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why do you think it is that everyone says labs dont correctly identify parasites? I just went to the lab and got vials i have to put my stool in. He said he is testing for everything and I have to fill up 4 vials. Do you think most people say that becausesome peoples parasites arent in their digestive tract? Or there are juts too many types of parasites and they cant test for them all. I would assume they test for the big ones such as tapeworm, fluke etc. Whats everyones input
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- Re: lab tests and parasites MENDOMAID
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,864,245The usual stool tests depend on visually seeing and recognising parasites. If a person has a heavy intestinal parasite infestation then it is more likely the stool exam will be positive than if they have only a few parasites that would be difficult to find in the large volume of stool. There are other types of tests for parasites in other organs or other places in the body and for these diseases the Dr. usually notes the symptoms and orders appropriate tests. Some people have learned more about the intestinal parasites they carry by being tested by Metametrix Labs enteric effects panel. Diagnostech Labs does advanced stool exams and saliva tests for parasites.
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- Re: lab tests and parasites sd2345
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This is a reply to # 1,864,245I read something the other day (in relation to worms) where a lab at one of the colleges admitted that stool test were not accurate, and should not be used to determine infection level. I only remember a few of the reasons, I didn't save the link because it's useless in my case, I don't need a stool test.
#1 There could be less eggs in stool due to a heavy worm load, in this case less eggs are laid due to some kind of population control built into the worms biology.
#2 The time of day, meaning that it may be that most would use the first stool of the day, which is further down the colon and not where eggs would be laid.
#3 Frequency of stools, the portion used for sample might not be the portion the eggs were in, as they are not spread out evenly.
All made sense to me, I always felt like my worms were more active on the right side of colon, probably dancing, mating, and laying eggs, which would not be the first to go in the AM. - Re: lab tests and parasites david1o1
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This is a reply to # 1,864,245Some reasons why lab tests are not 100% reliable :
1)If the worm load is too low, the worms may lay eggs not the days you are taking the stool sample.
2)If the adult worms are not in the digestive tube or are dead and there are still larvaes living in the body.
3)If the parasitic worm you are infected with has not been documented yet (autoinfectious Ascaris for example).
4)If the parasitic worm you are infected with is not considered to be found in the country you live in.
5)If the person doing the test is not serious about his work.
- Re: lab tests and parasites sunflower75
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This is a reply to # 1,864,323Really - Ascaris doesn't show up on lab tests? If that is true that is very upsetting!
I have four vials in at gastro Dr. right now that were CHOCK FULL of tiny & larger worms, candida, seed-like things, nut-like things, a fluke, and a whole vial of no stool but CHOCK FULL of green leathery eggs which when squished ooze something white (filled toilet with dozens of them in clear bowl water after doing flush for colonoscopy on 9/19). They went to a lab in Cincinnati, I believe. God, I hope these things all register as the Asian gastro Dr. I am going to says he sees parasite-infested patients "all the time,"& said "if you have a parasite, you've got SEVERAL of them!" I nearly fell off the clinic bed upon hearing that! I am hoping THIS Dr. is the RIGHT Dr. this time, so I sure want all of these nasty things to register. I am in very bad shape & about at the end of the road as far as hope. Constant expelling of Candida will send you to the loony bin. It is maddening.
- Re: lab tests and parasites sd2345
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This is a reply to # 1,864,330Wow sunflower, what exactly did you do for that prep? And what is causing the candida to come out regularly?
If that gastro knows that much about parasites, then surely he will know that testing is not always accurate.
Good luck, hope you get your issues solved.
- Re: lab tests and parasites sunflower75
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This is a reply to # 1,864,342I just did the standard "Suprep" clean out you do the night before a colonoscopy. I was amazed to see dozens of the leathery green/brown eggs floating all over in clean bowl water and scooped up a ton of them into one of the four vials I turned in for parasite testing.
My bowels move every other day. It is really weird, on days I don't have bm's, I do ok. But every other day is a "day from hell." 6, 7, 8, bms covered with worms, candida, red & black specs, "seeds," "nuts." I am on the toilet ALL DAY. In between the bms,I eliminate fluffy white candida strings with a red (bloody) end. I think these clear, gel looking very minute little worms that have been crawling around my rectum that I have to swab out with Q Tips are candida. They itch me nearly into madness. I have had months of this and am suffering very bad heart palpitations and serious physical consequences that I am afraid could take me out with a heart attack at any time. In a little over a year, I have gone from a 53-year old athletic woman who could and did climb trees, work all day and night to someone who can't work, can't get well, and plain can't function. I hope what I have can be identified & treated; hope this guy can help. I am at my wits end. Hope you and many others here are maintaining well. I pray for ALL of us dealing with this underground hell!- Re: lab tests and parasites sd2345
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This is a reply to # 1,864,402Sunflower, I went back and read some of your post...I remember you. You were taking some herbs first, then did a round of meds. So, did you get any results from these two programs? How long has it been since you took anything anti-parasite? I'm just curious, because it seems you are doing something to get this much out, and you say it comes out like every other day on it's own?
The reason I'm asking is I was just wondering if that colon prep stuff is that great, I wouldn't mind a clean sweep. I prefer to keep it natural, but after dealing with this on and off for so long, I would take it once to see what gunk it cleared out. Heck, if I thought a short round of drugs would work I would do that, but with my parasite, they just don't seem to have total success.
Well, good luck and hopefully you get some answers and find a treatment that works. Did you ever do the noxema or vaseline w/essential oil trick for pinworms that LoricaLady talks about? What about enemas? Just curious. - Re: lab tests and parasites Rexangelion
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This is a reply to # 1,864,402May the Mother Goddess of US all bless you Sweetheart. Your description of the "Hell" that the "Wicked Ones" are imposing ipon US is almost exactly what I Am suffering. I am going to due the Albendazole/Ivermectin Protocol that was plainly written and described by ICU, probably a very effective treatment, but the "Evil One" being what he/she is has ordered "by law" that Curezone to delete it, which they have done. It was available for for viewing for some 19 months up until yesterday after I discovered it, and removed from Curezone around 6 pm. But I have a copy, which I downloaded, maybe an hour or so before it was "gone". If you would like a copy email me at rexangelic@gmail.com and simly say in your email "request a copy of A/I Protocol" and I will reply with an attachment that will open with MS Word. On a previous post I explained why this is probably the only long-term, effective treatment for Magellons or Lymphatic Filiarasis Diseases. Dr. Clark's treatment's, which I have tried, are effective only for the short-term. These "Monsters Inside of US" learn quickly how to adapt and survive Dr. Clark's Protocols and soon thereafter they no longer are extinguished by them. These(KJV Mark 9:48) i.e. - ”Worms” are those that at dieth not. May the “True and Loving God and Goddess of Heaven” Bless you in your efforts to become well again. Thank you Blessedly for your post. (I Peter 5:1-10, NIV) “To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed: Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away. In the same way, you who are younger, submit yourselves to your elders. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble. Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you. Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast. To him be the power for ever and ever, Amen.”
- Re: lab tests and parasites sd2345
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- Re: lab tests and parasites linenup
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This is a reply to # 1,864,245Too unpredictable - for several reasons - do yourself a favor and test with Metametrix
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This is a reply to # 1,864,462Thanks for the tip Lineup. You're probably, certainly right because Metramix is owned"lock, stock and barrel" by the "Donald".
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This is a reply to # 1,864,489Yay, this is a good day for me - after "near death" yesterday. This is just how the insanity runs!
From day one, I have NEVER had to take anything to expose any hidden parasites. Mine have NEVER been in hiding. Started with pins that I couldn't exterminate a bit over a year ago and they continued to be a torment for about 8 months. Oddly, this is not one of the things bothering me for some time now - it is other creatures. I tried different herb combos for about 5 months - can't say it helped ANYTHING. I absolutely think there is something to this "biofilm" theory where for certain of us folks,it is harder to penetrate the creatures. Got the stiff one-month round of Alinia, Ivermectin & Pyrantel from the (extremely weird) Korean parasite Dr. & I believe that helped get rid of the pins and maybe some other things. It was costly and I believe it helped but certainly was not a "cure." I elected not to do the second round as it wasn't effective at the real tortuous minute gel-like worms. I have not been taking anything at all to curb this crap for 2 months now - nothing. It just comes out and comes out every other day like clockwork. I am eating pretty much what I want except don't do anything overty sugary/junky/toxic. I have decided that quality of life, as fleeting as it is (in my case every other day) wins out over the guesstimation and anxiety-producing guilt and nervousness over what is right and wrong to eat with no empirical evidence to base that on every single time I need to eat something. My mental health is very precarious on the bad days, and when you lose that balance, you are done! I am not sure diet has all that much to do with these matters. (I know a will get a tongue lashing from many for that statement, but that has been my experience, so to each his own!) My diet didn't give me these things! Something hideous got into my body and won't get out so far, that's all I know. I also am not sold on pumping my body with tons of different substances that are not normally there, herbs, drugs, supplements, whatever. It just feels inherently wrong to me & I have learned over 54 years to trust my gut. So, I guess my tenets with regard to my situation right now is eat meats, fish, veggies, NO fruits, dessert-like things, drinks other than mostly water and minimal coffee here and there, some breads, (I HAVE TO have fiber and quit losing weight, 5'4" and 110 lbs - can't lose any more! - misguided, envious folks say I have the shape of a teenage girl and I hate this - my, what society values!) I believe it will take some kind of medication to eradicate to the worst part of this (the minute "gel worms" as I call them and the candida) so I can at least be sane, healthy enough & rational enough to resume a semi normal life and get back to a career/somewhat normal life. At least that is my direction right now. The first major step and then try to go from there!
As for the colon flush that brought out all the unexpected green leathery eggs, it was something called "suprep" that comes from Walgreens via Dr. prescription. My Dr. said after the colonoscopy he bagged some of these and said they did indeed look like eggs sacs. Amen. This after going to some "vaunted", worshipped Chief ID Dr. at a prestigious St. Louis Hospital spoke with me for LESS THAN ONE MINUTE last month and PUT IT IN MY MEDICAL RECORDS that I am "DOP"and suffering psychosis and refused to let me see any of their designated parasite Drs. WITHOUT BENEFIT OF ANY TESTING. If I get a positive diagnosis of ANY parasite from this new guy I am tempted to go after that b@&#!*% for practicing psychiatry without a license. I have had it seeing people with legitimate, serious medical problems being dissed, treated like trash, and worst of all, left to suffer, untreated, let alone HARMED mentally and physically by these lofty individuals. They should all get parasite infestations!
I will post after my appt. on Tuesday with results. I am trying not to have hopes up too much, but without hope, where are we? I may do the Metametrix next if this doesn't pan out and go SOMEWHERE!
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This is a reply to # 1,864,577Sunflower, you are right, your diet didn't give you this. Unfortunately, I think avoiding Sugar and white flour carbs while fighting them is a benefit. I am a very healthy eater before this, but had my moments and they are wonderful. I don't even call it cheating, it's a reward for being good. My theory all through my adult life has been that if I do enough things right, then I can do some bad things every now and then and there will no effect because I am so healthy it will just wash through.
Then I got worms, and you said it, "something hideous got into my body and wont get out!" My only conclusion is that during very stressful early 2000-2007, my immune system failed me. Not fair because I worked so hard to be healthy. But here we are!
Good luck BOTH of you on your testing and hope you get some answers.- Re: Metramix - A Donald "You're Fire... sunflower75
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This is a reply to # 1,864,623You betcha! I had an EXTREMELY stressful 2010. Unbelievable. I think that and maybe working near a fed. govt. immigration office and sharing bathrooms there may have spurred on what was already inside me probably for years.
I subscribe to your theory as well of doing most things right and prevailing. Not perfection. That is only a guarantee of ending up loony!
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- Eating the right foods is important ... david1o1
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This is a reply to # 1,864,577[quote]
I have decided that quality of life, as fleeting as it is (in my case every other day) wins out over the guesstimation and anxiety-producing guilt and nervousness over what is right and wrong to eat with no empirical evidence to base that on every single time I need to eat something.
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Eating the right foods is important, the human body is very similar to the chimpanzee body and even if a chimpanzee eat leaves, fruits, insects, meat they certainly don't eat the sticky foods we eat in modern countries.
But as you explained, eating the right foods is not the most important factor of a great human body health and energy.
The most important factors are to not be infected too much, to not be intoxicated too much and to have a good assimilation and a good elemination (no blocages).
When you are infected by a parasitic worm which can autoinfect the body, i have also experienced that the only way to get well again is to kill and evacuate most parasitic worms. You can then eat all the foods you want and feel good.
However i wonder if removing the blocages (i mean the old feces and sticky mucus) is not part of the solution.
- To David Re: Eating the right foods... sd2345
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This is a reply to # 1,864,722I'm sure blockages and old feces is an issue. I told you that I was eliminating very well these days, and doing great. Well today I did a coffee enema, and before and after cleansing enemas. The smell of garlic, OLD garlic, was pretty strong. I have not had garlic for two weeks, and I haven't had much of it even then. So it was hiding out somewhere, despite the fact that I have felt pretty darn clean.
Regarding your statement of "auto-infection". You mean re-producing and re-populating right? Well, If you kill all adults with your 1-3 day assult, and eggs are around, they will reproduce. They could have laid fresh viable eggs the day you killed the worms. Even if you kill every single adult, there are eggs in various stages waiting to get to the lungs and start the process. So unless you keep killing them every day until they are all gone, then how do EVER plan to stop the cycle?
I have felt worm free for almost two weeks, my energy level is soaring, my head is clear, I could probably take the SATs again today. I feel better than I have felt in years mentally, and my body is not far behind. However, the last few days I have had phlegm, that sticky kind that I know is larvae. So that tells me I need to keep killing them with herbs so this new batch that migrated to my lungs a while back, and is headed for my intestines can't lay eggs. I also need to keep the clove up to try to kill any eggs that might be left as I uncover the layers they are hiding in.
To me, I think the only thing the CDC is correct about is their life cycle, number of eggs laid daily, and the molting process in the lungs - because I am seeing this process as a reality. I very well might be worm free, but not egg free or larvae free.- Re: To David Re: Eating the right f... sunflower75
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This is a reply to # 1,864,745Yes, very good logic there about killing all the cycles. Glad to hear you are doing well - seems you are on the right track! I have NO congestion anywhere in my lungs, sinuses, ears, etc. Before the very visible parasite infestation, I had the WORST clogged sinuses, throat and ear canals that would just run with stuff. As I have noted here before, all of that DISAPPEARED (including Arthritis of the hip and knee) when the parasites started eliminating thru BMs. I was told by an ID dr. that they are now using parasites to treat asthma, and that that part of my story made sense to him! Damned if I'd every give anyone a parasite for any reason if I was in the the medical treatment profession!
I also think David is correct about clearing age-old debris out of the colon. What a great location for evil things to survive and thrive!!
- Re: To David Re: Eating the right f... david1o1
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This is a reply to # 1,864,745[quote]
Regarding your statement of "auto-infection". You mean re-producing and re-populating right?
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I'm sorry if the word "autoinfection" is not correct in english. What i meant was a parasitic worm whose eggs can be infectious to the human body without the requirement to leave the human body.
According to modern medicine, many parasitic worm eggs (including those of ascaris) need to leave the human body in order to become infectious.
Source : http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/DPDx/HTML/Ascariasis.htm
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Adult worms live in the lumen of the small intestine. A female may produce approximately 200,000 eggs per day, which are passed with the feces . Unfertilized eggs may be ingested but are not infective. Fertile eggs embryonate and become infective after 18 days to several weeks , depending on the environmental conditions (optimum: moist, warm, shaded soil). After infective eggs are swallowed , the larvae hatch , invade the intestinal mucosa, and are carried via the portal, then systemic circulation to the lungs . The larvae mature further in the lungs (10 to 14 days), penetrate the alveolar walls, ascend the bronchial tree to the throat, and are swallowed . Upon reaching the small intestine, they develop into adult worms
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I think for some Ascaris species this is not true, the eggs can hatch in the same human body and the larvaes will travel (or be lost) in the blood and end up in various areas of the body. Maybe the larvaes can feed on the sticky mucus and waste which can be present in many organs and in the brain (a cause of headache !)
Then when the worms become adult they travel to the digestive tube to lay eggs. When there are too many adult worms in the digestive tube, it produces bloating, poor assimilation of foods, poor elimination of feces (constipation), irritations, itches, cuts.
The fact that parasitic worms lay eggs in the feces is simply their way to spread the infection to others humans or animals. When a human or an animal drink or eat a food that has been in contact with eggs, he becomes a host.
- Re: To David Re: Eating the right f... sd2345
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This is a reply to # 1,864,925Ok I gotcha. Your english was fine, I just wasn't sure what you meant. I've known from the beginning that they reproduce in the body. I think the reason that nobody acknowledges this is because they have no solution to kill eggs, know it is "auto-infectious" and since they can't cure it, might as well diagnose us with any other disease and make some money.
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- To David Re: Eating the right foods... sd2345
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- Re: lab tests and parasites LoricaLady
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This is a reply to # 1,864,245Another problem with lab tests is that parasites are by no means just in stools! The liver fluke, which is so common, for ex., tends to hide out in the billiary ducts. Many intestinal parasites, even, attach themselves to the intestinal wall so the stools just go right by them. I think the dark ages probably knew more about parasites than people do now.
- Re: lab tests and parasites sunflower75
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This is a reply to # 1,864,643Well, I can tell you this - there was a red fluke in one of my stool samples. Don't see them often but I had one to volunteer that day. Let's see if it registers with the lab. Not laying any money on that one!
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