total giggles, because WTF?
Some people will take it totally in stride because they want to be with with you. I have told him this is my new normal, at least for now. I drink tea thru a straw and I cut my burger with a knife and fork. I have cried. I have told him he doesn't need some chick with a weird esoteric lip thing and I would not fault him for leaving but he said to me, "that's such a small part of who you are." He brings me straws, brings me vitamins, he asks how I'm doing and feeling. He says he doesnt care that I eat different. You don't have to deprive yourself of love, especially when we need it the most. Let the girl you like make her own choice, maybe she would be willing to walk this this with you. Maybe you can find a way to make the relationship work even with EC. Maybe I'm lucky we were already together but he has stayed. I'm so blessed to have found someone who accepts me even with this thing. I love him totally and when I'm better I will kiss him like the old days. If he one day decides he has had enough, of me or this, that is his choice too. Iooking back I'm glad we stayed together.

Two failed attempts, and then go on and post that on the internet, GET help dude.

I had a friend like this, and its f***ing PATHETIC !

If you are unable to bear EC, you can manually peel off your lips and live. For this, before going to bed (after brushing) apply a layer of vaseline over your lips. In the morning after brushing your teeth, take a ear cotton bud and peel off the extra skin. It is negligibly painful and my lips look normal throughout the day.
But i do not know about the long term effects of it. But many people with EC have been doing it and hopefully they are doing well.

Wow, killing yourself because of ugly lips is pretty darn stupid. I used to be depressed from my lips, too. But these days I have so many seriously ill family members who are doing their best just to stay alive and healthy that my little lip issue just doesn't seem that big a deal anymore. I also have a cousin who has the crusting/peeling/blistering thing we have, except it's all over his entire face and body. Ironically the only place on him that doesn't crust over is his lips. Our EC kinda pales in comparison.

And if a girl doesn't like you just for your lips, then she's shallow and you need to move on and find someone who'll accept you completely. There are plenty of wonderful people out there who will look beneath the surface. I know this because I have a wonderful boyfriend who was able to see me as beautiful despite my lips and stay with me through my four years of EC. We are even getting married this year. :) So hang in there. As long as you can see beyond your lips, other people will, too.

And one tip for not leaving slimy goo on other people when you kiss is just don't put any goo on your lips. Keep it dry and clip the detached skin off. Frenching might be hard, but hey, I think it's overrated anyways. :P

You've had EC for 13 years? Well, I have had it for soon to be 19 years now my friend. Suffered embarrassments, humiliations, lack of a social life, etc. I was extremely depressed as well. However, I managed to fight it all off naturally.

My lower lip has like 4 scars from all the damn stupid biopsies all those wicked doctors did to me.

This is something I wouldn't even wish on a worst enemy-if I had one.

At least I am now seeing a doctor who actually found some irregular activity with my spleen. A prior post on this forum did mention a link between the lips and the spleen so, only time will tell.

In the same way I overcame my Depression by facing it head on; I too need to face this shit head on. The amount of embarrassment I have to face on a daily basis at work can be overwhelming. I see people licking their lips like mad when they talk to me because it is their body language towards it, and I pick it up like a hound dog on a fox's scent.

It is just heart stopping embarrassment, and I hate how "plasticky," and hard my lips feel just about all the time. I also fu**ing DESPISE that white slime that comes with this condition. I wake up every damn morning with it.

My advice to you is to hang in there. You don't know if things will be better in the afterlife if you kill yourself.

By the way, longterm, if you read this, the doctor I am currently seeing is a popular doctor from El Salvador. I gave him a copy of the article you posted a link to a while back ago. He found it interesting and might have some connections in that hospital that might be able to dig up some additional info on this crazy condition. He has also been praised for his work by American Medical Institutions so, I have a good feeling about him. I feel that if he cures me, then he will cure all of you because I have had a really bad case of EC for like I said, going on close to 19 years now.

My lips aren't all too bad right now but, it has been interfering with my life for far too long. It is about time I settled this because I just cannot take this horrid condition with me to the grave.

Hi Brad - sorry to hear what you are going through. My son and I got into a fight one time when he first had EC because he was missing so much school - and he said if it didnt get better he would probably kill himself - I dont think he was seriout - but it was pretty scary - made me realize how much he was affected by this and I took what he was goimg through a lot more seriously. I've tried to get him to go to counseling but he doesnt think it will help, but I think sometimes just having someone else to talk to helps - even if its a stranger. Its funny, the counselor that evaluated him when he made the suicide threat- her son had EC from Accutane - I wanted him to see her for counseling becuase she didn't think it was "all in his head" but we couldn't go to her because she did the evaluation.