I find your message awefully pathetic Vtool! Firstly you've admitted you do not understand Dehydration in the zapper forum. Now my friend that is one of the very first areas you should learn in health and no one does it better than Dr Fereydoon Batmanghelidj.

Anyone who watches the movie CLOSELY, and LISTENS carefully, will see that he acknowledges CLEANSES and DRINKING PLENTY OF WATER,,, in fact, ONE of the FOUR protocls is DRINKING LOT"s and LOT"S of OZONATED WATER!!! He acknowledges cleansing colon/liver is GOOD, but it SURE WON't CURE a VIRAL BACTERIAL or PARASITICAL based DISEASE ILLNESS or CONDITION :) Wow, I suggest you WATCH THE MOVIE, and TRULY LISTEN and PAY attention before going off with false, and erroneous misinformation on the forums



Firstly I find this extreme nonsense because I watched the 2 hour video and when I read or watch something I pay very close attention. What I find funny is that Beck in this particular lecture/time doesn't even like Ozone and quite frankly wrongly slags it off. Whats funny is later on in his life when he realises he was WRONG he then endorses its use as part of his protocol. Whats funny is that if you study Ozone correctly which I have amongst a host of other health treatments you will find that in order to truely sort out disease with ozone that a small ambient sota type unit is simply not enough even with a protocol like Beck's. You need a high powered Medical grade unit along with doing Ozone Saunas, Ozone Insufflation, Water and if possible Polyatomic Aphersis (oops you probably haven't heard of this). Now when you speak to specialised doctors with Ozone in Germany and U.S they will tell you especially if you have Cancer that Ozone Saunas are a must as well as funneling the spot etc and of course the big Polyatomics etc. Beck was a total moron when it came to Ozone until yet again he had to be put in his place and corrected.



On the subject of Beck being wrong I will yet again remind you that his NONSENSE of Electroporation was proven false. Then again after being corrected by someone truely in the know he then admitted that his device doesn't cause electroporation. You will find devices like Tesla Violet Ray, Multiple Wave Oscillator, Molecular Enhancer, Rife/BARE and possibly Papami all cause electroporation.



None of my information is false my friend, I've studied alternative health deeper than most people and I do not follow nonsense, false science like most. I've been there and tried that with most products and devices and to strict protocols. Infact I've found most of the information presented to actually be harmful, especially supplements and the GI such as leaky gut etc.

I do not sell any equipment, nor do I sell any herbs, period. I am a user of the forums, and a former HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL specifically having been managing both MEDICAL and HEALTH CARE



I do not sell any equipment, products, herbs, waters, supplements either so why you come out with this is beyond me. You call yourself a former health care professional?????? So how come you do not know the basics of DEHYDRATION/HYDRATION which you admitted in the Zapper forum. I hope to god you do not treat people with such lacking wisdom. I do not go around claiming to be anything to do with health care infact to be quite honest I'd rather not because most health care nonsense follows the medical establishment these days and actually harms the body. Again the only people with real knowledge of the body and how it works are Herbalists fullstop and although I disagree with a small amount of what Barefoot has to say, he blisters almost all with his information and after studying hard on his work and new information I've found him and herbalists to dominated REAL health.



Now I've helped many on here with Cancer including Centex being the best one. My information works and people see results quickly because I'm dealing with TRUE whole body protocols which doesn't mean just electric and a couple of other poxy things. I nourish the body with what the body needs and fuels from which is food, water, Salt etc. Lets see a Blood Electrification device, Fscan, Rife, Zapper give someone Vitamin C when they have Scurvy. The only thing anyone of those might do is kill a bacteria, parasite, fungus etc which may reside in the body due to the disease of scurvy. We must remember that parasites, bad bacteria, virus etc ONLY reside and work in a body that is polluted and uncleansed/nourished properly and this was even admitted by the person who came up with the Germ theory itself! Yes sometimes some of these baddies are still within someone highly cleansed and nourished PROPERLY but they are inactive. Now many people think they are looking after their bodies properly when infact they are not. Now tell me how Ozone water, Colloidal Silver, Electrification will also hydrate the body when in dehydration mode? Only water and SALT can do this, so you will be thinking oh what about the ozone water? No it will not hydrate the body because at some point if you keep taking this but do not take any real Himalayan salt then all the salt will be washed from the body and a quicker dehydration will take place with more symptoms. I know this from researching this subject deeply and Batmanghelidjs research also along with physical evidence on myself. Again if someone is suffering from Pellagra how can these devices/products give a person B vitamins etc etc they cannot. Again these devices you boast about are just a SMALL part of a whole body protocol and one in particular part of Beck's protocol is highly dangerous to the body and that is Colloidal Silver.

I am also one who has viral tb, and fighting to eliminate that. I've done the fasts, the cleanses, and herbs... they are SUPER, they are GREAT, but they alone WILL NOT CURE a viral based condition - period, as a rule... maybe there are exceptions to the rule, but it didn't work for me, and viral TB.



You claim you've done FASTS but in the Zapper forum you said you'd fasted for a day haha. A FAST doesn't truely start till really day 3 and again it should be a water fast. Theres NOTHING a water fast of proper length cannot cure and thats been proven for oooo the last 7000 years whilst its been in use possibly more. Viruses etc are nothing to a proper fast and if you had studied properly you would know this oh professional one as you claim haha. Infact I will go ahead and say that FASTING is the MOST POWERFUL health protocol around and far superior to any blood electrification etc of Beck's now remember when fasting the WHOLE body is being cleansed more than anything else can do, including the lymph, blood, tissues everything and more to the point its !!!! FREE !!!! Also if you think by using an Fscan2 or any detection device/test that gives you a positive to a virus etc that by destroying that virus with a Rife type system etc your cured your very much mistaken. Again find out why these viruses, bacteria etc use you as a whole and how they become active and you'll see you need to treat the REAL cause. Just killing the Bacteria etc is simply Medical Mafia following of treating the SYMPTOM but in most cases they and alternative health just spread the problem elsewhere. Also study up on Sterilising the body and how it creates more problems in the long term. So I tell you what you take pasteurised Kombucha and I'll take my homemade UNPASTEURISED Kombucha and lets see which is the healthiest haha.

Beck's research is priceless. It's not the only thing to do for a full health regimen, and cleansing, flushes, detoxs are important, but will NOT ALONE beat a virus, and that is a fact. Beck CURED MANY MANY Aids patients, and the technology he uses and "devices" are Class 2 medical devices in Canada (at least one is), and the other based on U.S. Patented technology (oscillating magnetic feilds).

I can post references and links to these patents. SOTA is one source of the Class 2 Licensed Medical device data. http://www.sotainstruments.com http://www.magpulser.com another, and http://www.perutechnologies.com/





I do no deny Beck's work has its uses and works to a point but the whole issue of real health is a much much bigger issue. Dr Lorraine Day also talks of how all these gadgets amount to nothing because the true way to heal is to cleanse, eat correctly/juice, light exercise, WATER+SALT. Now tell me this have you seen or talked to any of these so called AIDS patients? I doubt it very much. Can you tell use exactly how many of these so called AIDS patients there were? I doubt it very much. Again Viruses etc can be beat just with Fasting if done correctly (meaning more than 1 day haha) and when I say this I mean anything up to 70 days but most times 30 days tops. Lets see a Beck device give you fully cleanse and almost brand new looking arteries within 30 days like just a juice fast let alone the powerful water fast, a beck device simple cannot. You simply haven't studied hard enough on health oh professional one which you claim to be haha. Now again if you've studied hard enough on AIDS you would have found that AIDS comes from many actions simply not a virus and certainly not the non-existant hiv which is pure hogwash. Now again hiv has NEVER been isolated regardless what they claim but if you want to believe in hiv been for real then Peter Duesberg claims that it does but its totally harmless and certainly doesn't cause AIDS. Duesberg also tells the true causes of AIDS the same as MBEKI which are Street Drugs, Medical Drugs (steroids/AZT etc), MALNUTRITION, bad sanitation etc. Now if you can find anyone who comes close to the authority of Peter Duesberg the do so. Again I myself and many high end microbiologists around the world still do not believe in hiv because again it hasn't been isolated and rewards for its isolation have not been demanded or rewarded. Theres plenty of information on the subject and if you read everything properly you will see that what you've been told about hiv/aids and all the nonsense of electric cures are NONSENSE. Now the only way Beck's protocol would help someone with AIDS symptoms would be if they simple have lowered immunity through parasites and dirty blood. It doesn't work by killing hiv virus which miraculously cures the aids haha. Also it takes around 2 years to get back to some form of normality if you've had proper AIDS and in some cases up to 4 years. Now I will go as far as to say that OZONE POLYATOMIC APHERESIS is far superior to Blood Electrification which is far too slow for my likeing. O.P.A has been proven around the world against AIDS symptoms as long as its just through Malnutrition etc and not down to drugs etc. If a person takes blood electrification and takes AZT, Steroids etc then they will still suffer the same problems and eventually die, maybe quicker! This is the same to a point with O.P.A you cannot do the same things as you did and expect to get well because when you realise the true causes of AIDS and how its not a single virus its a lot more difficult and explains why many people fail in treating these victims. Theres Ozone doctors in Africa and in Asia who have been killed, gone into hiding and some protected by state soldiers against western influenced hit teams. You see when people get treated in places like Africa where their only just starting to use KILLER drugs like AZT etc the success rate of Ozone etc is high because again its just parasitic, malnutrition and bad sanitation. Again this shows people the pattern where by disease follows malnutrition, dehydration and pollution. Parasites etc are cleansers of the Earth and when something is dirty, polluted they do their job its that SIMPLE! Many people want you to believe its so complicated and all these devices need to be bought and to have zillions of plasma tubes making pretty colors linked to laptops etc.



So what does that prove just because their classed as medical devices? Its proves nothing!!! So an MRI is a medical device which is proved to cause Cancer and a host of other problems. Mammogram machines are medical devices and they can create Cancer as well as helping spread cancer thats already there. Can't you see how your still trapped into the Medical Mafia way of thinking but this time its from another angle. People have to beware because they think they know it all because their doing what they think is opposite to the Medical Mafia when infact its almost NO different. In order to progress from the Medical Mafia conditioning the easiest way is to progress to supplements/electric devises etc. This is normally the case, then some progress to liver flushing etc but they never go as far as to drop all the pill conditioning etc and realise its all about Food, Water etc. When you learn that the Medical tests are baloony then you realise that what you thought you were doing is meaningless. Now Beck goes on about the PCR tests but when you understand PCR tests like me and some others out there you then laugh because the PCR is utter quackery and based on false science and flawed Mathematics which many mathematicans have laughed at. Also amplifing Genes is nothing to do with individual viruses etc. Lets scare everyone with 30,000 or less viral loads when a pcr test even at 100,000 would at very max equal 1 particle of virus if that. Also like I said its not in individual virus either. I bet your terrified by the nonsense spread by both Medical and Alternative on the Bird Flu. Do you still want to believe that anti-bodies are a sign of illness hahaha. Many things are Patented so damn what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Curezone is largely BASED and PROMOTING the ideas and teaching of Dr. Hulda Clark, and Dr. Richard Shulze, and I've done there cleanses and flushes for MANY years... and they never cured me... I also drank TONS of distilled water, and before that PURIFIED water daily... had a perfect diet, exercised, and so on...



Sorry your wrong because not too many people even talk about Hulda Clark these days and theres only a few like myself who utilise her cleanses but have dumped the pathetic zappers etc. Theres also not much talk on here about Schulze and you'll find the most used and information areas of this forum is Ask Barefoot and a popular forum is the Liver Flush. This site has many other areas such as Urine Therapy, Fasting, Cancer etc. Just look at some of the information in the Cancer area which destroys the piles of disinformation and nonsense in places like the Zapper forum which to me is full of children and wannabes who look for a magic bullet thinking zappers will cure everything haha.



So if you drunk tons of distilled water or any water did you balance it with real salt? If not then you became dehydrated just the same and put yourself in a worse state than before its that simple. Again things need to be looked into far deeper than what you and most alternative wannabes and so called professionals have done. I've had people with Cancer ask me for information which I've given them and its been far deeper than their health care PROFESSIONAL and in some cases I've shown them what their professional said was totally wrong. Now I've helped cure someone of Breast Cancer in the flesh infact it was my mother. So have you anything like this along with Centex and others I've helped here and in the flesh? People have seen my information proven by others on here and around the web when they've researched correctly! You did a 1 day Fast remember hahaha. You never did Urine therapy etc. Anyone can eat a carrot or two and a couple fo satsumas and think their doing alright and looking after themselves. Take a Cancer patient, they NEED 20 pounds of food a day thats correct TWENTY! Some take a few apples and a few greens and think they've done everything when its simply not true. Then you can go into what type of Juicer they used and did it release the enzymes or destroy them blah blah. Again its all about going deeper than the pissy levels most research to and think their know-it-alls.

I hope this helps, and never pay attention to the distractors and disinformation on the boards, or simply misinformed, but the RESEARCH and RESEARCHER himself. :)



Funny this because you seem to be following nonsense yourself. Again I back my work up by most times giving the names of my sources and of course finding the truthful sources. Along with people who utilise my knowledge and methods and GET RESULTS! I have people asking me daily about using things like Violet Rays for feet fungus to which I tell them SAVE YOUR MONEY and just use a bowel of Cayenne Pepper in warm water for 20 minutes its far superior and costs less. Yes I know it works because I have helped someone with both Violet Ray and Cayenne pepper and the Cayenne is much better. Yes the Violet Ray I used was high power and a proper Nikola Tesla seperate primary and Secondary coil unit(s). Also if they wanted a faster but chemical version I've notified them of the power of Listerine if they desire this route. Forget all these wannabe fancy gadgets! I would rather be known as a true healer which means passing information out for free and as much as possible and with the quickest, cheapest and most productive methods available. If you feel better good for you!

and you cannot deny my test, which is posted at Zapper Image Forum, a high count of TB, which I KNOW not only from TESTS, but my symptomology.

I do not deny you may hve the TB virus you claim and never have done although of late I've been doubious of the Fscan2 but if you've flagged up on other tests well then.. Quite frankly Vtool I do not care what you have and what state your in because you've been argumentative on this forum in the past....

Viruses exist, and I know from the counts going UP and down, and how I have missed 45 days of treatment, and how that affects me.



So because I and many high end microbiologists deny Hivs existance you think I deny your TB existance? Weird! If you study hard enough all these problems in the body exist and form from one thing and its up to you to study and find out this herbalist information.

If you say Beck didn't cure aids patients, then you care calling HIM (the inventor of the original flashcube on the camera that mankind USES, and inventor/former physicist for the U.S. NAVY) a LIAR. You are also saying the Hospital in Mexico that wanted to NOMINATE him for a NOBLE prize in Medicine a LIAR, and SOTA Instruments, and Tools For Wellness, and Tools For Healing, and so on, that sell his equipment, and have MANY HAPPY and REPEAT CUSTOMERS.



I will call Beck a misguided person who was still too far tagged on to the Medical Mafia nonsense. He believed in the pathetic hiv nonsense and tests and many other false science medical doctrines. Again name some of these Aids patients and how many etc. Again prove they had AIDS and certainly you wouldn't prove they had hiv. Again this has all been gone through so I will not repeat. So just because I invent the flashlight for a camera means I know more than generations of herbalists etc? Cause it doesn't. Oh come on a nobel peace prize is medical mafia awarding and toeing their line nonsense. Qualifications, awards etc mean nothing. The doctor down the road with his degrees etc who has Cancer patients knows NOTHING about Cancer and the basics of health including water. I have no qualifications and bullcrap and I will destroy him in the area and everything else except for his DRUG bible and prescribing which he can stick up his backside and stop killing people. Linus Pauling had Nobel Peace prizes and yes came out with Vitamin C knowledge but what did he do wrong? He promoted Ascorbic Acid which on one hand worked and on the other hand damages the body with acidity. Whoopi doo nobel peace prize ooooooooo. Why hasn't Richard Schulze, Lorraine Day, Max Gerson, Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, Dr Christopher, Rene Caisse, John Beard and many others got Peace Prizes?!?!?! Now look what they've done for people along with many many others who don't have qualifications. A qualification and peace of paper is just to prove you've been indoctrinated in a certain way which helps the system. You then get rewarded with a job, position within the matrix system the Jesuits and their Military/Medical/Pharmaceutical/Industrial Complex own.

And you are calling ME a fraud, and ME a liar. That, dear friend, is were you went wrong. I'll post my new test, and I am the real thing, and I DO NOT have to hide behind this anon identity... I've posted my real name and id on the boards before.... I have NOTHING to hide, and I detest your discrediting my reporting of my personal experience and research here on this forum, and that of Beck, and many others.



I have not called you anything of the sort. I have pointed out that the Beck methods are not what they seem and that AIDS is caused by other means etc. You can post your tests as much as you like as you and them do not interest me and I cannot see why you think I care or say anything about your tests. Yes I discredit Beck on many of the issues he speaks and claims his protocol works for. I do not deny it has its uses. I expose that he makes many mistakes (ozone, electroporation). I feel people need to know the whole truth in order to work out the real truth.

And lastly 2-Tuff, you admitted in one of your earlier posts on the other boards that YOU NEVER USED THE MPG5 yourself... isn't that right???



I have never used a Magnetic Pulser of any MPG wether Sota or anyone else and I will not spend 200$ or more on units when I can Fast and other methods and get far superior results.

And you want to talk about your experience with Beck??? have no TRUE experience with the FULL protocol



I have been using the Beck electrification for a long time now, although I did not use it for quite some time until recently. I have been using Ozone for 6 years now and Colloidal Silver I had used from 6 years ago until recently when I realised it was a poison. So my friend you can say I've been doing an almost full Beck protocol for a minimum 5 Years whilst you were messing around with Fscans and Rife getting no where and taking endless Transfer Factor +.

Keep that important point in mind... YOU NEVER used the MPG5, so the virus or pathogen slipped around in your LYMPHS, and LYMPH fluid (and nerve sheath) while you only "zapping" or put electric microcurrent into your blood,,, you didn't do so with your lymph fluids



Sorry but zapping doesn't electricy the blood and even your Beck proved this so you weren't listening carefully was you. My friend I have used and own Violet Ray machines and all sorts. My lymph system has been cleansed with other natural methods as well as being helped with Argon Plasmas. Now you go on about electricity so much and I've had experience with warts on people and found that warts of the serious persistance could only be got rid of with Edgar Cayce method in the quickest time never to be seen again. Now Cayce utilised just Baking Soda and Castor Oil the same as me. Cayce did adore Violet Ray systems but even this the problems still would persist. By the way the person also utilised a MPG so whoopi do for that haha, stick to blowing springs in parking meters.

Remember, the body has 2x the VOLUME of LYMPH FLUID than it does BLOOD.

No wonder you FAILED with using only ONE beck device, and apparently never drank copious amounts of ozonated water (a solid detoxifier and cleanser) and COLLOIDAL SILVER.



What are you talking about? What have I failed? What have I told you I was trying to defeat? NOTHING! Again nonsense once again. I've been there and done that and read the book and most of it was crap! Colloidal Ionic Silver is a poison, the same for Colloidal Silver which all but useless due to its larger particle size compared to Ionic. Again using silver is like following the Medical Mafia with their metal based killing drugs. Putting one poison (silver) in to manage another is nonsense. I used to take silver to combat the fluoride take in when I first started till I got a distiller. Masses of Ozone water with no real salt will cause more harm than good and raise Histamine levels over time subclinically at first but don't worry you'll see some lovely symptoms in the end once the dehydration sets in properly!

I suppose the CDC, and U.N. and ALL GOVERNMENTS Of the world are just stupid about the HNV51 bird virus too, and all those dead suicided microbiologists???? You have me laughing now....

Yes quite frankly they are stupid and anyone who understands REAL health and anyone who read the medical literature back before the 80's will understand exactly what antibodies REALLY are and its not a sign of disease killing you hahahahahahahahaha the medical arseholes decide to change what was set in stone before the last twenty years to capture the minds of lamebrains/sheep who follow them to the latter. So when they come out with the hiv mandatory testing in the future and they tell you that if you have hiv antibodies you will have to have the KILLER drugs but if you dont have the antibodies they will just give you the antibodies and your safe then well hahahahahahaha think with some common sense and logic. You just keep digging a hole for yourself by showing you follow the medical establishment hand over fist.



Do you honestly think that the microbiologists were killed becaue of H5N1 hahahahahahahahaha. I will tell you why many of the microbiologists were killed and it wasn't through H5N1. Many were killed because they were really Central Intelligence Agency agents. One in particular was Doctor David Kelly here in England who was killed. You see it was all linked into this Valeria Plame incident which right now is being used by Patrick Fitzgerald as a cover for the real big story of the Niger Documents. So go a little deeper and stop believing the internet CIA disinformation sources spreading muck all the time. H5N1 has been in existance for 30 years and even mentioned in mainstream of 8 years. Its a harmless virus! Everyone talks about H5N1 as if its some form of H1N1. Even then I do not fear H1N1 because think of it like this, if the 1918 flu was sooooo bad whys there so many of us still around. Go check the real amount of flu deaths a year and see how the CDC lie. See their tricks and conditioning using their Magic Wand (Hollywood) and media systems. You cowwer down to them and they will reward you my friend with masses of fear and nonsense. All you've proven to me recently is the fact they you've mearly skipped the surface of research and haven't gone into anything deep enough. I was once like you and thought I knew it all until I realised different. I defended Clark and Beck and many others but now I know the truth and I will not stop sharing it with the masses just because a few close-minded, gatekeepering wannabes don't like the truth and facts. I will not promote high priced Gadgets when theres far cheaper and in some cases FREE methods much better. I do not toe the Jesuit and Military/Medical/Pharmaceutical/Industrial complex lines at all and I will EXPOSE their NONSENSE and anyone who wishes to follow it, as much as I can. If you don't like it then don't read and simply perish in the Illusional Matrix of Bullcrap like the rest of the sheep!

Well, I am not much up on Urine therapy, as I haven't taken the time to study it, or golden showers for that matter, however, I will add that it's an important part of the proper way to experience and use Amanita Muscaria mushrooms most powerfully... that is to say, when using this revealer of the mystery of mysteries, one must ingest their own urine, their first urine, after ingesting the first batch of the amanita brew... This is the way to best reabsorb the mescaline (sp?) or active ingredient of the mushrooms, and to heighten the experience. I've seen it done once.

Outside of that, I can't offer much on the urine therapy experience.

Call yourself a professional? Not up on hydration or Urine Therapy and obviously much more lacking

I think this guy might be right ;))) In fact, I was telling my fiance' this first part the other day... that if you drink tea, it's not WATER, and that tea dehydrates the body by TWICE the volume you drink it in of H2O!!! She thought by drinking tea, she was getting her very necessary WATER intake while on the Beck protocol she is doing (as I do mine so we don't reinfect one another-come "clean" at the same time, or finish that way :)))) .

He's also right about Beck...

I am feeling that 2-Tuff's right on, more and more with his assessments and statements in this last post of his... truly. Zapping is great, but so far, it "seems" and FEELS like Beck is SUPER! And that's from someone who has and IS doing BOTH....

Again you go from one opinion and become a hypocrite! One minute I'm right, the next I'm wrong because I don't agree with the Medical nonsense you follow like a sheep. Also folks as I told him before hes totally wrong on twice the amount of water to tea as he was thinking of Coffee or should have been.

Thankyou and enough of my time wasted on this person of lacking knowledge. Please take note and I hope you all see reality and not illusional trickery.