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Oh good grief! Only a minority of Shia Muslims practice such rites and the Shia themselve are only 10-15% of the Muslim population. The above video is no more representative of Muslims than are the Christian flaggelators in the Phillipines or the the southern snake handlers representative of Christianity.
We demonize the Muslims while our freedoms are taken away in the name of protection from terrotists and our real NWO and Zionist enemies laugh right along and backslap one another for their success in fooling us just like the Mossad agents did while they filmed and watched the planes crash into the twin towers. Believe what you want, they ADMITTED it ("We were there to film the event'). Likewise ex-CIA agents have admitted making fake Bin Laden and other tapes.
Gotta have those Muslim terrorists doncha know, otherwise people might wake up and see what is really happening. Now, keep your eye on the tube and repeat after us: the Muslims are our enemy, terrorists are the big threat and Republican and Democrats are the only real choices you have . . . (Muah hah hah hahhhhh!)
1. Richard Reid, December 2001. A British citizen and self-professed follower of Osama bin Laden trained in Afghanistan, Reid hid explosives inside his shoes before boarding a flight from Paris to Miami on which he attempted to light the fuse with a match. Reid was caught in the act and apprehended on board the plane by the flight attendants and passengers. FBI officials took Reid into custody after the plane made an emergency landing at Boston's Logan International Airport.[1]
In 2003, Reid was found guilty on charges of terrorism, and a U.S. federal court sentenced him to life imprisonment.[2]
2. Jose Padilla, May 2002. U.S. officials arrested Padilla in May 2002 at O'Hare airport in Chicago as he returned to the United States from Pakistan, where he met with 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and received al-Qaeda instructions and training.[3] Upon his arrest, he was initially charged as an enemy combatant and for planning to use a dirty bomb (an explosive laced with radioactive material) in an attack against America.[4]
Prior to his conviction, Padilla brought a case against the federal government claiming that he had been denied the right of habeas corpus (the right of an individual to petition against unlawful imprisonment). In a 5-to-4 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court found that the case against him had been filed improperly.[5] In 2005, the government indicted Padilla for conspiring against the U.S. with Islamic terrorist groups.
In August 2007, Padilla was found guilty by a civilian jury after a three-month trial. He was later sentenced by the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida to 17 years and four months in prison.[6] Padilla continues to attempt to have his conviction overturned.[7]
3. Lackawanna Six, September 2002. When the FBI arrested Sahim Alwan, Yahya Goba, Yasein Taher, Faysal Galab, Shafal Mosed, and Mukhtar al-Bakri, the press dubbed them the "Lackawanna Six," the "Buffalo Six," or the "Buffalo Cell." Five of the six had been born and raised in Lackawanna, New York.[8] These six American citizens of Yemeni descent were arrested for conspiring with terrorist groups. They had stated that they were going to Pakistan to attend a religious training camp but instead attended an al-Qaeda jihadist camp.
All six pled guilty in 2003 to providing support to al-Qaeda. Goba and al-Bakri were sentenced to 10 years in prison, Taher and Mosed to eight years, Alwan to nine and a half years, and Galab to seven years.[9] Mosed and Galab have since completed their sentences and have been released.[10]
Recent reports indicate that Jaber Elbaneh, one of the FBI's most wanted and often considered to be a seventh member of the Lackawanna cell, has been captured in Yemen. It remains to be seen, however, whether he will be tried in the U.S., since the U.S. does not have an extradition treaty with Yemen.[11]
4. Iyman Faris, May 2003. Faris is a naturalized U.S. citizen, originally from Kashmir, who was living in Columbus, Ohio. He was arrested for conspiring to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge, a plot devised after meetings with al-Qaeda leadership including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.[12] The New York City Police Department learned of the plot and increased police surveillance around the bridge. Faced with the additional security, Faris and his superiors canceled the attack.[13]
Faris pled guilty to conspiracy and providing material support to al-Qaeda and was later sentenced in federal district court to 20 years in prison, the maximum allowed under his plea agreement.[14]
5. Virginia Jihad Network, June 2003. Eleven men were arrested in Alexandria, Virginia, for weapons counts and for violating the Neutrality Acts, which prohibit U.S. citizens and residents from attacking countries with which the United States is at peace. Four of the 11 men pled guilty. Upon further investigation, the remaining seven were indicted on additional charges of conspiring to support terrorist organizations. They were found to have connections with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and Lashkar-i-Taiba, a terrorist organization that targets the Indian government. The authorities stated that the Virginia men had used paintball games to train and prepare for battle. The group had also acquired surveillance and night vision equipment and wireless video cameras.[15] Two more individuals were later indicted in the plot: Ali al-Timimi, the group's spiritual leader, and Ali Asad Chandia.
Ali al-Timimi was found guilty of soliciting individuals to assault the United States and sentenced to life in prison. Ali Asad Chandia received 15 years for supporting Lashkar-i-Taiba.[16] Randall Todd Royer, Ibrahim al-Hamdi, Yong Ki Kwon, Khwaja Mahmood Hasan, Muhammed Aatique, and Donald T. Surratt pled guilty and were sentenced to prison terms ranging from three years and 10 months to 20 years. Masoud Khan, Seifullah Chapman, and Hammad Adur-Raheem were found guilty and later sentenced to prison terms ranging from 52 months to life.[17] Both Caliph Basha Ibn Abdur-Raheem and Sabri Benkhala were acquitted at trial.[18]
6. Nuradin M. Abdi, November 2003. Abdi, a Somali citizen living in Columbus, Ohio, was arrested and charged in a plot to bomb a local shopping mall. Abdi was an associate of convicted terrorists Christopher Paul and Iyman Faris and admittedly conspired with the two to provide material support to terrorists. Following his arrest, Abdi admitted to traveling overseas to seek admittance to terrorist training camps, as well as to having met with a Somali warlord associated with Islamists.
Abdi has since pled guilty to conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, one of the four counts for which he was indicted. He was subsequently sentenced to 10 years in jail per the terms of a plea agreement.[19]
7. Dhiren Barot, August 2004. Seven members of a terrorist cell led by Barot were arrested for plotting to attack the New York Stock Exchange and other financial institutions in New York, Washington, and Newark, New Jersey. They were later accused of planning attacks in England. The plots included a "memorable black day of terror" that would have included detonating a dirty bomb.[20] A July 2004 police raid on Barot's house in Pakistan yielded a number of incriminating files on a laptop computer, including instructions for building car bombs.[21]
Dhiren Barot pled guilty and was convicted in the United Kingdom for conspiracy to commit mass murder and sentenced to 40 years.[22] However, in May 2007, his sentence was reduced to 30 years.[23] His seven co-conspirators were sentenced to terms ranging from 15 to 26 years on related charges of conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to cause explosion.[24]
8. James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj, August 2004. James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj, both reportedly self-radicalized, were arrested for plotting to bomb a subway station near Madison Square Garden in New York City before the Republican National Convention.[25] An undercover detective from the New York City Police Department's Intelligence Division infiltrated the group, providing information to authorities, and later testified against Elshafay and Siraj.[26]
Siraj was convicted and sentenced to 30 years in prison. Elshafay, a U.S. citizen, pled guilty and received a lighter, five-year sentence for testifying against his co-conspirator.[27]
9. Yassin Aref and Mohammad Hossain, August 2004. Two leaders of a mosque in Albany, New York, were charged with plotting to purchase a shoulder-fired grenade launcher to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat.[28] An investigation by the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and local police contributed to the arrest. With the help of an informant, the FBI set up a sting that lured Mohammed Hossain into a fake terrorist conspiracy. Hossain brought Yassin Araf, a Kurdish refugee, as a witness. The informant offered details of a fake terrorist plot, claiming that he needed the missiles to murder a Pakistani diplomat in New York City. Both Aref and Hossain agreed to help.[29]
Aref and Hossain were found guilty of money-laundering and conspiracy to conceal material support for terrorism and were sentenced to 15 years in prison.[30]
10. Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat, June 2005. Umer Hayat, a Pakistani immigrant, and Hamid Hayat, his American son, were arrested in Lodi, California, after allegedly lying to the FBI about Hamid's attendance at an Islamic terrorist training camp in Pakistan.
Hamid was found guilty of providing material support to terrorists and providing false statements to the FBI.[31] He was sentenced to 24 years in prison for these acts.[32] Umer's trial ended in a mistrial. He later pled guilty to lying to customs agents in his attempt to carry $28,000 into Pakistan and was sentenced to "time served."[33]
11. Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson, Hammad Riaz Samana, and Kevin James, August 2005. The members of the group were arrested in Los Angeles and charged with conspiring to attack National Guard facilities, synagogues, and other targets in the Los Angeles area. Kevin James allegedly founded Jamiyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh (JIS), a radical Islamic prison group, and converted Levar Washington and others to the group's mission. The JIS allegedly planned to finance its operations by robbing gas stations. After Washington and Patterson were arrested for robbery, police and federal agents began a terrorist investigation, and a search of Washington's apartment revealed a suspicious target list.[34]
James and Washington pled guilty in December 2007. James was sentenced to 16 years in prison and Washington to 22 years. Patterson received 151 months, while Samana was found unfit to stand trial and was initially detained in a federal prison mental facility. He was later sentenced to 70 months in jail.[35]
12. Michael C. Reynolds, December 2005. Michael C. Reynolds was arrested by the FBI and charged with involvement in a plot to blow up a Wyoming natural gas refinery; the Transcontinental Pipeline, a natural-gas pipeline from the Gulf Coast to New York and New Jersey; and a Standard Oil refinery in New Jersey.[36] He was arrested while trying to pick up a $40,000 payment for planning the attack.[37] Shannen Rossmiller, his purported contact, was a Montana judge who was working with the FBI. The FBI later found explosives in a storage locker in Reynolds's hometown of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.[38] Reynolds claimed that he was working as a private citizen to find terrorists.[39]
Reynolds was convicted of providing material support to terrorists, soliciting a crime of violence, unlawful distribution of explosives, and unlawful possession of a hand grenade. He was sentenced to 30 years in prison.[40]
13. Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Zand Wassim Mazloum, February 2006. Amawi, El-Hindi, and Mazloum were arrested in Toledo, Ohio, for "conspiring to kill or injure people in the Middle East" and providing material support to terrorist organizations. The three men allegedly intended to build bombs for use in Iraq and verbally threatened attacks against President George W. Bush.[41] The investigation was begun with the help of an informant who was approached to help to train the group.[42]
In June 2008, all three were convicted of conspiring to commit acts of terrorism against Americans overseas, including U.S. military personnel in Iraq, and other terrorism-related violations. Amawi was sentenced to 20 years, el-Hindi to 13 years, and Mazloum to approximately eight years.[43]
14. Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, April 2006. Ahmed and Sadequee, from Atlanta, Georgia, were accused of conspiracy, having discussed terrorist targets with alleged terrorist organizations. They allegedly met with Islamic extremists in the U.S. and gathered videotape surveillance of potential targets in the Washington, D.C., area, including the U.S. Capitol and the World Bank headquarters, and sent the videos to a London Islamist group. Ahmed is said also to have traveled to Pakistan with the goal of joining Lashkar-e-Taiba.[44]
Both men were indicted for providing material support to terrorist organizations and pled not guilty.[45] In June 2009, a federal district judge found Ahmed "guilty of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists here and overseas."[46] Ahmed was subsequently sentenced to 13 years in jail. Sadequee was also found guilty and sentenced to 17 years.[47]
15. Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augustine, June 2006. Seven men were arrested in Miami and Atlanta for plotting to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago, FBI offices, and other government buildings around the country. The arrests resulted from an investigation involving an FBI informant. Allegedly, Batiste was the leader of the group and first suggested attacking the Sears Tower in December 2005.[48]
All of the suspects pled not guilty. On December 13, 2007, Lemorin was acquitted of all charges, but the jury failed to reach a verdict on the other six. [49] The second trial ended in a mistrial in April 2008.[50] In the third trial, the jury convicted five of the men on multiple conspiracy charges and acquitted Herrera on all counts. On November 20, 2009, the five were sentenced to prison terms ranging from six to 13.5 years, with Batiste receiving the highest sentence.[51]
16. Assem Hammoud, July 2006. Conducting online surveillance of chat rooms, the FBI discovered a plot to attack underground transit links between New York City and New Jersey. Eight suspects including Assem Hammoud, an al-Qaeda loyalist living in Lebanon, were arrested for plotting to bomb New York City train tunnels. Hammoud, a self-proclaimed operative for al-Qaeda, admitted to the plot.[52] He was held by Lebanese authorities but was not extradited because the U.S. does not have an extradition treaty with Lebanon. In June 2008, Lebanese authorities released him on bail.[53] He is awaiting trial before a Lebanese military court.
17. Liquid Explosives Plot, August 2006. British law enforcement stopped a terrorist plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound commercial airliners with liquid explosives.[54] Twenty-four suspects were arrested in the London area. The style of the plot raised speculation that al-Qaeda was behind it, but no concrete evidence has established a link.
The United Kingdom initially charged 15 of the 24 arrested individuals on charges ranging from conspiring to commit murder to planning to commit terrorist acts.[55] Eventually, in April 2008, only eight men were brought to trial. In September, the jury found none of the defendants guilty of conspiring to target aircraft but three guilty of conspiracy to murder.[56] The jury was unable to reach verdicts on four of the men. One man was found not guilty on all counts.[57]
18. Derrick Shareef, December 2006. Shareef was arrested on charges of planning to set off hand grenades in a shopping mall outside Chicago. Shareef reportedly acted alone and was arrested after meeting with an undercover Joint Terrorism Task Force agent. FBI reports indicated that the mall was one of several potential targets, including courthouses, city halls, and government facilities. Shareef, however, settled on attacking a mall in the days immediately preceding Christmas because he believed it would cause the greatest amount of chaos and damage.[58] Shareef was also found to have connections to convicted terrorist Hassan Agujihaad, who was charged with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction and later sentenced to 35 years in prison.[59]
19. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, March 2007. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, captured in Pakistan in 2003, was involved in a number of terrorist plots and is one of the most senior bin Laden operatives ever captured.[60] He is being held at the U.S. military detention facility in Guantanamo Bay. In March 2007, Mohammed admitted to helping plan, organize, and run the 9/11 attacks and also claimed responsibility for planning the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and the bombings of nightclubs in Bali in 2002 and a Kenyan hotel. He has stated that he was involved in the decapitation of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl and took responsibility for helping to plan the failed shoe-bomb attack by Richard Reid, along with plots to attack Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf, Big Ben, various targets in Israel, the Panama Canal, Los Angeles, Chicago, the Empire State building, and U.S. nuclear power stations. He had also plotted to assassinate Pope John Paul II and former President Bill Clinton.
In December 2008, Mohammed and his four co-defendants (Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, and Walid Bin Attash) told the military tribunal judge that they wanted to confess and plead guilty to all charges.[61] The judge has approved the guilty plea of Mohammed and two co-defendants but has required mental competency hearings before allowing the other two conspirators to plead guilty. In November 2009, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that Mohammed would be relocated to the United States to face civilian trial in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, although this relocation has yet to occur.
20. Fort Dix Plot, May 2007. Six men were arrested in a plot to attack Fort Dix, a U.S. Army post in New Jersey. The plan involved using assault rifles and grenades to attack and kill U.S. soldiers. Five of the alleged conspirators had conducted training missions in the nearby Pocono Mountains. The sixth helped to obtain weapons. The arrests were made after a 16-month FBI operation that included infiltrating the group. The investigation began after a store clerk alerted authorities after discovering a video file of the group firing weapons and calling for jihad. The group has no known direct connections to any international terrorist organization.[62]
In December 2008, five of the men were found guilty on the conspiracy charges but were acquitted of charges of attempted murder.[63] Four were also convicted on weapons charges. The five men received sentences ranging from 33 years to life plus 30. The sixth co-defendant pled guilty to aiding and abetting the others in illegal possession of weapons and was sentenced to 20 months in jail.[64]
21. JFK Airport Plot, June 2007. Four men plotted to blow up "aviation fuel tanks and pipelines at the John F. Kennedy International Airport" in New York City. They believed that such an attack would cause "greater destruction than in the Sept. 11 attacks." Authorities stated that the attack "could have caused significant financial and psychological damage, but not major loss of life."[65]
Russell Defreitas, the leader of the group, was arrested in Brooklyn. The other three members of the group—Abdul Kadir, Kareem Ibrahim, and Abdel Nur—were detained in Trinidad and extradited in June 2008. Kadir and Nur have links to Islamic extremists in South America and the Caribbean. Kadir was an imam in Guyana, former member of the Guyanese Parliament, and mayor of Linden, Guyana. Ibrahim is a Trinidadian citizen, and Nur is a Guyanese citizen. The men pled not guilty to the charges and are awaiting trial.[66]
22. Hassan Abujihaad, March 2008. Hassan Abujihaad, a former U.S. Navy sailor from Phoenix, Arizona, was convicted of supporting terrorism and disclosing classified information, including the location of Navy ships and their vulnerabilities, to Barbar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan, the alleged administrators of Azzam Publication Web sites (the London organization that provided material support and resources to terrorists). Abujihaad was arrested in March 2007 and pled not guilty to charges of supporting terrorism in April 2007. In May 2008, he was convicted by a jury and sentenced to 10 years in prison.[67] Both Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan are being held in Britain on anti-terrorism charges and are fighting extradition to the U.S.[68]
23. Christopher Paul, June 2008. Christopher Paul is a U.S. citizen from Columbus, Ohio. He joined al-Qaeda in the 1990s and was involved in conspiracies to target Americans in the United States and overseas. In 1999, he became connected to an Islamic terrorist cell in Germany, where he was involved in a plot to target Americans at foreign vacation resorts. He later returned to Ohio and was subsequently arrested for conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction—specifically, explosive devices—"against targets in Europe and the United States." Paul pled guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 20 years in prison.[69]
24. Synagogue Terror Plot, May 2009. On May 20, 2009, the New York Police Department announced the arrest of James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams, and Laguerre Payen for plotting to blow up area Jewish centers and shoot down planes at a nearby Air National Guard Base.[70] The four had attempted to gain access to Stinger missiles and were caught in the act of placing bombs in the buildings and in a car. (The bombs were duds, because undercover agents sold the four defendants fake explosives as part of an ongoing sting operation). All four men have pled not guilty and are awaiting trial.[71]
25. Najibullah Zazi, September 2009 . Zazi, a 24-year-old Afghani, was arrested after purchasing large quantities of chemicals used to make a TATP bomb, the same type of weapon used in the 2005 bombing of the London Underground and the 2001 shoe-bomb plot. Zazi had traveled to Pakistan, where he received instruction in bomb-making and attended an al-Qaeda training camp. Zazi allegedly planned to detonate TATP bombs on the New York City subway.[72]
Najibullah Zazi's father, Mohammed Wali Zazi, was also indicted for obstructing justice by helping his son cover up plans for his attack. Najibullah pled guilty and remains in jail, while Mohammed pled not guilty and has been freed on bail.[73] Zazi's guilty plea was the result of a plea bargain, and he awaits sentencing on June 25, 2010, while Mohammed awaits trial.
At least three other individuals have since been arrested on allegations of traveling overseas with Zazi to receive terrorist training and making false statements to authorities.[74] One of them, New York religious leader Ahmad Afzali, has pled guilty to charges of lying to federal agents about informing Zazi that he was being investigated by authorities.[75] Zarein Ahmedzay has also pled guilty to conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction in the foiled plot.[76]
26. Hosam Maher Husein Smadi , September 2009 . Smadi, a 19-year-old Jordanian, was apprehended in an attempt to plant a bomb in a Dallas skyscraper. Originally identified through FBI monitoring of extremist chat rooms, Smadi was arrested and charged after agents posing as terrorist cell members gave Smadi a fake bomb, which he later attempted to detonate.[77] Smadi has pled not guilty, and trial is set to begin on June 7, 2010.[78]
27 . Michael Finton , September 2009 . Finton, an American citizen, was arrested on September 23 by undercover FBI agents after attempting to detonate a car bomb filled with what he believed to be close to one ton of explosives outside of the Paul Findley Federal Building and Courthouse in downtown Springfield, Illinois. Evidence presented against Finton has shown that he expressed a desire to become a jihadist fighter and was aware that his planned attack would cause civilian injuries. He has been arrested on charges of attempted murder of federal employees and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. Finton has since pled not guilty, although court orders for mental competency training have delayed the case.[79]
28. Tarek Mehanna and Ahmad Abousamra, October 2009. Mehanna, previously indicted for lying to the FBI about the location of terrorist suspect Daniel Maldonado, was arrested on October 21, 2009, on allegations of conspiracy to kill two U.S. politicians, American troops in Iraq, and civilians in local shopping malls. Abousamra, his co-conspirator, remains at large in Syria. However, both were indicted on charges of providing and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists, conspiracy to kill in a foreign country, and conspiracy to provide false information to law enforcement.[80]
The two men are not believed to be associated with any known terrorist organization.[81] Both face sentences of up to life in prison if convicted.[82]
29. The Christmas Day Bomber, 2009. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian engineering student living in London, boarded a plane from Nigeria to Amsterdam and then flew from Amsterdam to the U.S. when he attempted to detonate a bomb hidden in his underwear as the plane began to land. The device ignited but failed to detonate, and passengers moved quickly to stop Abdulmutallab from trying again, leading to his arrest by U.S. authorities upon landing in Detroit. The bomb, containing the explosives PETN and TATP, was similar to the failed device used by Richard Reid in 2001.
Media accounts following the plot indicate that Abdulmutallab admits involvement with al-Qaeda in Yemen. Abdulmutallab has since pled not guilty to six terrorism charges and remains in custody awaiting further trial.[83]
30. Raja Lahrasib Khan, March 2010. Chicago taxi driver Raja Lahrasib Khan, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani decent, was arrested by the Chicago FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force for two counts of providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization. According to the charges, Khan was affiliated with Ilyas Kashmiri, leader of the al-Qaeda–linked extremist group Harakat ul-Jihad-I-Islami in Kashmir, and has previously been indicted in the U.S. on terrorism charges.[84]
Khan originally transferred $950 to Pakistan, to be delivered to Kashmiri, and later attempted to send nearly $1,000 provided to him by an undercover agent to Kashmiri by having his son carry the money to England, where Khan then planned to rendezvous with him and carry the money the rest of the way to Pakistan. His son was stopped by government agents at Chicago O'Hare International Airport before leaving the country. The criminal complaint filed against Khan also alleges that he had discussed plans to bomb an unnamed sports stadium in the United States.
Khan has since pled not guilty. If convicted, Khan faces up to 15 years in prison for each count of providing material support.[85]
31 . Sept 2010. NYC subway bomb attempt.Najibullah Zazi, a former Denver airport shuttle driver. Zazi said he went to Pakistan in 2008 to enlist with the Taliban and take up arms against U.S. forces. Instead, al-Qaeda recruited and sent him to a training site in the Waziristan region where he said he received explosives and weapons training. Zazi said he also communicated with al-Qaeda members during his time in Pakistan.
32. May 1, 2010
The defendant in the Times Square bomb plot pleaded guilty on Monday for his role in the aborted attack, an abrupt and expedited end to a terror plot that extended into Pakistan and an Islamic militant group there. Mr. Shahzad described his training in Pakistan, where he said he went specifically to learn from the Pakistani Taliban how to build a bomb that he planned to detonate in the United States.
Anti-Zionism does not equate to anti-semitism. Unlike some people here, I do not use the actions of an extremist minority to condemn an entire group of people. Unlike some people, when I see someone of a different faith, political leaning or skin color, I do not automatically stereotype and condemn them. I have Jewish friends as well as Muslim friends, though not a great deal of either because they simply aren't in my general circle of friends nor are they among people I frequently come into contact with. I have to wander how many Muslim friends others here have?
Days after the Oklahoma City bombing, when people of Middle Eastern descent were being beaten and harassed nationwide due to false assumptions and stereotyping, I had the misfortune of being in a Joe's Crab Shack on biker day when an obviously Muslim family came in to dine. They were jeered and harassed by the biker idiots and I especially remember the drunken beer bellied biker loudly asking the waitress to bring the Muslim family's pitcher of tea over so he could piss in it. Made me really proud to be an American.
How would it make you feel if someone acted in a similar manner due to reading some of your anti-Muslim posts?
Sounds like the damn Americans.
They're not into freedom, democracy or justice anymore, they're trying to take over the world.
15-20% of them boss the whole world around, starting wars and killing innocent people. They're behind all the corruption, drug cartels, and they even allow pediphiles to get away with a slap on the wrist.
Hate all Americans?
Why not?
I don't have the time or interest into studying religions, but from what I know the bible had a bunch of radical statements in the new testament to kill all the unchristian people in the land, and their animals too.And there probably are christian fringe people who believe that and terrorize others.
We'd all be better off without religions, but since they're here we need to tolerate them, like we need to tolerate different sexua| practices and drug use.
Most people want the same things in life.
I need to study libertarianism more when I have time to see how they deal with all these border and religion issues. I think it's basically, everyone can do what they want with their own body on their own land as long as no one else takes legal issue with them. Our taxes go to protect our possesions, freedoms and therefore our borders, as a Libertarian Republic should.
So what? Look at all the different Christian religions and sects that believe that only THEY are true Christians and only by following their tenets will someone be saved and go to Heaven.
Where exactly do you find support in the Old Testament for freedom or democracy? Does it not also advocate wiping out all who are non-believers and contain example after example of doing just that?
What about all the Zionists and radical Talmudic extremists who believe that only THEY are true Jews, only THEY will go to Heaven and THEY are destined to rule the world over the sub-human Goyim they can murder, cheat and suppress as they wish.
You talk a lot about the NWO. OK, fine. How many Muslims are in the NWO heirarchy?
So, while you are jumping at Muslim terrorists behind every tree and in every shadow, look up and meet the true enemy. It isn't the Muslims who have had and continue to have the largest spy operation in the US. Not the Muslims who stole our nuclear technology and built bombs, not the Muslims who own or control most of the wealth of the world, most of the western governments, most of the major media, virtually every major book publishing house and every major Hollywood studio except one.
Neither was it the Muslims whose agents were caught filming the 9/11 attacks and later admitting that they were there "to film the event".
What your post has done has in no way defended the practice of stereotyping and condemning one group of people based on the actions of extremists within that group. Instead, it has merely served as another example of doing so.
It's pretty daunting to try to defend the indefensible, and you surely cannot do it with yet more prejudice.
I dont see any comparison between Christianity,Judaism and Islam.While you find Violent statements in the old testament and the talmud, no society or government is being run according to those VIOLENT STATEMENTS . There is nothing like Sharia Law in any other mainstream religion.
Jews dont have all the money in the world. in 1955 they couldnt even get the US to sell them fighter jets and had to go to the french.
And what is your definition of a Zionist. Anyone who supports Israels right to exist? There are about 15 million jews vs a billion arabs/muslims. Jews never tried to convert people to their religion unlike the Muslims.
Every nation spies on every other nation. Its a form of politics.Its is possible Mossad knew of the coming attack and if so I am sure they warned the US governmen as did many other countries according to what we know. Bush and Co. certainly knew they were coming even if they didnt know the exact date.
And the Muslims control a great deal of the oil wealth of the world. I dont know if muslims are in the bilderberger? the muslims have their own NWO agenda which is the CALIPHATE and with the cooperation of the
NWO in Europe they will have it. Explain how the Jews control that.
they dont run the world from holywood.
If we dont attack Iran all you Jew theories go down the drain. Irans coming A-bomb is a big threat to western civilization. As soon as they get it you will hear a load cry for Sharia in Texas.
If we do , maybe......
Anti-Zionism does not equate to anti-semitism. Unlike some people here, I do not use the actions of an extremist minority to condemn an entire group of people. Unlike some people, when I see someone of a different faith, political leaning or skin color, I do not automatically stereotype and condemn them. I have Jewish friends as well as Muslim friends, though not a great deal of either because they simply aren't in my general circle of friends nor are they among people I frequently come into contact with. I have to wander how many Muslim friends others here have?
What a load of total Bull-Sheet. You were the one that jumped off the deep end about condemning muslims. My post was about a "muslim ceremony in vienna". Since you brought up the subject, I gave you information that indicated the muslims have been attacking, or attempting to attack the US, which you promptly ignored in your reply, and instead go on this self serving trip about having Jewish friends, as well as muslim friends, and how they were derided in a biker bar. While in Texas at a bikers get together I had problems with those that ride farm machinery [Harley's] because I was riding a Valkyre. Get two of them together wearing their colors, and do-rags, and anything can happen.
Got news for you, Tony. There are azzholes even in Texas, but how many mosques have you seen blown up, burned down, etc in America?
Check out the problems Christians have from some muslims.
http://www.hajiallah.com/pakistan.htm
http://www.hajiallah.com/miseries.htm
Believe what you want, they ADMITTED it ("We were there to film the event'). Likewise ex-CIA agents have admitted making fake Bin Laden and other tapes. Why not? Obviously trying to turn the religious fanatics against Bin Laudin. They claim to hate homosexuals, but sodomy is practiced in Morroco, and other muslim enclaves. http://www.hajiallah.com/sodomy03.htm
The Israelis taking pictures of 9/11. Sure they probably heard about it and decided they could get Bush, to attack the Arabs. It worked. You gotta ask yourself, WHO WAS DRIVING THE PLANES? Not Israelis, but Muslims.
Politicians are the same in Israel. They will do whatever they think will get the job done.
They haven't apprehended any Israelis trying to cross the Mexican border, but a sheet load of muslims have been caught.
The only bull-sheet is trying to paint me as an anti-semetic instead of anti-zionist.
The video in your original message had a title early on of "Coming soon to a town near you" or words to that effect. It displayed a minority group of people from a minority group of Muslims. If it had been a single post, then there might be some rationale in trying to defend it as not part of an anti-Muslim agenda and mindset. However, when one looks at the body of posts you have made against Muslims . . .
How many posts have you made warning or condemning Zionist and other Israeli extremists? How about their spy aparatus here? How about stealing our nuclear technology? You're a Marine and I know you might be likely to get into a testosterone tussle in a bar with Sailors, but seriously, how do you feel about the attack on the US Liberty that killed or wounded over 200 of your fellow servicemen?
Attacks on Mosques? I haven't personally seen any Mosques blown up or burned down, but have seen and read about several which have been attacked and vandalized. BTW, Israel has attacked, destroyed and damaged far more Mosques than Muslims have Jewish or Christian Churches. In fact, Israel has attacked, destroyed and damaged more Christian churches and shrines than Muslims have. How is that defensible?
Am I concerned about Muslim terrorists and extremists? Absolutely. Am I concerned about the Muslims who have an agenda to force their beliefs and laws on the rest of us? Yes. But there are far more powerful enemies out there who would subjugate us and who believe in their right and destiny to rule the world - and, besides my feelings about the wrongness of condemning entire groups of people, I am concerned that we are losing sight of by almost single-mindedly singling out Muslims. Some of those enemies many of us even embrace, and I for one do not intend to be lulled into sleeping with the enemy.
What makes you think it was Muslims that hit the twin towers?
www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm
Israeli truck bombers happy about 911
the buildings were loaded with explosives, and the steel beams were cut on the diagonal
9 of the supposed hijackers are still alive (and even look Jewish)
ridiculous to think they put explosives in it
and then went to the trouble to fly planes into the buildings. Unless you believe in the NO planes theory. Nobody ever explains why they would go to the trouble to put explosives in building 7,cept for the other ridiculous theory of CIA office files there.
I don't see how that's ridiculous, except that it's ridiculous that they figured we'd be too stupid to figure it out. They made it look like 911 was only caused by planes crashing into the buildings. They didn't let evidence of bombs, precisely angle cut steel beams, or pre-planted powders be even considered, which makes them seem more guilty.
There's no way they (TPTB, Zionists, The Federal Reserve gang, Bushes, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, the Queen, the NWO gang) didn't preplan and execute all these people, and therefor this country. If you don't believe that, you've already got on the train headed to the camps.
You know Blah, not many know the truth, and as horrible as it is, I'm sure they're not blabbing in bars about it.
I bet a lot went wrong that day, like the 5 Israeli truck bomb guys who were laughing and jumping up and down on their van when the planes hit the towers, but didn't get their truck bomb where ever it was supposed to go to blow up.
They're throwing in all kinds of Musim this and that to confuse us. Go with the facts of what was seen, heard and recorded on tape and video that day and you can't deny there were bombs set up in there and people knew about it, got out ahead of time and even made money on it. It's all documented facts (ships that are impossible to see by some because they're SO unbelievable). People would rather believe lies, and I don't blame them because your whole world changes if you believe the truth.
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So according to this source the entire 9/11 event was simply a scheme to collect insurance money. If thats the best YOU CAN DO then I am sure it was muslim terrorists. Of course such a theory is just antisemitic antijew evil insanity.Unbelieveable .
Why was Building 7 destroyed?
Since no serious investigation was permitted, researchers have been forced to speculate about the motives for including WTC 7 in the 9/11 destruction. Sufficient shock and awe had already been generated by the day’s events so it wasn’t necessary to add the destruction of Building 7 to the mayhem. On the contrary, its destruction through an all too evident controlled demolition would only prove to be an inexplicable embarrassment since a plane didn’t hit the building. Two motivations that seem the most promising to explore are a. destruction of evidence and b. insurance payouts to owner Larry Silverstein.
WTC 7 housed an emergency command center on the 23rd floor built in 1998 during Mayor Giuliani’s tenure at a cost of $15 million. I join many in the 9/11 inquiry movement who find it plausible that this fire and wind resistant unit housed the command center for the destruction of the Twin Towers as well as a homing device bringing the planes to their targets.[7] Many think that the building was brought down to destroy the equipment and the computers involved in the conspiracy. Others have noted that Building 7 also contained offices of the Securities and Exchange Commission including files for approximately three to four thousand cases, including one that may have demonstrated the relationship between Citigroup and the WorldCom bankruptcy.
While destruction of the evidence has a strong appeal, I suspect that it was not the primary motive. For one thing, if the conspirators required that evidence needed to be destroyed in this way, I suspect they would have planned to bring the building down well before 5:20 PM.
Much more interesting as a line of investigation, it seems to me, is the insurance payout to Larry Silverstein. According to author Don Paul, Silverstein Properties won an $861 million award from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties’ estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million, netting a profit of about $500 million.[8]
David Ray Griffin also suggests that Silverstein’s insurance considerations should be investigated as a motive in the destruction of the WTC buildings. Griffin points out that on April 26, 2001 Silverstein had taken out a lease on the WTC and wound up with a multibillion-dollar settlement when a federal jury ruled in December 2004 that the attacks constituted two occurrences.
More important perhaps, is that according to court filings, Silverstein had a plan to seek a huge profit from a small and brief investment in the World Trade Center apart from his claim for a double payment for the destruction of the Twin Towers. Griffin quotes court documents to the effect that Silverstein had only $14 million invested in the insurance deal for the Twin Towers (compared to 50 times as much by his lenders) through limited liability investment vehicles. The deal was structured to enable Silverstein to “walk away” from the lease if the buildings were destroyed, ending up with a balance of $1 billion. Griffin surmises that if the allegations are confirmed, “then it provides circumstantial support for those who believe that Silverstein took out the insurance with the knowledge that the buildings would be destroyed.” (Emphasis in original) Griffin believes that consideration of the “destruction of the WTC as an inside job cannot be ruled out a priori on the grounds that there would have been no conceivable motive.”[9]
