Calcified stones??? 
northern lite
15 years ago
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I have done my ninth flush and don't seem to be getting very good results. I've had nothing happen in quite a few of them. I'm getting discouraged. This last flush was the same. I think perhaps I have large calcified stones that just aren't coming out. To top it off I've been in constant discomfort for 11 days. I feel like I have a lead ball in my stomach. Eating anything helps for a short period of time, but then the "ball" feeling comes back. The flush did nothing to alleviate this.
I have tried Julia Chang's Gold Coin Grass, and that doesn't seem to be helping either. What else can I try?
Thanks to all.
Northern Lite
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- Re: Calcified stones??? telman
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MoreThis is a reply to # 171,406Hi Nothern Lite
As you can see from the posts this week, some have great success after a period of not producing any stones. You should also remind yourself not every body’s problems are the same, we are all unique.
I see you've flushed 9 times in 18 month is that about right? What we don't know is what protocol you follow and how much you take. Could you let us all know so that we can make comments and suggestions to support your quest?
Positive thought is going to help you through this.
Telman
- Re: Calcified stones??? northern lite
15 years ago
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MoreThis is a reply to # 171,412Hi: I'm using Dr. Clarke's protocol with the Epsom Salts . I follow it quite closely, with no fats at all for that day. I use it with grapefruit juice instead of lemon juice, but everything else is the same. And yes, I've done approximately 9 flushes in 18 months.
I had used Julia Chang's Gold Coin Grass last August for the 3 weeks, and am now starting it again, but I didn't want to wait another three weeks to do a flush.
I went to see my holistic practitioner and she said I was lucky I didn't end up in ER last weekend because my gallbladder was producing a lot of heat, and showing signs of distress. She told me not to do any more flushes until we explore a little more.
Thanks for any advice.- Re: Calcified stones??? telman
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This is a reply to # 171,420Hi northern lite
What you are doing appears fine and its what we all do.
I know there is a feeling of urgency to flush frequently and hurry things along but I have read recently that the body will adapt to changes in the diet and produce more or less bile from the liver. Therefore if you take oo/gj regularly it will have a supply of bile waiting, probably from the liver alone if the gb is week. If you leave it 2/3 weeks then the oo/gj is a bigger surprise to the system and makes the liver and gall bladder work harder together to meet demand.
(If a flush feels that it is incomplete and/or the stools turn pale then an immediate flush would seem to make sense, otherwise patience may be a virtue.)
The aim of the flush if you have stones in the gall bladder is to get it to work to the maximum. If it has been in poor shape it may take quite a few flushes to get the reflex working effectively.
You could increase the amount of oo/gj as it may be below your threshold from 4 fluid ounces each of oo and gj to 5 fluid ounces (or even more if you can stand it). But leave it two or three weeks for the liver/gall bladder to recover. Some of the more experienced flushes take a second dose either the same night or the next morning but you don't want to over do things; wait until the gall bladder starts firing
Hope this helps
Telman
- Re: Calcified stones??? northern lite
15 years ago
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This is a reply to # 171,424I will try again. The only thing I am worried about right now is the constant discomfort in my stomach. It's not like the indigestion I use to get with an attack. It's just there... all the time. I have read where some people feel some discomfort for a few days after a flush, but I had this BEFORE the flush. Any guesses as to what it could be?
Northern Lite- Re: Calcified stones??? telman
15 years ago
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This is a reply to # 171,435No I don't know what the pain is but pain from within the body is very difficult to isolate and it could be a refered pain. I myself get a niggling pain in the upper stomach area, dead centre, just below the "v" of my chest, like a hunger pain. I try to ignore it and is does go away now for longer periods.
Telman
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- Re: Calcified stones??? northern lite
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This is a reply to # 171,424Hi Telman:
I just re-read your post and I think you mention more bile production might be required before I can push these stones out. When I purchased Gold Coin Grass from Julia last July, she mentioned something about a produce that would help the liver produce more bile (I think I remember that correctly). If that is accurate, would you suggest that I consider this???
Northern Lite
- Re: Calcified stones??? telman
15 years ago
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This is a reply to # 171,438Sorry that I late replying but I’ve been Christmas shopping in London today
I think that are probably doing enough already and people here seem to have good things to say about CCG.
I was trying to say something a bit different. The body produces about 1.5 litres of bile a day and much of this, about 80% is recycle bile.
The gall bladder has a storage capacity of about 35 to 50 mL of concentrated bile (equivalent to about 500ml of undiluted bile). When the gall bladder fills with bile, it expands to the size and shape of a small pear. Bile is continuously produced by the liver and drains to the duodenum by way of the hepatic and common bile ducts. When the duodenum is empty of food, the bile is forced back up the cystic duct to the gall bladder for storage. After a meal, various stimuli cause contraction of the gall bladder and bile is released back into the common bile duct.
If the gall bladder is weak this process is interrupted and may result in discomfort and failure of the gall bladder to play its full role, hence the liver, over time can increases its capacity to compensate for the gall bladder. When you flush with a weak gall bladder you need to make sure that all the bile from the liver is used up forcing the body to use the gall bladder. The gall bladder's muscles will be contracted repeatedly forcing out the bile/stones and strengthening the muscles of the gall bladder.
To make sure that you use up all the available bile in the liver it you may need a greater amount of the OO/GJ potion. Some cleansing recipes stimulate bile excretion by eating thick cream 2 hrs before the OO/GJ.
Using up the bile in this way is not the same a increasing bile flow as suggested in your post.
Hope this helps a little.
Telman
- Re: Calcified stones??? northern lite
15 years ago
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This is a reply to # 171,459Yes, I understand what you are saying. I need to increase the amount of fat that I take during the flush to try and get the gallbladder to do its thing. So, I will wait a few more weeks and try again, with more OO/GJ.
Thanks,
Northern Lite
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This is a reply to # 171,406Hi, telman
Thank you. Yes, I feel great...
The process takes as long as it does- we are all a bit different. Since it took a while to get all toxic, it took a while to get it out.
But, so worth it.
The second dose of OO/GJ is something I've done for a while (at least the last 10 LFs). I do it not because I like the taste (ugh, LOL), but since I have to go thru all the preparation, I think it's worth to double up to get the last of it out.
Have you tried it this way?
Anyway, I feel relieved, calm and peaceful.
Cheers
- Re: Calcified stones??? northern lite
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This is a reply to # 171,426Nope... I have a cup of tea in the morning and that's it for cafeine all day.
NL
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