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Need something to get your blood boiling????Has anyone heard of this word? Dhimmitude?Amish and other religious groups may be exempt from forced purchase of healthcare policies under Obama-care. You know what other groups this could include? Muslims and Christian Scientists may be exempt from having to have government healthcare.Word of the Day: DhimmitudeUnbelievableThere is an exemption for "certain religious groups" in the Health Care Bill. Obama supporters check it out yourself. Had never heard the word until now--- Type it into Google and start reading Pretty interesting. Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering from within! The prez is leading us right down the path to total Muslim control and you don't care! Maybe you voted for him but now the truth comes out. Maybe you should rethink what you have done.Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims may be specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims may be specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I John Smith, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, cars and etc. and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance at our expense. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.Dhimmitude serves two purposes: It enriches the Muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor or belief in God! If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a Muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, brother?" Now all you Obama voters get in line for your free stuff!... However, I suggest you don't hold your breath!...I recommend sending this email to all your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it and what the past election has done to all of us!PS: Have you heard about the summit Obama is holding this month in DC for the future Muslim business leaders in the US? He wants to increase their ability to begin business opportunities in the US for the Muslim community! Better start looking for a country that doesn't cater to the Muslims ~ Australia doesn't because this country will be overrun by Muslims like Europe is currently experiencing. And you thought our problem was the Mexicans!......
1. Snopes=Health Insurance Exemptions
Are various religious groups exempt from requirements to obtain health insurance?
...Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange...
...The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the...
Fri, 14 May 2010 11:15:41 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,646,296have sold us down river. They have sold the whole country
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This is a reply to # 1,646,635It was a plan that has been in the works. Actually it is more of an intention of ultimate control (global domination)and the plan morphs to fit the social environment at any given time creeping a head (sometimes fast and sometimes slow).
It is able to do this because the PTB are clever in strategy and tactics. They are masters at mass hypnosis and mind control and those who are controlled remain oblivious.
One of the obvious things we see in this forum (notice the complete denial and defense of the programming) are things like the 2 party sham that keeps people buys and divided. The elite have been doing this for centuries. They give the masses something to keep busy and be divided. Now in our days of high tech this has become easier and more widespread.
This doesn't even begin to get into the medicated water, covert murder through the mainstream medical system (population control agenda) and agenda to demineralize our soil and control our food chain. There are many connected pieces to all this that can easily be seen from the top and harder to see at the bottom.
Removing one's self from being barraged from mainstream media, religion, education and other means of control is a giant leap forward into seeing the obvious patterns of control take place.
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This is a reply to # 1,646,296Amish and Christian Scientist don't use emergency room care, m**r*n. You'd be the first person crying about how unfair the system was if you weren't able to treat a broken head after a crash on your motorcycle..even though you didn't pay for insurance. You'd want us taxpayers to pay for you.
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This is a reply to # 1,646,668Amish and Christian Scientist don't use emergency room care
The issue is that the healthcare bill states everyone has to buy health insurance, or pay the penalty. Doesn't matter if you use emergency room service or not.
Your Chicago MBA needs a jump start, it's dragging your reasoning down below your IQ, if that's possible. LOL
You'd be the first person crying about how unfair the system was if you weren't able to treat a broken head after a crash on your motorcycle..even though you didn't pay for insurance.
My motorcycle is the only reason I pay for health insurance, and I really don't have to do that.
If I want the government telling me I have to have whatever vaccinations that the left in cahoots with the pharmaceutical companies decide is the major pandemic this month I could go to fitzsimmons medical center because I am also a veteran, who is entitled to free healthcare.
This twiki alias isn't any brighter than your alternate.
http://curezone.com/upload/Video/Fitzsimmons.jpg
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This is a reply to # 1,646,707Oh, free health care for you? No wonder you don't want health care extended to others. As long as you get it, to hell with the rest of us.- Re: Health Insurance Exemptions - Th... InCharge
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This is a reply to # 1,646,931Oh, free health care for you? No wonder you don't want health care extended to others. As long as you get it, to hell with the rest of us.
Can somebody read my post to MBA twiki, and explain the words.
I pay my own insurance, and I didn't take the free schooling option that came with my being a veteran, or you and the other dumbocrats would have had to pay for it.
If MBA's are a smart as you what's the point of more schooling?
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This is a reply to # 1,646,960I could go to fitzsimmons medical center because I am also a veteran, who is entitled to free healthcare.
Is this not what you wrote?
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Is this not what you wrote?
I could go to fitzsimmons medical center because I am also a veteran, who is entitled to free healthcare.
Since you are having problems comprehending my message in it's entirety, I will try and help. I guess I shouldn't expect a Chicago MBA to understand without some help.
You, and you're sons would jump at the chance for [Free] at the expense of somebody else, but I prefer to pay for health insurance in the event I was involved in an accident on my motor cycle. Otherwise I am confident that my change in lifestyle, and alternative modalities that I wouldn't need to buy health insurance. Anything government run [especially nowdays] is of no interest to me. The reason is explained in the second paragraph below.
My motorcycle is the only reason I pay for health insurance, and I really don't have to do that.
If I want the government telling me I have to have whatever vaccinations that the left in cahoots with the pharmaceutical companies decide is the major pandemic this month I could go to fitzsimmons medical center because I am also a veteran, who is entitled to free healthcare.
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I could go to fitzsimmons medical center because I am also a veteran, who is entitled to free healthcare.
Your health care is not free as you stated above. I am the one paying for it - my taxes. You, however, don't pay anything for my healthcare or anyone else in my family. Because we don't get taxpayer funded health care. We pay for our own,
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Ummm, I think you might want to read that Snopes link - which maintains that Muslims would mostly likely NOT be exempted and cites the reasons and historical precedent explaining why not.
Other groups who, unlike Muslims, have refused benefits such as Social Security and qualify under the guidelines would likely be exempted. For example, the Anabaptist groups (Amish, Mennonites, etc.).
There is much to be disliked about the unconstitutional insurance legislation, but not exempting Muslime and, as far as I am concerned, I have no problem with it exempting folks like the Amish who have a system and history of taking care of their own and who have refused Social Security benefits.
Before all is said and done, I expect to see some interesting challenges to the insurance program - unless the people get fed up with all the unconstitutional codes and laws that have been placed on us first.
And here is another thought - if an unconstitutionally qualified president signed the bill (or any other bill) into law, it is by definition not constitutional and unenforceable.
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I have no problem with it exempting folks like the Amish who have a system and history of taking care of their own and who have refused Social Security benefits.
I Have a problem with the mandate as a constitutional issue. After that a mandate is a mandate that should include all persons if it's going to be law.
Why does somebody have to be in a certain religion, or any religion for that matter?
Can't remember the number, but there was a lot of folks that didn't buy insurance before this bill for one reason or another. Why should they not be exempt just like the religious.
The only reason there is a mandate in the first place is because there are a lot of illegals that NoBama wants to have covered . His plan is to give amnesty, and all the goodies the left can give them for their votes. He as well as the other dimwits who are on their way out need this mandate to pay for the medical these people will need which is only one of the perks they get for their vote.
As far as the Amish not collecting SS, they don't put anything into it.
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We both agree that the mandate is unconstitutional, I was just pointing out that as written the Amish would be exempt the same as they are exempt from paying into social security when they are self-employed. The SS exemption is one of the qualifiers for the health mandate exemption, which Muslims do not appear to qualify for.
When it comes to the poor and underprivileged, they are pretty much screwed no matter which party is in power. The neocon group that controls the Republicans wants to use the poor for cheap labor and many of them are open to amnesty as well as lax about border security for the same reason. They make lots of hay out of cutting welfare payments yet depend on corporate welfare to reap their own ill gotten gains.
The democrats, on the other hand, give lip service to lifting up the poor but in reality give them handouts that keep them shackled in poverty and beholden to the dems for the handouts they don't realize are keeping them down.
Most democrat politicians in Washington and a very large number of republicans could give a rats arse about upholding the constitution, nor do many of them put our interests above those of the special interests they are controlled by and beholden to. ALL such pols need to get the boot! And so does the phoney baloney two party system that just plays smoke and mirror word games to keep us blindfolded and in the box.
If you really want to get constitutional about it, and I do, the federal government has no right to tax our labor, no right to tell me how to educate my children, no right nor responsibility to tell me how I choose to address my private health care issues, and no right nor responsibility to provide cradle to grave housing, food, or health care either.
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This is a reply to # 1,646,793I would be happy to see the health insurance mandate fail if those who don't want to pay for health insurance were lined up and tatooed on the big toe. That way, when they try to get free treatment at the ER or before the EMT's were allowed to put them in to the ambulance, their toe tattoo would be checked first and all treatment denied.
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After all, this is why there is a mandate in the first place.
No twiki, the mandate was to pay for your two sons that won't have to pay, but will get free insurance until they are twenty six, even though they have a college education and can get a job.
You have a business, you could hire them saving somebody else from having to pick up the tab.
Socialists like you call it spreading the wealth around.
Is it any wonder you're all for it?
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This is a reply to # 1,646,955Your stupidity with what is in the Health Care plan is astonishing. Children are able to stay on their parents plan (this means that the parents are paying - not you IC - until the age of 26.
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Your humanitarian side is showing, Tiki. Perhaps one more explanation for the avatar photo . . .
The mandate most certainly was NOT put in place because of the uninsured people who are being treated in ER's and by EMT personnel.
Emergency treatment and safety nets are one thing and mandates that unconsitutionally force me to buy a produce I don't want are another. If you want to pay into a system that provides full coverage for people who refuse to accept responsibility for their unhealthy choices, such as lying on the sofa watching the idiot tube all day whilst stuffing their faces with junk food to the point that they have to ride the motorized carts at Wally World (and look what is in those baskets!) because their legs aren't strong enough to support their fat arses, with no incentives to live healthier or disincentives to keep from continuing to live unhealthily that is fine. Just don't try to force me to do it.
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This is a reply to # 1,647,018Your "holier than thou" side is showing, DQ. Not all people with illnesses and disabilities are eating junk food and watching tv all day. As a matter of fact, I know quite a few people that eat junk food, don't exercise and are very healthy.
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Where have I ever said ALL people with illness and disabilities eat junk food or watch TV all day? What I have said is that doing so is decidedly unhealthy. If those you know who fail to get physical activity and also eat a predominately junk food and SADs diet keep on doing so, there will very likely be a price to pay down the road - and I don't think it is a price I or anyone else should have to pay for them.
My idea of a good health program would be one where we remove the unconstitutional clutches of Big Medicine and Big Pharma, teach and encourage proper diet and nutrition, tell the truth about natural and alternative healing and, rather than suppressing such healing and covering only unnatural man-created compounds which kill over 100,000 people and hospitalize millions each year from side effects, instead cover all forms of healing not proven to be specifically harmful.
If we and our doctors looked to nature first and not only counseled, but required, patients to incorporate healthy diets and lifestyles, this country's medical costs would be slashed to a fraction. Mainstream drugs would have to decrease in price if they faced natural competition instead of let the system serve as a protection racket for them.
Instead of ME having to take responsibility for other's poor health decisions, they should have to do so. If it were up to me, I would have every doctor' or other health practioner include a basic diet and lifestyle evaluation for each patient and then give each patient who has areas of neglect and ommision a program for correcting them. There should be incentives for those patients who choose to take the steps needed to live more healthily and disincentives for those who are able to do so but refuse. That would encourage and enable people to take responsibility for their health the same as they should do for all areas of life, instead of encouraging poor health habits, selling us out to special interests, propping up the medical and insurance industries, and having us live as controlled children in a nanny state.
I think I already my part with literally hundreds of articles and thousands of posts across the internet which extoll the values of proper diet and exercise and the benefits of healing and preventive vitamins, minerals, foods and herbs. By my words and my actions, I have encouraged others to take responsibility for their own health, tried to show them ways to do so, and have discouraged any system that supports bad health habits. How 'bout you?
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