Here's a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent's names, etc....
A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender” Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library."
And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read "Coast Providence of Kenya " and the official signature of the Deputy Registrar.....
The above document is a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth", but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth... the real-deal legal kind of certificate.
The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama's birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Here it is....
How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?
PART 2:
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the
group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's
college transcripts from Occidental College ...
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking
that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these
United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya, here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
Even if this is the case, his mother is a US citizen so therefore, any child of a US citizen, no matter which country s/he was born in is also a US citizen.
Lolite, maybe you could post from the link you provided the part that backs up your ascertion. The following doesn't allow what you state, and it's all I could find.
":Under certain circumstances, US citizenship can be acquired via jus sanguinis from one's parents. The following conditions affect children born outside the US and its outlying possessions to married parents (special conditions affect children born out of wedlock: see below):[5]
If both parents are US citizens, the child is a citizen if either of the parents has ever lived in the US prior to the child's birth
If one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is a US national, the child is a citizen if the US citizen parent has lived in the US for a continuous period of at least one year prior to the child's birth
If one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
the US citizen parent has been "physically present"[6] in the US before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
at least two of those five years were after the US citizen parent's fourteenth birthday."
Proof is anywhere you look to read about Ann Dunham. She lived in the US her entire life before giving birth to Obama.
Try Wikipedia to start your search for the truth.
Proof is anywhere you look to read about Ann Dunham. She lived in the US her entire life before giving birth to Obama. Try Wikipedia to start your search for the truth.
You're going to have to do better than that. You, or obummer could have written anything that wikipedia has to say, and half the bloggers an web sites get their information on wikipedia.
"Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely anonymous Internet volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles (except in certain cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism). Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or with their real identity, if they choose."
Use your head for a change. You would come to the conclusion that obummer wouldn't have spent so much of the peoples money trying to hide the facts. If indeed he was born as a US citizen, there is absolutely no upside to keep the documents hidden that would alleviate the issue of whether or not he was legitimate. There is no excuse from you, or anybody else that can change that fact.
"I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already." Gov. Neil Abercrombie
If you are too stupid to look for evidence to back up your posts, then nothing I can say or anyone else says will make a difference. If you want to remain stupid, go ahead. If you want to educate yourself, try checking up on sources that are obviously biased (right or left). Don't let others mold your mind. Mold your own by dilligent research.
All sources say that the same about Ann Dunham. She was born and raised in the US.
"If you are too stupid to look for evidence to back up your posts, then nothing I can say or anyone else says will make a difference. If you want to remain stupid, go ahead. If you want to educate yourself, try checking up on sources that are obviously biased (right or left). Don't let others mold your mind. Mold your own by dilligent research."
Funny Roger Ramjet you call people stupid for not doing their research when this is exactly what you have failed to do! The governor of Hawaii has been caught in his own lies according to his recent statements !
When asked recently when he fist became aware of obama, after admitting there is no available legitimate birth certificate in Hawaii, he replied that he was first aware of Obama when he was five or six years old at a little league ball game! I wouldn't call that observing his birth!!
Tsk Tsk !
People who not only believe politicians but support their lies are the ones in the dark. To take the word of Obama who has the power to clear all this up simply by disclosing his hidden past but refuses to do so is one of the most foolish decisions a citizen can make! ! You are not only in the dark but choose to be there!
Have you ever heard of the story the Emperor wears no clothes ??? Simply by the power of suggestion and the inability of the people to question authority people do a great disservice to their own lives and their childrens lives!
Remember politicians take an oath to the people ,you have not taken an oath to Obama,and by giving him unquestionable authority and allowing this unvetted politician control over you and other peoples lives is in effect complicit in the damage these lies create!
If you are too stupid to look for evidence to back up your posts, then nothing I can say or anyone else says will make a difference.
Well look who's talking about "stupid",the same guy that actually posted this little gem. "then nothing I can say or anyone else says will make a difference."
How about obummer releasing all the documents that everybody has been asking for since before he became president. His legitimate birth certificate, all his school documents, etc.
BTW, you want evidence? Try his grandmother who has already stated that she was there at his birth in Kenya. How's that for "stupid"?
The right whingers can't provide proof that Obama was not born in America, and those that believe he was born in America, cannot prove this either.
It makes no difference anyway, he is still the president, and the right has not managed to dislodge him from this position, as yet.
According to some, the whole US government/corporation, is illegal and unconstitutional, so all this fuss over Obama's birth certificate, is just so much pointless noise.
This particular noise, has been going on since Obama became president, and is a distraction, nothing more.
lol, pursuing the truth are you Ryan? That is exactly what I am doing, but that doesn't mean that you can provide any proof, anymore than I, or anyone else, on this forum, can. There can only be discussion about what one believes is truth, but no actual truth is proven.
As for truth being pointless, that has never been my belief, but, there are degrees of importance, and then there is the pursuit of questions that are merely a distraction, and have no bearing on reality.
This is the point I was making, unfortunately you seem to have missed the point.
Don't bother yourself in replying with more insults Ryan, I'm immune to them.
Wrong again Ryan, this particular question, the one of where Obama was born, is a distraction, because he IS your president, regardless of the whining by the right whingers. All the complaints and demands of proof, have come to nothing.
Obviously those who have vetted Obama, are quite satisfied that he meets the requirements, and those that voted for him, could care less. Its only those that have a bad case of sour grapes, that keep banging on about this question.
If this question becomes a big political issue, I'm sure that some sort of evidence will be produced, or manufactured, and people like yourself will never know the truth, as you have no physical evidence either way, all you have is second hand information at best, and many handed information at worst.
The fact that no-one seems interested in placating the right whingers on this issue, or bothering to take their posturing seriously, tells me, that this is not a big political issue, but merely a distraction, another left/right dance tune.
Claim: Recently released records document that Barack Obama received college financial aid in the U.S. as a "foreign student from Indonesia."
FALSE
Example:[Collected via e-mail, April 2009]
April 1, 2009
Final Nail In Obamas Lack Of US Citizenship Coffin?
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obamas qualifications for the presidency, the group Americans for Freedom of Information has released copies of President Obamas college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obamas detractors have been seeking.
The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obamas legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Meanwhile, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs scoffed at the report stating that this was obviously another attempt by a right-wing conservative group to discredit the president and undermine the administrations efforts to move the country in a new direction.
Britain's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, Obama Eligibility Questioned, leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obamas first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments
concerning Obamas legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrios case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obamas citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obamas campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
Origins: One of the avenues of approach taken by "birthers" in their quest to demonstrate that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States is to try to demonstrate that, even if he was born in the United States, he gave up his U.S. citizenship somewhere along the way ... and if he's not a U.S. citizen, then he can't legitimately be President of the United States. Therefore, many birthers have gleefully seized onto the above-cited news report from April 2009, which purports that Barack Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles under a scholarship granted only to students of "foreign citizenship." However, this item isn't a news report at all — it's a hoax whose elements are all demonstrably false:
The article is datelined "April 1, 2009" and tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it's April Fool's Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
There was no such group as "Americans for Freedom of Information" at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did:
Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed "AP article" you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated family does not exist, just like the "Daily Mail article" referenced in the fake "AP article" does not exist. They're all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you're so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.
Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
Jim Tranquada, Occidental's Director of Communications, said: "Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman 'Lookbook' [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama's first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama."
Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs).
Barack Obama's student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.
Searches of newspaper archives and electronic news databases shown that neither Britain's Daily Mail nor any other major UK newspaper published a front-page article entitled "Obama Eligibility Questioned" in 2009, nor did any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
Leo Donofrio's lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court.
The web site of the United States Justice Foundation includes no report of an "investigation of Obama's campaign spending," and the executive director of that organization who is referenced in the e-mail, Gary Kreep, said in response to an inquiry that the e-mail was a hoax.
Variations: In September 2009, this item was prefaced with photographs of Barack Obama's family (Barack Obama posing with his mother; his step-father, Lolo Soetoro; and his half-sister, Maya) and an Indonesian elementary school registration form for Barack Obama:
Meet the Soetoros
Indonesia
Left to Right: Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: ..... Islam
Nationality: ..... Indonesian
How did little INDONESIAN, Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become president?
Someone who tells lies is a L __ __ r?
After her divorce from her first husband, Barack Obama's mother married an Indonesian student named Lolo Soetoro who was attending college in Hawaii; in 1967 the family moved to Indonesia, where Barack attended elementary school in Jakarta until 1971, when he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents. Much has been made of the above-displayed registration from St. Francis of Assisi School in Jakarta, which ostensibly shows Barack Obama's stepfather having listed his stepson's nationality as "Indonesian" (thereby supposedly indicating that Barack Obama relinquished his U.S. citizenship at some point)
However, Lolo Soetoro's putatively listing his stepson's nationality as Indonesian on a school registration form does not in itself demonstrate that Barack Obama was officially regarded as an Indonesian citizen by the government of that country. In any case it's a moot point, since the same form shows that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, thereby making him a U.S. citizen from birth, and U.S. law states that a foreign nationality acquired through an alien parent does not affect one's U.S. citizenship status, nor can a child's U.S. citizenship be renounced solely through the actions of his parents:
The automatic acquisition or retention of a foreign nationality, acquired, for example, by birth in a foreign country or through an alien parent, does not affect U.S. citizenship.
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
Last updated: 17 September 2009
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp
LOL! Now snopes, two aging liberals who set up shop in their basement ,with no research staff no lawyers ,no verification as researchers or as a reliable source of information ! Nothing but a couple of loser lefties!
At least factcheck has connection to the annenberg project a financial left wing nuthouse connected to ACORN and Obama!
I am in agreement with you IC. Was the two Hawaii newspapers that announced Obamas birth in 1961 a forgery?
I just know that Obama is anti-American all the way.
It would have been easy just to call the newspapers in those days and just plain out lied,
Also Snopes was caught in a controversy on the birth issue!
Whoops - Was 2 million dollars spent trying to hide this?
Whoops - Was 2 million dollars spent... 
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