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My son just woke me up, 1:30 am--he threw it up (1/2 dose OO (Olive-Oil) with grapefruit) What I've understood is the body tosses it up if it can't process it through. He'd been doing colosan, so I thought he was pretty cleaned out.
So, question is; does he still do epson salt (1/2 adult dose) in the morning? Or is it considered a failed attempt? Any suggestions? I'd hate to add a sore behind to tossing it if it's not going to do any good; but them again, maybe something will need to come out anyhow. I don't know. I've gotten nauseas, but never tossed it.
He was a real trouper; did the ES in apple juice; said it wasn't bad at all. Took the OO (Olive-Oil) mixture down without flinching; castor oil pack on tummy. He was real excited to see if he would pass anything--avoided meat all week in preparation (he read chapter from "the Gallbladder/LiverFlush by Andreas Moritz )
I want this to be a 'successful' experience....and I don't know what I should encourage him to do in the morning. Is there a chance he could still pass stones? And I'm a little concerned....
What's your advice? I didn't monitor his bms too closely. He said he cleaned out, and I accepted that. He is becoming modest. I COULD take him for a colonic tomorrow, but I don't want this to be a negative thing, and he is pretty modest. He would worry about the expense too. He knows his father doesn't know mom gets colonics. sigh. Oh the web we weave....
Hey, at least his dad is out of town, and so I won't get any flack. sigh.
His health issues are adnoids, (lymph issues) and vision problems. Sluggish colon. He ate a lot of steamed vegtables for lunch, oatmeal for breakfast, then as far as I know, didn't eat but drank till the flush. He's already back to sleep; that's where I'm headed.
All (positive) suggestions welcome. See ya'll in the morning.
pj
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This is a reply to # 174,369I'd just conyinue with the ES in the morning, the flush should still work.
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This is a reply to # 174,369Hi pjangel
I picked up this message too late to advise you but hopefully you have followed what journ suggested and did the Epson salts in the morning.
I am disappointed but not totally surprise that why I suggested having a bowl ready. He has done extremely well and he has my admiration.
Half an adult dose was possibly still too much; I worked it out on body weight. Even with what he has managed to hold down he should have a successful flush.
I feel a bit bad about it know; it has been a trial for you and your trooper. I was praying that there were not going to be any hitches.
Telman
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This is a reply to # 174,384Yep, he took the first morning dose of ES; he slept in till 7:30.
He did most of it all by himself (I came home a 9 and helped him with the last bit of tucking him in)
So, would you have him do both doses of ES? Would you suggest an enema? Or too tramatic? What about colonic? I was kind of keeping that in reserve in case he ended up in pain.
My flush (the day before) seems to have bombed. I got some chaff and three or 4 pea sized green things. Is there ANY chance I don't have any more? I really doubt that; I have passed only one or two large stones, and I still have colon pains. Hmm...well, we will keep flushing and see. My doctor doesn't think so; he muscles tested me way back after I passed stones and said "No more". But I figured he had in mind the medical model of stones....so I'll keep trying. Maybe I need to 'follow the recipe better'.
Right now I have to decide if I'm keeping my colonic appt. I will, because I don't want to get on their bad side....but I hesitate to leave Matthew. sigh. I have a neighbor, who is accepting of all this, in fact, wants her son to do it as well, but she hasn't gotten him over his 'winter cough' yet. So much to do....
thanks for your help and support. Maybe he'll still pass some greeenies. I hope so!
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This is a reply to # 174,386Hi again pjangel
I would leave the trooper alone now to recover.
No the second dose of Epsom Salts isn't essential.
Yes I do think an enema would be too much.
If he doesn't produce any stones then it is questionable whether you need to continue his flushes. Don't want to scar the darling.
You, well a flush is what it is. Pea sized stones are better flushed out and you need to continue until you are clear. (Just tiny pieces).
Blessing to you and Matthew
Telman
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This is a reply to # 174,393I was so elated I did a new post. 40 stones! He got out 40 stones! Even though I didn't DO anything, I'm excited. I guess if nothing had come out, that would have been better? Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes of all this.
thanks so much! His little buddy next store wants to do one sometime. This kid can drink supertonic (keeps his own jug under the sink) and is tough--but often has circles under his eyes. He is 9. He is part of the vision experiment(two moms, two sons)--in fact, when we all went for the pretest, his mom was stunned to hear he had ambeopia (sp) and one eye was really almost non functioning. She's got 4 younger than he, and she'd meant to work with his eyes but things were a bit hectic....the eye doc was like, "well, 8 weeks isn't going to make a difference--we would have needed to see him years ago. Go ahead with the experiment" So, well hope we have a miracle there as well. The agreement is two Liver Flushes during the experiement. If we can get him cough free. His mom is nursing, but that's not a problem. Dang, I wish I'd printed that answer. But I did cut and copy your last answer, Telman, so we'll have the protocol for the next flush, and we'll see how much the boy next door weighs.
(If his mom reads this, hope she doesn't mind)
pj
later!
pj
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