i actually found what pbuddy posted to be pretty worthy of debate. its made me rethink the chemtrail thing a little. i used to think there's no way normal trails could stick to the sky like that. also, i never understood how some trails could turn on and off. this explanation makes a lot of sense:

"Actually this phenomenon has been proven to be the result of the fact that the atmosphere is not a uniform medium, but is instead a turbulent patchwork of intermingling pockets, layers, and strata containing air with different temperatures, wind speeds, and levels of humidity. The contrail above initially existed in all locations but quickly dispersed only in those pockets of atmosphere the jet passed through that were not conducive to contrail persistence"

there's also a lot of resources found on that site., "contrail physics" for examp, and probably some of the most scientific stuff i've seen posted here. no offense, but it appears to me that you seem to be the one that's "stuck". why is your evidence any better than his? oh well, im sure this subject has been beaten to death and nobody will even read it again, so i digress. thx for reading.

Hi Bold,

Yes, if you followed the thread, you'd know I watched the entire thing and I wasn't very impressed with the scientific substance of it. Sorry. It was well presented albeit overly dramatic and tedious at times. I did like the naturopath's piece however.

>>Contrails are normal water vapor from jets that dissipates into the air

Actually that's incorrect (imo) as I've stated many times here...all to blind eyes I guess. Normal contrails can in fact persist and spread under the right atmospheric conditions. So how do you tell them apart without measuring their contents?

http://iangoddard.net/contral2.htm

>>"No one can say, but the fact remains that they know it is harming us, and they really dont care"

How do you know this? Is this your personal belief/opinion or do you actually have someone credible on record?

>>"Erin Brokovich experienced a similar situation with a carcinogenic public water supply causing cancer in one community."

The Brokovich story is a great story (and there are many of them like hers) but only an example of a corporation driven by monetary fear of prosecution looking to cover up a mistake. The chemtrail conspiracy is an assertion that our Federal Gov is conducting a massive covert operation to purposely poison the population at large. Not really a comparable issue. Besides, how could such a massive scale operation be kept under wraps for so long? Not likely imo. Somebody at some point (like a Brokovich) would have exposed this like Watergate. There are just too many people involved and too many variables, that not even the Gov could intimidate enough to keep quiet. There would be people by now that would have taken the risk, don't you think? She risked her life, so you mean in all the millions of people charged to be involved with chemtrail spraying (all the pilots, military personnel, Gov employees, their families, etc), not one has a conscience in the 8 purported years of this??

>>"It certainly is good that you dont buy into the first thing you hear-- Just keep an open mind. You don't have to accept this just because of our posts. You should read things and research this further for yourself. You may come up with some more facts that would be of interest to us all!"

I absolutely will. As I said, I haven't entirely made up my mind yet, and admit it's possible. Thanks for the post. It sure is nice to get a polite reply for a change. You have a heck of a lot more class than the egomaniac posters above. Take care Bold.

Best,
PB

I'd also like to add that even if I had found evidence, a pink elephant, a smoking gun, less than 1% of the people on this forum would believe it. Their minds are made up (100% closed). To give up a reason to despise the United States and alleviate their bitterness they carry in their hearts every day, would not give them a reason to live. They need conspiracy to feel good about themselves so what’s the point in truth? Truth matters not to the obsessive.

Best,
PB