I already had a zinc supplement so I just bought a L-Carnosine supplement with the goal to take both at the same time. What I'm reading now though is that Zinc-Carnosine could be a completely different beast.
Is this true or is this just a marketing technique to make you buy their combined stuff?
Sounds like marketing hype. The zinc will kill H. pylori regardless of whether or not it is combined with the carnosine. One of the reasons carnosine is added it to increase mucus secretion to help hold the zinc in place longer to do its job.
As it been effective for anybody? I'm a little scared that the zinc might be irritating to my stomach, as iron is.
Take the carnosine first to help build up the mucus, which will reduce the irritation. Also keep in mind that too much zinc with too little food int the stomach can lead to severe nausea.
zinc and l-carnosine are not the same as the compound zinc-l-carnosine. The compound is a chelated 1:1 molecular combination of the two. In the US, you can buy it as Zinlori. I know there are other brands as well. Zinc-l-carnosine is supposed to help protect the stomach, so it shouldn't bother your stomach.http://www.supersmart.com/en--Zinc-L-carnosine-37,5-mg--Digestion-intestinal-...
Zinc-l-carnosine alone won't get rid of h. pylori though. But there have been several studies of it's use along with antibiotics for h. pylori eradication - some studies show it increases eradication rates, while others show it doesn't. Studies are on pubmed.gov. (Polaprezinc is the name of the compound in Asia).
What has not been mentioned is that all the studies on Polaprezinc are on animals, not humans. I did find one test tube study on human cells, but not in the body. In addition, the Polaprezinc is not being used alone, but instead is being used in conjunction with antibiotic therapy:
By the way zinc alone has been shown to help with the healing of ulcers, even when antibiotics are not being used in conjunction with it.
Ya, there are a lot of animal studies on it. You could Google zinc-carnosine and h pylori too. I found a few things on pubmed.gov
Yes, i went through Medline. It was virtually all rat studies.
Do you have ulcers? I know there are some anti-ulcer drugs out there too. Hopefully the zinc and carnosine will help if you take those.
No, never had ulcers.
I have h pylori also and my stomach is a mess. I've been through 2 antibiotic treatments (a triple therapy and quadruple therapy) and still have it. On top of that, it has also made my eyes and mouth dry out. My GI doc says this happens in some patients. I bought Zinlori and was using that (among other things) while on the second round of antibiotics. Are you on antibiotic treatment right now? I hope the treatments help you!
Have you looked in to mastic gum? It kills H. pylori even at low concentrations.
There is one other possibility that comes to mind. If you have bleeding in your stomach then many herbs can react with the red blood cells hemolyzing them. Herbs containing saponins in particular.
You may want to do a blood detecting test for the stool to make sure you are not bleeding from the stomach.