Okay serious question please Newport... 
albalover
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Okay for about 4 months I have lost my appetite. My fingernails are blue half way. ( no circulation) now for 2 months I have had kidney pain and white clouds over my thumbs, index and middle. Every time I pee they get bigger?
I have been taking the borax for 1 year and half. With out b2 or b3!! So I have a build up of boron/ borax. According to my hair test boron is wry high! Plus I haven't taken b2.
So the last month after have some intense freeze nearly shock moments. So cold and scary.
I have been doing intense cardio too and not so tense. So depletion of minerals.
I wanted to take b2 to remove BORON.
Last 2 weeks I overdosed on b2 900mg with some b3. Then last week I had ONE NIGHT some 8grams of vitamin b3 niacinmide. Went to sleep and woke up nervous and thought I was going to die, since then the last 1 weeks I had chest tighness, neck pain, lost appetite. Massive heart awareness causing my not to sleep.
So this week I went 3 days with out sleep. And two days with out sleep.
I have tired scared been hospitalized as cause I have this awareness of my heart beat and been going crazy.
I am really scared.
I was thinking heart damage from removing to much homocysteine from he high dose b2. Or kidney disease from the borax which explains high dose boron on hair test level. Or massive vitamin b3 deficiency. Or maybe anemia?
I just want to sleep. I am going crazy and very scared. Blood Test normal.
I thought it was high IRON. but iron tests so that my iron is good. B2 helps iron
So pLease help. I need sleep:( been crying heaps too:(
- Also what makes me sleep is Valium. albalover
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- My symptoms are albalover
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This is a reply to # 1,958,099Anemia: concentrate on heart beat awareness.
Between Ferrum met and Ferrum phos homeopathy
And opium or gelsium yellow jasmine?
Thank you - Re: Also what makes me sleep is Vali... trapper/kcmo
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Google AdvertisementGoogle AdvertisementGoogle AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,958,099
hes gonna nail ya on the benzos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepinesDrug Name Common Brand Names* Time to Peak (Onset of action in hours) Elimination Half-Life (h)† [active metabolite] Therapeutic use Approximate Equivalent Dose‡ Alprazolam Helex, Xanax, Xanor, Onax, Alprox, Restyl, Tafil, Paxal 1-2 6–12 hours anxiolytic 0.5 mg Bretazenil[9] N/A ? 2.5 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant 0.5 mg Bromazepam Lectopam, Lexotanil, Lexotan, Bromam 1-3 10–20 hours anxiolytic 3-4 mg Brotizolam Lendormin, Dormex, Sintonal, Noctilan 0.5-2 4–5 hours hypnotic 0.25 mg Chlordiazepoxide Librium, Risolid, Elenium 1.5-4 5–30 hours [36–200 hours] anxiolytic 25 mg Cinolazepam Gerodorm 0.5-2 9 hours hypnotic 40 mg Clonazepam Rivotril, Klonopin, Iktorivil, Paxam 1-4 18–50 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant .25-.5 mg Clorazepate Tranxene, Tranxilium Variable 36–100 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant 15 mg Clotiazepam Veratran, Clozan, Rize 1-3 6-18 hours anxiolytic 5-10 mg Cloxazolam Sepazon, Olcadil 2-5 (?) 18–50 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant 1 mg Delorazepam Dadumir 1-2 60–140 hours anxiolytic 1 mg Diazepam Antenex, Apaurin, Apzepam, Apozepam, Hexalid, Pax, Stesolid, Stedon, Valium, Vival, Valaxona 1-1.5 20–100 hours [36-200] anxiolytic, anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant 5 mg Estazolam ProSom 1-5 10–24 hours hypnotic 1–2 mg Etizolam Etilaam, Pasaden, Depas 1-2 6 hours anxiolytic, hypnotic 1 mg Flunitrazepam Rohypnol, Fluscand, Flunipam, Ronal, Rohydorm, 0.5-3 18–26 hours [36–200 hours] hypnotic 1 mg Flurazepam Dalmadorm, Dalmane 1-1.5 40–250 hours hypnotic 15–30 mg Flutoprazepam Restas 0.5-9 60–90 hours hypnotic, anticonvulsant 2–3 mg Halazepam Paxipam 1-3 30–100 hours anxiolytic 20–40 mg Ketazolam Anxon 2.5-3 30–100 hours [36-200] anxiolytic 15–30 mg Loprazolam Dormonoct 0.5-4 6–12 hours hypnotic 1–2 mg Lorazepam Ativan, Lorenin, Temesta, Tavor, Lorabenz 2-4 10–20 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant 1 mg Lormetazepam Loramet, Noctamid, Pronoctan 0.5-2 10–12 hours hypnotic 1–2 mg Medazepam Nobrium ? 36–200 hours anxiolytic 10 mg Midazolam Dormicum, Versed, Hypnovel, Dormonid 0.5-1 3 hours (1.8–6 hours) hypnotic, anticonvulsant 5 –7.5 mg[10] Nimetazepam Erimin 0.5-3 14–30 hours hypnotic 5 mg Nitrazepam Mogadon, Alodorm, Pacisyn, Dumolid, Nitrazadon 0.5-7 15–38 hours hypnotic, anticonvulsant 5 mg Nordazepam Madar, Stilny ? 50–120 hours anxiolytic 10 mg Oxazepam Seresta, Serax, Serenid, Serepax, Sobril, Oxabenz, Oxapax 3-4 4–15 hours anxiolytic 20 mg Phenazepam Phenazepam 1.5-4 60 hours anxiolytic, anticonvulsant 1 mg Pinazepam Domar ? 40–100 hours anxiolytic 20 mg Prazepam Lysanxia, Centrax 2-6 36–200 hours anxiolytic 20 mg Premazepam N/A 2-6 10–13 hours anxiolytic 3.75 mg Quazepam Doral 1-5 39–120 hours hypnotic 20 mg Temazepam Restoril, Normison, Euhypnos, Temaze, Tenox 0.5-3 8–22 hours hypnotic 20 mg Tetrazepam Mylostan 1-3 3–26 hours Skeletal muscle relaxant 100 mg Triazolam Halcion, Rilamir 0.5-2 2 hours hypnotic 0.25 mg - Benzo REDUX Newport
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also see notes in : Psychoanalgysic Detox (SSRI + Benzodiazepine)
Date: 7/26/2011 3:29:42 PM ( 11 mon ago )
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Edit DisallowedVery important, but be careful with Arginine if there is a Herpes Viral load at all.
If there is Hepatic encephalopathy then Mag and Potassium Asparates will make a huge difference as they also do for Fibromyalgia issues.
http://curezone.com/forums/search.asp?q=Hepatic+encephalopathy&action=Fin...
Major causes for this in the brain are lack of Brain cleansing enzymes, Toxoplasmosis, Malaria Cerebral or H.Pylori. Malt will solve the enzyme issue, frqs for the others exist in blog.
Main cause of Hepatic encephalopathy is the use of SSRIs and Benzo drugs:
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1597273
- Benzo REDUX Newport
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- My symptoms are albalover
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- Re: Okay serious question please New... Ginagirl
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,958,097In the wait of NPs answer. Lack of sleep is terrible.
Borax have a short half life in the body, hair tests are frequently wrong. Boron doesnt accumulate in the tissue as eg. fluoride do. Hair tests can show like a high calcium, but it can actually be a deficiency due to utilization problems. They can show low fluoride, as the overload is in your pineal gland or bones.
Stop the boron for 2-3 weeks just to assure yourself that this it isnt the problem. Aluminium is a good antidote (like clays)
Then to the real problem; overdosing vit B; I cant sleep after dosages as you mentioned. My heart race, thought race, I am afraid etc. Stop it!
I can only take low dosage of vit B, but only after a 2 years brake due to this insomnia, high pulse, heart thing similar to yours.
- The lower Bs.. Newport
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,958,161B1-3 (Niacinamide) are all non toxic:
Thiamine
Can't be absorbed in enought quantity to be toxic, but injections can.
benfotiamine is the ONLY way to get enough Thiamine but most would be broke before toxic levels are achieved.
Riboflavin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riboflavin#Toxicity
Niacinamide (B3 version recommended for liver)
This version does NOT have the same liver toxicity shown as niacin, which BTW doesn't have an issue either just pushes the liver phases out of synch.- Re: The lower Bs.. pago
10 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,958,188From the wiki link
"Even when 400 mg/d of riboflavin was given orally to subjects in one study for three months to investigate the efficacy of riboflavin in the prevention of migraine headache, no short-term side effects were reported."
Tried 900mg/d and no side-effects...also your suggestion of 4500mg/d niacinamide had no sideeffects. Both tested for months.
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- The lower Bs.. Newport
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- Re: Okay serious question please Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,958,097Your post makes little sense to me. Stuff like 'removing to much homocysteine' isn't even worth responding to.
Also I see nothing that chelates Mercury from Brain and nothing that would lessen the effects on sleep by Hepatic encephalopathy. See the "Benzo Redux' post for links on that.
Certainly no one sleeps with Amonnia in their brain, but this is nothing new Hulda Clark has a full section on that and the use of L-Ornithine.
- Re: Okay serious question please albalover
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This is a reply to # 1,958,190i just started taking valium to sleep cause i cant sleep.
i have NEVER taken it in my life! only this WEEK to sleep. - What about lost of appetite? albalover
10 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,958,190And since I have been taking borax with out B2 to chelate it for 8months could the borax have lost my appetite or the is it the liver?
Borax is loss of appetite and I have kidney pain too. Blue nails circulation link to overdose borax for 2 long??
What are your thought? Thanks again- Also albalover
10 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,958,361Btw I am sleeping or a earth bed seems to help kidneys.
My liver tetss were normal. I haven't used the the Borax in 3 weeks. But used it non stop without B2 for 8 months
:(- Borax Newport
10 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,958,362First you do realize I always recommended Tri-Boron (including Asparatate) not Borax.
But here is a list from what I call observational medicine. Note the homeos are 1-3x which is nearly mother tincture strength. Also note the Dose suggestion at the bottom where they give dosage for simple Borax not homeo.
http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/b/borx.htm
Now the one diff between a homeo vs a box of borax is purity and electrical charge. The first you can fix by buying better grade borax the second by using techniques from Reverse Alchemy: http://www.vitaliteaccrue.ca/mediawiki/index.php?title=Reverse_Alchemy
- Re: Borax - Antidote Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,958,493Two Antidotes are in the link to the homeo:
I find COFFEA the most interesting. Unroasted Coffee ala SA Wilsons: http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c/coff.htm
The second is simple Chamomile in Tea or Homeo:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Cham
- Re: Borax - Antidote devxtreme
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This is a reply to # 1,958,519consult with a qualified homeopath before antidote any medicine see here for more details homeopathic treatment online homeopathy
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- Re: What about lost of appetite? Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,958,361"Borax is loss of appetite and I have kidney pain too. Blue nails circulation link to overdose borax for 2 long??"
My friend; even if you have overdosed. Borax contain some h2o2 which would cause an improved oxygenation, not less.
Kidney pain can have several causes, so have lost appetite. Like lupus / inflammation. Kidney stones, etc.
I would suggest you post a full list of what you are taking of supplements (and medications). Maybe one can come up with something.
Seems like you are off track.
Ps high B`s cause terrible symptoms in me, no matter what science says. I believe there is a connection to adrenal fatigue, as this started with a big trauma of I had in 2004. When I experience something that trigger this trauma, like an attack or something, I cannot have vit B at all for a few days.
- Re: What about lost of appetite? Newport
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- Re: What about lost of appetite? Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,958,486complexes, type 50, 100 mg. tried different brands. like this; http://www.solgar.com/SolgarProducts/B-Complex-100-Vegetable-Capsules.htm
or this;
http://www.evitamins.com/b-complex-100-solaray-35243
At one point I had to completely stop it (for 2years), all brands, all dosages. Now I can take low dosages like Now foods B12 liquid.- Re: What about lost of appetite? Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,958,564Don't compare that with the lower Bs.
Any requirement above B3 needs a closer look into the methylation cycle or pathogens.
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1958540#i
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- Re: What about lost of appetite? Ginagirl
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- Re: Okay serious question please New... Torilynx
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This is a reply to # 1,958,097albalover,
I'm sure by now you've probably found your answer, but wanted to mention this anyway. Niacin is an antagonist of Potassium. Taking Niacin might have caused pretty bad Potassium deficiency. Signs of Potassium deficiency are exactly what you describe - "chest tighness, neck pain, lost appetite. Massive heart awareness..." as well as kidney issues, poor circulation (feeling cold, cold extremeties), insomnia, irritability, anxiety. I cannot imagine taking 8 grams of Niacin without taking any K (Potassium)! And please, remember, we need Magnesium in order for Potassium to enter a living cell. Hope this helps.
- Also what makes me sleep is Valium. albalover
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