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Cinnamons
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MoreI have been on 4 Iodoral a day [50 mg.] for nearly two years. I am not noticing any physical problems that I would associate with thyroid, but it looks like to me that there is an enlargement off my right side of my trachea. There is no pain on palpating it and no hardness to the touch. The enlargement is soft an pliable. Could this be normal? I had originally gotten put on Iodoral after a test for Iodine sufficiency following sudden pain, tenderness, hardness, and swelling downward toward the clavicle in that same area that was making it increasingly difficult/ painful to swallow. All of that resolved but there does seem to be a soft visible enlargement still there. Is this a problem? Has anyone else who has been taking Iodoral for a long time noticed this? Should I bee concerned? What should I do? Keep taking the Iodoral? Knowledgeable feedback from peoples' expereince appreciated!
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This is a reply to # 1,514,241Thanks for responding! Yes, I am taking 200 mcg twice a day.
Accidently told you wrong about the amount of Iodoral: I cut back from four to three Iodoral a day in August after my boyfriend's new nutritionist freaked out about both of us being on four Iodoral a day. [Bf has prostate cancer, duration 17 years and post spot/loading lab testing conference had recommended that much Iodoral ongoing. He has been on it about 1.5 years. PC is still getting new vascularization, though, per imaging doc. Bf has now cut back to 2 Iodoral/day but is retesting soon and I hope will increase dose after that.] My own soft painless esophageal swelling has not changed since I cut back to three/day. Frankly I am extremely run down and exhausted after taking care of my mom for two years until she died in late July and traveling constantly to do so.
The objecting nutritionist is well recommended by the PC imaging MD for whom he "designed" a line of expensive supplements for PC and other cancers that the doc sells to patients after talking/scaring them off their former protocols. Apparently these supplements help some people a lot but have not helped my bf so far. The nutritionist is a PhD who scoffs at obtaining any type of state licensing [practices illegally and probably tax free]but has attitude and big docs who will play ball with him and sell his $$$$ products. I am not impressed with him professionally but did let him scare me back to three Iodoral a day. He was totally out of sympathy with Iodine supplementation for any reason. He just does not understand about the Iodoral, which is only part of what makes me think he is for the birds. However on the off chance he was right...
Maybe I needed even more instead of less Iodoral since I am coming off of being so stressed/debilitated? I am very vulnerable now physically and emotionally, and not thinking top notch. I know that sounds like thyroid symptoms but I think it is largely physical strain and exhaustion, from the very intense care-taking ordeal. Don't know what to do!!! We have both sent for new test kits from Dr. F's lab. Frankly I was afraid to go to my own MD and possibly have the Iodoral dosing show up in my blood work? without testing again for Iodine sufficiency/ excess first so I would have some explanation on paper for my MD. I have fear of having another medical person freak out on me [they can be so judgmental and scathing] or of inadvertently actually having done something to hurt myself.... All feedback welcome.
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This is a reply to # 1,514,382i dont know what your overall picture is. that could be plenty of selenium or a drop in the bucket. it depends on your Iodine intake and on how much mercury is getting booted out.
frankly, i am starting to think that for many people, under 100mg per day may be detrimental. a 100mg-300mg range is very effective in bumping out nasties.
then you got nasties to deal with. selenium helps but as i understand it, mercury can eat that up in no time. the safe dose of selenomethionine(if you are taking the yeast form that could be your problem right there) is proven at 800mcg, but that is not enough in a mercury detox.
its a balancing act for sure. i got a lot of good out of dmsa, though i took very little of it and am a bit wary of it.
you should review your exposure to other halogens and heavy metals. you should look at all the minerals and fats that support healthy thyroid. dont look at books like dr brownsteins thyroid book as definitive - thats a dead end. look at them as ideas for exploration possibilites. thats what we did with Iodine and quickly surpassed the Iodine project in many ways.- Re: soft painless probable thyroid e... Cinnamons
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This is a reply to # 1,514,431Thanks for your response. I just got it now. Have to study what your said. I think you may be right about the heavy metals but don't know where I got them unless it was form [toxic] cleaning procedures from the sic-room situation...
Anyway I just got back my spot and loading Iodine tests from Flechas. Spot was 1.56, said to be normal; Post Loading was 32; Post Saturation was 65, both indicated as low. This was after being on 3 Iodoral a day for a while and four a day before that, going totally off it for 38 hours, then doing the testing. Have not been able to talk to the MD about it yet. But I have continued very tired and unproductive since my last posting, not being able to break out of that, even though I have upped the dose to 4 Iodoral per day.
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This is a reply to # 1,514,382Most likely you have a heavy metal problem. Here is how I know(besides the fact that most people do): you're terrified of being put in a situation where you're made to feel persecuted. And the reason you're terrified is because you're unable to shield your self from emotional assault from these people. You're wide open and exposed, and they are free to take heavy swings at you and what's more is you feel it. Do you think of social scenarios over and over again trying to plot out how you will handle them and they never end up going the way you plan them too? If so it's because of toxicity in your nervous system and endocrine system alike over whelming your bodies ability to process conflict. For some people an argument doesn't bother them at all, for you it might absolutely devastate you and have you thinking about it in endless loops for weeks on end. This is why heavy metals are phenomenal tools for controlling people, they literally suck people into them selves and cause them to be little introverted easily infected selfish, lazy, fearful, reactive, silent and simple minded sheep. Don't get me wrong, for others the metals can make them a total psychopathic criminal. Sadly enough that supports this system as well.
Chronic fear IS psychosis, the only contrast there is the severity. Psychosis is the lovely byproduct of having metals and infections host to your body. In all honesty, if there was any thing to be scared of in this situation I would recommend you being afraid of your instinct to fear and respect these people. If there is any thing that will get you killed sooner or later, it's that. And remember, these people are notoriously deceptive one day you think they are useless then they save your life and you end up changing your mind about them. Then another day comes along and they put the same scare tactic in you only this time...their medicine hurries your body into the meat grinder. TRULY healthy individuals don't fear them, because they are walking proof of how their god given right to choose leads them to true health and happiness. No one can scare them because they are empowered with knowledge and clear thought. Ultimately, I would rather die knowing I chose my way then die being under the drunk influence of their care. So...find a way to loose that fear or put your self in a position where it is not activated. At this point I would say the fear is your worst enemy.- Re: soft painless probable thyroid e... Cinnamons
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This is a reply to # 1,514,445About 29 days ago you responded to a posting of mine with insight that I might have heavy metals. I have been off line and just got your message yesterday. But it sounds like you may have hit the nail on the head and I thank you. I have gotten recently a low score on an Iodine loading test and waiting to talk to Dr. Flechas about it. Will also try to figure out how to pursue the heavy metal possibility. Thanks.
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This is a reply to # 1,514,382the link between the thyroid and mood/mental states is well documented. A very quick google search - "thyroid", search within results- "stress" netted a gazillion results- here's one:
http://www.thyroid.ca/Articles/EngE10F.html
That article focuses on mental symptoms being associated with thyroid conditions, a rather mechanistic viewpoint, i.e.- "mary was hypothyroid therefore she got depressed". It's not so simple as that. Very true that mental states influence our physical health... what came first? In your case, absolutely, stress, hell, way more than simple stress. Life-altering changes. You have lost your mom, a source of unconditional love:)
I don't think that there is anything more devastating than the death of one's mother. And having to take care of the business of death is a double whammy- how completely exhausting. I'll bet that you have not had the time or the space to grieve. Not that simple grieving will get you past this- but it's a start.
Jeez, I remember when my mom died, the funeral director was showing us coffins, my mom's husband asked me which one I liked. I blurted out "I don't like ANY of them!!!", and burst into tears.
And now, having to deal with so-called nutrition experts(with obvious $$$ interests). Sheesh.
As far as THAT goes, get thee to http://www.breastcancerchoices.org
. They maintain a listing of Iodine literate docs. So do your homework as far as that goes and when they try to intimidate you, have your references at the ready.
And- you need to take some time for yourself and try to work through some of your feelings. One thing that I did, it was not a concious choice on my part as far as trying to heal myself- I just didn't want anyone to forget about mom- was that I went through a bunch of family photos, played with them in photoshop and made postcards and a calendar. It was really cathartic, in fact one night when I was sitting at the computer and missing my mom SO MUCH, the scent of her perfume filled the air, I'm getting teary-eyed thinking about it now 8 years later.
Nothing will replace your mom, that's a huge loss. You need to figure out how to deal with the loss. It won't be easy, but you have to acknowledge this now.- Re: soft painless probable thyroid e... Cinnamons
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This is a reply to # 1,514,777Thanks for you response a month of so ago. Did not get it until now. You seem very much on target but I have to study why you said. I have been very wiped out and just got my results back from Flechas, spot and loading. The loading and saturation are both low. Still have to talk to MD about it. Have gone back to 4 Iodoral per day but not much increase in energy. I don't know where I would have gotten the heavy metals, though.
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