Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay."
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it."
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California."
Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."
Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."
Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . "
Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.
THE U.S. VS MEXICO:
On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."
Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good. They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.
Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.
DID YOU KNOW?:
Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?
According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.
Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."
WHEN I WAS YOUNG:
When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.
HOW CAN YOU HELP?:
Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out.
California Coalition for Immigration Reform
5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone 714.921.7142
Paybacks are hell, aren't they? It's a good thing we don't also border a large country of Native American Indians who have even greater grievances about the way we took away their land.
Payback for taking away their land to begin with, that's what. After all, isn't that how our country was founded and grew to begin with - taking away the land of the Native Americans and others who got in the way of our expansion.
All of North America has been taken away from the Native Americans, except for 2%. In the process, we committed virtual genocide upon them. In California and elsewhere in the southwestern US, Spanish settlers were there long before anglos. Thus, in a sense what is happening now is a replay of what we did to them.
Hey, I agree with securing our borders and with people who live here doing so legally and becoming citizens. But I cannot help but say that those who are here legally have every right to organize and use their votes and pocketbooks as they see fit. And it that happens to benefit them at the expense of others who are less populous, less organized and/or don't use their votes, then more power to them. They have as much, if not more, right to establish themselves as we did when we totally ignored the rights of those we conquered, killed and subjugated.
No, it isn't Libertarian madness, it is just historical fact and what is right.
I don't support amnesty, the mass influx of illegal aliens or the destructions of white America. However, the racist idea of a "White America" is not a viable or a moral one. People who cling to that idea are going to find themselves to be devisive dinosaurs instead of agents for prevention of the destruction of America. If we want to keep our country from being destroyed, I believe that we must incorporate all of our LEGAL citizens into a true melting pot and use our differences to make us stronger instead of using them to divide us.
I support a return to a constitutionally guarnateed Republic of sovereign states and individuals where all citizens, regardless of skin color or ethnic origin, have equal protection and unalienable rights. THAT is what can prevent the destruction of America.
NWO? Not on my watch - as anyone who has followed my posts on the subject must surely know. Embracing all of our citizens does not play into the hands of the NWO nearly so much as does those who use race and other differences to divide us. Think about it . . .
I did not intend in any way to compare Mexicans to Native Americans other than to point out that, regardless of how they got there, they were there ahead of the Anglos.
I don't know many Mexican illegals or any Mexican gang member and I oppose both being here. On the other hand, I know a great many Hispanic citizens and I consider them to be every bit as worthy and deserving of being here as I do myself and other Anglos.
I think that both of us were wrong to take out Native Americans by violence and conquest. Because none of us were here at the time does not forgive or justify the sins of the fathers. Even so, you are correct in saying that we can't really roll back time that far. And neither does it justify the taking of lands from the Mexicans who were here before us by violence and conquest.
The fact remains that the were here first. I don't think that gives them any rights than Anglos nor I believe that they have the right to demand to be here illegally. But I can certainly understand some of their attitudes when it comes to sticking up for one another and using their votes, organizing ability and economic power to further their goals and desires, so long as such goals and desires are legal ones and do not include illegal force.
Like it or not, the Hispanics are here, they are a growing population and they are a growing political and economic force - and there is really not a thing we can do about it - though certainly we should take measures to stop the influx of illegals (and I don't support amnesty either). Better to accept those who are here legally into the fold as fellow citizens than look at them at the enemy and some kind of second class group. Doing otherwise just plays into the hands of the real enemies.
I never said that you had anything against legal Mexicans or any other legal Americans. I was just clarifying my own viewpoints and I do believe that there are others who frequent this forum who do seem to have something against those outside their own racial and religious groups.
Immigration as it stands now is a mess. We shouldn't allow anyone in this country who has an agenda that is anti-American and/or an agenda to take over America for any one group of people - which is not so say that they should swear allegiance to the way our country is run by and for the elite. Our country has never been perfect but it has had a framework that has enabled it to be pretty damned good and which could make it so much better even today after all the erosions of freedom and catering to special and monied interests.
Illegal immigration is really a mess and seems to me to boil down to a lot of lip service from Republicans to cater to their voting constituency while dragging their feet because of the cheap labor it provides the people with money who pull their strings. Democrats want to throw enough money and amnesty to capture more votes, though Republicans appear to be making significant inroads in the Hispanic vote. From what I can tell, a pretty big portion of the legal Hispanics resent the illegals taking away their jobs and suppressing wages and benefits too.
We have simply strayed too far from the Constitution and the further we stray the more chaos and decline we can expect.
I gotta tell you, I am genuinely worried about our country and the rest of the world too. We don't really know what we have brewing down in the gulf. We do know, or you and I do, that what with the Homeland (False) Security laws and all of the Presidential signings and executive orders, the stage is set for a massive federal takeover. All it takes to set things in motion is a real of even perceived threat. Could be the gulf spill, could be a real or false flag terrorist event (note the timely message supposedly from Al Quaida), could be anything. I would think it might come sooner than later, because too many people are waking up who may not go quietly in the night to the FEMA camps or line up for their mandatory "gulf spill" vaccines (and can't you just see that coming?).
Anyway, my friend, when the chit comes down, I rather imagine you and I will be standing on the same side . . .
What do you not understand about my repeated posts saying I do not favor amnesty?
The white race is being outbred 2, 3 or 4 to 1 you say? What would you suggest - mandatory birth control or sterilization? Before you take out the scalpel to whack off their heuvos or cut their tubes, let's look at what the figures actually tell us:
2010 Total Fertility Rates (number of lifetime live births per 1,000 women) :
White: 2,098
Black: 2,140
American Indian/Eskimo/Aleut: 2,451
Asian: 2,252
Hispanic: 2,818
http://www.census.gov/population/www/techpap. htmlSource: U.S. Bureau of the Census, Population Division Working Paper No. 38. Population Projections of the United States, 1999 to 2100: Methodology and Assumptions. Issued January 2000.
The latest available figures for females showed a population of 100,177,000 white women verus 43,191,000 hispanic, black, asian and others. If you assume an average non-white fertility rate of 2,400 based on the above figures (it is actually a bit lower), then you will see that the existing white women will be expected to have about 212,270,000 live births, whereas the other women will have about 103,660,000 live births. Of course, that is skewed by the fact that the white population is getting older to a great extent and the non-anglo population is mostly younger. On the other hand, it also fails to take into account that Hispanics are not a race and as a group about half of them identify themselves as white.
The bottom line is I don't think procreation alone is going to make whites a minority, and even if we were to become a minority that would not likely be a problem if we did not put ourselves on some kind of holier than thou pedestal from whence we looked down upon the non-whites.
Based on past generations scares about being taken over by one group or people or another (not talking the NWO elites, but groups of people of different ethnic or other orgin), chances are that at the very least the Hispanics might largely assimilate themselves as have other past groups . . . IF we would not treat them as our enemy or substandard. Again, Blah, I am talking legal and not illegal.
The myth of the white minority
By Jeff Jacoby
WHEN THE Census Bureau announced last week that white Americans would dwindle to less than half of the US population within a generation, the media quickly spread the word.
"A new census report says that whites in the US will be a minority by the year 2042," announced NPR's Farai Chideya, while over at CNN Tony Harris proclaimed that "the complexion of America is changing and a lot faster than you think: In just 34 years, the Census Bureau says whites will no longer be a majority in this country." The Associated Press moved a story headlined "White Americans no longer a majority by 2042." Once again, the nation's unhealthy obsession with sorting people into categories based on color and ancestry was in the news.
But there was another problem with all this coverage of how white America is becoming a minority: The Census Bureau never said it.
You can see the numbers for yourself on the Census Bureau website. In a spreadsheet titled "Projections of the Population by Race and Hispanic Origin for the United States: 2008 to 2050," the bureau forecasts a rise in the number of whites from about 243 million today to 325 million at midcentury - an increase of 82 million. A related spreadsheet gives the percentages: Whites today account for nearly 80 percent of the US population. In 2050, they'll constitute 74 percent - still a very hefty majority.
So what explains the persistent drumbeat about the impending white minority? A statistical distortion: the exclusion of Hispanic whites. If only non-Hispanic whites are counted, the white population today amounts to 66 percent of the total, and will hit around 46 percent by 2050.
But excluding whites of Hispanic origin from the overall white population makes no more sense than excluding whites of Slavic or Scandinavian origin. "Hispanic" is not a race. It is an ethnic category. As the Census Bureau repeatedly points out, Hispanics can be of any race. In the 2000 census, 48 percent of Hispanics identified themselves as white; Harvard sociologist Orlando Patterson has characterized them as "white in every social sense of this term." Bottom line: Of the 46.6 million Hispanics in the United States today, at least 22 million are white.
On both right and left, however, there are pressures to treat Hispanics as a distinct racial category. Many on the left covet the political attention and affirmative-action largesse that comes with minority-group status. In some quarters of the right, meanwhile, immigration alarmists warn that Hispanics are overwhelming the nation's "white" culture, dissolving the bonds of language and patriotism on which American civilization depends.
One of the lessons of US history is that racial categories are anything but meaningful scientific classifications. For generations, "whites" have been hearing that they are about to be engulfed by unassimilable foreign races, and for centuries those "races" have eventually become - white! Benjamin Franklin worried mightily about the threat posed to white American culture by the influx of German immigrants. "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens," he demanded in 1751, "who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them?" Those "swarthy" Germans, Franklin was quite sure, "will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can adopt our Complexion."
A century and a half later, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge witheringly described the Russians, Poles, and Greeks entering the country as "races with which the English-speaking people have never hitherto assimilated, and who are most alien to the great body of the people of the United States." In the early 20th century, federal immigration officials classified the Irish, Italians, and Jews as separate races. Yet today all these groups are viewed collectively, and benignly, as "white."
And so, in time, will Hispanics, who give every indication of being just as assimilable as earlier groups. Most third-generation Hispanic Americans, for example, marry non-Hispanics. The overwhelming majority speak English. With a little luck, common sense, and goodwill, it will seem as odd in 2050 to focus on "non-Hispanic whites" as it would today to insist that only "non-German whites" are really white.
Better still, perhaps by then we will have really progressed, and abandoned the pernicious notion of racial categories altogether.
First thing you have wrong is the white american population is a static population. That means it is NOT INCREASING.
For every white american born at least one dies, actually more are dying than being born. the white birth rate is about 1.7 per female of CHILD BEARING AGE.
Therefore it is impossible for the white population to increase to 325 million. I dont know how they arrived at those figures unless they include hispanic whites. Total bulshit.
Second fact is the hispanic birth rate is 3.5 to 7 per female.
Third fact. if two FERTILE immigrants come to this country and have a birth rate of 4 they will produce 4 children, if their 4 children have a birthrate of 4 and 2 are female they will produce 8 children, the 8 will produce 16, then 32,then 64. In 80 years they will have over 100 descendants.
Thats an increase of 50 times their original number of 2.
If their are 20 million of them instead of 2 just multiply the 100 by ten million and you get ONE BILLION OFFSPRING.Thats what the illegal allien population will be
if they have a birth rate of 4.
There is even evidence they have a birth rate higher than 4.
I have read posts on ATS about the cubans have such masses of descendents in fla recently.
Calling HIspanics whites is a great PC way to solve the problem.
However the older hispanics may be more spanish, but this wave of immigrants for the last 20 years is more Indian,lower IQ,higher rates of violence.
That article sounds like pure liberal political propaganda.
ten percent of us counties have a white minority already.
today the politicians dont squat without seeing what the hispanics want.
they were an almost invsible minority in 1955.
You just have to look south to see what life is like there, violence levels 100 times that of white suburbia,highest kidnaping rates in the world,rape not a crime,women murdered all the time, culture of machismo,political corruption,torture is legal,guilty until proven innocent, all this is will soon be local.
same exact thing is happening in europe,except it is the arab muslims who are out breeding the whites, german birthrate is 1.3
prove my numbers wrong,
the hispanics will assimilate america like the borg not the other way around
I wish you could but so far you havent convinced me
show me where i am wrong,
then i will change my tune.
http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/83_projected_fertility_rates_by_race_ori...
At present trends, the white non-hispanic population may actually begin to decline after 2030, though projections for 2050 nevertheless indicate that the white non-hispanic population will still be 52.5% (compared to 22.5% for Hispanics). Actual voting age differences would be even more pronounced. That doesn't look to me like hispanics will be taking over the country in my lifetime or my son's lifetime either and probably not even in his children's lifetime.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/pop-profile/natproj.html
I agree that population increases are a concern, regardless of race. Notably, 86% of the projected population growth in the above link is expected to come as a result of post 1992 net immigration. That tells me we must get a handle on immigration.
Of course a lot can happen in half a century which projections cannot possibly take into account. If you want to really get into long term projections, world population has been projected to actually begin declining after 2070. China has already reached the point of fewer births than the replacement rate for sustaining the existing population. Similar declines are being seen in India. Russia and much of Europe is in decline. Thanks to toxins and who knows what other factors, the number of male births is outstripping female births. In much of China and India, up to 130 males are being born for every 100 females.
http://www.fpri.org/ww/0505.200407.eberstadt.demography.html
I rather imagine that long before our population reaches 600 million, if it ever does, oil will likely be a minor source of energy. If the oil spill in the gulf doesn't kill most of us off first.