If iodine is causing acne, then why after continued supplementation, and even when I increased my dosage to get rid of FBD, did I not have any acne, particularly if the acne is caused by excess iodine being excreted through the skin?
The easiest way to explain this is with a different example. Ibuprofen is a pain reliever but a side effect of ibuprofen is pain. Antidepressants can cause depression. Chemotherapy can cause cancer............. Will these drugs cause these side effects in every person taking them? Of course not. And as I have pointed out a number of times iodine will not cause acne in everyone. Only in SOME individuals. If everyone reacted the same to substances then things would be so much easier. Everyone could eat the same things. We could use the same medications or herbs on everyone, etc. But that is not reality.
Good point, and as most people are iodine deficient, and iodine is an essential element, I would hate to see people discouraged from supplementing iodine because of a few pimples they may or may not get.
I agree to an extent. Most people should supplement in some form with iodine, but at the same time they need to be careful about going overboard. And the acne sensitivity in people is when the EXCESS iodine is being excreted through the pores.
It is like with another halogen, fluoride. We need small amounts of natural fluoride for strong bones and teeth. If we ingest too much fluoride though we end up with problems such as fluorosis. These are examples of too much of a good thing.
This is true to some extent, fluoride though tends to be residual in bones and teeth, and other tissues, iodine tends to be easily displaced, and once tissue has iodine saturation, the excess is excreted, predominantly in the urine, so it is very unlikely that a person could build up a compounding excess.
I would think that if the body was in great need for the iodine that it would work to hold on to it somewhat. Just like sodium that is either retained or secreted depending on the body's need. And as you pointed out most iodine is excreted through the urine. Thus if iodine is coming out of the skin then it would likely be from excess iodine and the body is using the skin as an additional route of elimination to get levels down to normal as soon as possible. A similar principle is used by the body to maintain glucose. Normally the body will burn most of its glucose being ingested or it will convert to things such as glycoaminoglycans for tissue production. If there is a surplus though the surplus will be converted in to and stored as glycogen. When this system is used up the excess will be stored as fat. If this system is also overburdened then the excess glucose will be dumped out through the urine.
During the course of this study, 1.000 mg iodine per day was administered to 14 children 1 to 11 years old for approximately 3 months without encountering any toxic effects.
. As of the latest reports in 1978, the study concerning the iodinated water supply at a prison (53,153-156) had been ongoing for 15 years. During this time, 750 men and women had ingested approximately 1 to 2 mg iodine per day from the water supply for various periods with no change in serum thyroxine and few side effects (156). One hundred seventy-seven women who were incarcerated at this prison had given birth to 181 infants without evidence of adverse effects in the infants (155). It was, however, noted that four women who were hyperthyroid before entering became more symptomatic while consuming the iodinated water supply, and that of 15 inmates tested, two had impaired organic formation of thyroidal iodine (53).
iodine4health.com/research/pennington_1990_review_iodine_toxicity.pdf
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Comparison of urinary bromide levels among people in East Asia, and the effects of dietary intakes of cereals and marine products.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12191890
Iodine allergy' is not an accurate label for patients who have had allergic reactions to iodinated radiological contrast media or iodinated antiseptics. Allergy to seafood has nothing to do with iodine content as it is caused by specific immunoglobulin E to proteins. Seafood allergy is not a specific risk factor for reactivity to iodinated radiological contrast media, but a history of any moderate or severe allergic disorder confers a slight increase in risk. Patients with a previous history of allergy to radiological contrast media are at highest risk of a reaction. In some cases the risk of an allergic reaction to contrast media can be reduced by premedication, but, if previous reactions were severe, contrast media will usually remain contraindicated.
www.australianprescriber.com/magazine/32/5/125/8/
If you are just going to come back here just to act like a jerk again DON'T!!!
During the course of this study, 1.000 mg iodine per day was administered to 14 children 1 to 11 years old for approximately 3 months without encountering any toxic effects.
One milligram is not even close to an excess. Pay attention to what was said in the thread.
. As of the latest reports in 1978, the study concerning the iodinated water supply at a prison (53,153-156) had been ongoing for 15 years. During this time, 750 men and women had ingested approximately 1 to 2 mg iodine per day from the water supply for various periods with no change in serum thyroxine and few side effects (156). One hundred seventy-seven women who were incarcerated at this prison had given birth to 181 infants without evidence of adverse effects in the infants (155). It was, however, noted that four women who were hyperthyroid before entering became more symptomatic while consuming the iodinated water supply, and that of 15 inmates tested, two had impaired organic formation of thyroidal iodine (53).
Again one to two milligrams is not an excess. And if you read your own link it says from the "water supply". If this water supply contains other halogens such as chlorine or fluorine these will displace the iodine, which can easily account for the lack of increase in serum thyroxine. Also note that there were side effects from these low doses. Why don't you look up what those were and post those so people are aware that iodine can have adverse effects?
iodine4health.com/research/pennington_1990_review_iodine_toxicity.pdf
Glad to see you are posting some of the potential adverse effects of too much iodine. From your link:
"Excessive iodine in the body may cause thyroiditis (inflammation of the
thyroid gland); goiter, the enlargement of the thyroid gland; abnormal increases or
decreases in thyroid hormone levels; sensitivity reactions; or acute toxicity. Absorption of
high levels of iodine (particularly from medications such as Lugol's solution or asthma
medications) by the mother during pregnancy or breastfeeding may harm the health of
the infant; such cases are reviewed. The inability to tolerate excess iodine, and the
relationship between dose of iodine and response are discussed. Although some
persons can tolerate very high levels of iodine without developing toxic effects, some
individuals develop problems when absorbing only 1 milligram per day or less. This is the
exception, however, and 1 milligram/day is probably safe for most individuals."
Servus Mariusz
Comparison of urinary bromide levels among people in East Asia, and the effects of dietary intakes of cereals and marine products.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12191890
And this has what to do with what is being talked about? We are not discussing urinary excretion of bromine that people in Asian counties are ingesting from seaweeds and seafoods. Again pay attention to the thread.
Iodine allergy' is not an accurate label for patients who have had allergic reactions to iodinated radiological contrast media or iodinated antiseptics. Allergy to seafood has nothing to do with iodine content as it is caused by specific immunoglobulin E to proteins. Seafood allergy is not a specific risk factor for reactivity to iodinated radiological contrast media, but a history of any moderate or severe allergic disorder confers a slight increase in risk. Patients with a previous history of allergy to radiological contrast media are at highest risk of a reaction. In some cases the risk of an allergic reaction to contrast media can be reduced by premedication, but, if previous reactions were severe, contrast media will usually remain contraindicated.
Same as above. NOBODY mentioned ANYTHING about iodine allergies. So why are you even bringing this up when it has NOTHING to do with the thread?!!!
www.australianprescriber.com/magazine/32/5/125/8/
1,000mg=1g
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From your earlier post:
During the course of this study, 1.000 mg iodine per day was administered to 14 children 1 to 11 years old for approximately 3 months without encounteringany toxic effects.
It really makes me wonder how many people you have overdosed on iodine all because you don't know the difference between a period and a comma. The period (".") after the number one ("1") indicates ONE and the little "mg" afterward stands for MILLIGRAM. Therefore "1.000mg" is ONE MILLIGRAM, not ONE THOUSAND MILLIGRAMS as you claim and which is a massive overdose level.
>>It really makes me wonder how many people you have overdosed on iodine all because you don't know the difference between a period and a comma.
And I wonder why the Iodiphiles might find your posts offensive.
I have found many people here on CZ that are highly offended by the truth. But that is their problem. There are many more people here who want to hear and know about the truth.
so what is the case can excess iodine cause problems or was i wrong, and does this include seaweeds, i dont find iodoral or lugols do anything for me but my soup concotion of dulse/wakame and 1 nori sheet in miso does alot better.
It sounds to me like you were overdosing on the iodine. As I posted before side effects can occur at doses starting well below 50mg.
But what is the proper dosage for each person depends. If someone is exposed to high levels of other halogens for example they will need higher levels. Here in the US people near the coast will likely need less iodine since there is more iodine in the soil and water from salt spray and rain. But people in the Midwest are more prone to iodine deficiencies.
Lugols is a solution of both potassium iodide KI, and elemental iodine I2. I prefer this form for supplementation because it is easier to be very accurate with the amounts of both KI and I2 that I am dosing with. This is not true for other methods of iodine supplementation, such as kelp and other seaweeds, as the quality and quantity of iodine will vary greatly.
True, but the same can be said for the nutrients in food. I am not going to take separate supplements for all the nutrients I get in my food. I still prefer things as Nature made them for several reasons including synergy and even safety. Some compounds are toxic in their elemental form such as calcium, potassium, sodium, chromium, germanium..........