Bursitis 
paraboy
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Hi WEIL,
I noticed in your post http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1488275#i
that you mention having bursitis.
Is Bursitis caused by uric acid crystals and did the moreless ph drink cure it?
Thanks in advance,
Paraboy
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Hi paraboyTo answer your first question, indeed uric acid crystals may be a cause of bursitis. Gout just does not affect only the big toes. It is more systemic than that. And if not treated it will affect more and more parts of the skeleton and maybe other organs. The more I read about it the more it scared me.--Beginning of quote--Uric acid crystals can deposit in tiny fluid-filled sacs (bursae) around the joints. These urate crystals can incite inflammation in the bursae leading to pain and swelling around the joints, a condition called bursitis. In rare instances, gout leads to a more chronic type of joint inflammation which mimics rheumatoid arthritis.In chronic (tophaceous) gout, nodular masses of uric acid crystals (tophi) deposit in different soft tissue areas of the body. Even though they are most commonly found as hard nodules around the fingers, at the tips of the elbows, and around the big toe, tophi nodules can appear anywhere in the body. They have been reported in unexpected areas such as in the ears, vocal cords, or around the spinal cord!
--end of quote----Beginning of quote--Crystal depositsPeople with certain diseases such as gout, rheumatoid arthritis, or scleroderma, for example, may develop bursitis from crystal deposits. Little is known about how this process happens. Uric acid is a normal byproduct of daily metabolism. People who have gout are unable to properly break down the uric acid, which crystalizes and deposits in joints-a mechanism for causing bursitis.--end of quote--To answer your second question, see http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1320397--Beginning of quote--I must say that the moreless alkalizing drink is the best thing that happened to me for a long run. I had gout, knee problems, and all kind of inflammatory problems on articulations for quite sometime.--end of quote--I will not say it cured the conditions. For example, I was recently in vacation for two weeks. No alkalizing drinks and unhealthy nutrition. The weather not helping, it rained more than half of the days, I developed some pain in my left shoulder and a kind of small bursitis like pain on the elbow of the same arm. When back from my vacation and with better diet, no more bursitis, and the pain in my shoulder is practically gone. I took 3 or 4 drinks a day with a lot of lime water (8+ tbspoon) and ¼ teaspoon of Epson salt in each. I realized that when eating more vegetables, the amount of ES I must take should be lowered. With each drink I also take 1,000 unit of Vit D and 1Gr of ascorbic acid (Vit C). What helped also greatly is the understanding of acid/alkaline balance.If you often have tendinitis and bursitis, an ultrasound device may help greatly. In the past I used often a personal device called sonic relief.Use pH paper to confirm that the urine is acidic. Pain and acid levels are greatly correlated in me.I hope the above help.You can PM me if you feel the need for it.Good luckWIEL
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Thanks WEIL for the detailed explaination.
I can only assume that many people experiencing unknown pain could actually be uric acid crystal build ups in the joints?I keep hearing more and more people having kidney stones and unexplainable body aches and pains.
It would appear that the moreless ph drink can stop damage but not cure it in a short time, such as a couple years since you say all it takes is some bad eating without the drink and pain comes back. This is why I believe in cleaning the kidneys and liver, so these things can go away quickly and permanently while using the ph drink.
I would like to know if there are any viruses, bad bacteria or bad pathogens that can survive in an alkaline environment?
Thanks,
Paraboy
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HiTreating gout/uric acid problems requires change in life habits.Better nutrition, reducing alcohol or stop it, reducing excess of weigh, and increasing physical activities are just a few thing to do.Also, let's say, after 15 years or 20 years of uric acid problems, there is no way to cure it in short term.Because of organ damages and of accumulated uric acids crystals all over the body.I read somewhere at a web site selling gout products I think, (unfortunately I did not keep the web address) that, provided that someone is controlling and reducing gout, it can take more than a year to get rid of the accumulated uric acid crystals.Concerning specific cleansings I don't know if they would help.As for your question about bad pathogens living in an alkaline environment, I don’t have an answer. But I think the goal is to try reaching a less acidic environment. The blood itself is just slightly alkaline. I don’t think that alkalosis is a state to reach.CheersWIEL- Re: Bursitis paraboy
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Thanks WIEL.
I have read that cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment.
The blood ph must be maintained at 7.4. If the blood pH drops below 6.8 or rises above 7.8, death may occur.
Of course, our saliva and urine will always fluctuate to compensate in order to keep the blood at 7.4.
Scientists say that the human body is designed to last forever, but they don't know why it breaks down. I think acid is the reason it breaks down.
Scienctists also, say that after a couple of years, we have an entirely new body due to all new cells being regenerated. I can only assume that, it would take a couple of years for our body to heal after maintaining an alkaline (7.0-7.4) body.
Just some ramblings,
Paraboy
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Here are 3 different article about recommended pH values--Beginning of quote--For the measurement of urine and saliva by themselves, in general, you want pH of urine to be below 6.5 and saliva to be above 6.5. From our experience in the clinic with healthy individuals, ideally we would say around 5.8 would be very good for urine (shows the body can get rid of metabolic acids), and 6.8 would be very good for saliva. This gives a split of about 1 pH. Those would be nice numbers mid-morning/afternoon.
Inverted numbers, or too high or too low for either means something is up. In regards to urine, it is designed to be able to go all the way down to 4.5 which means if you are way down there, well the body is appearing to be able to handle metabolic loads (and it usually is much better than a high pH) but the question becomes what else is going on.
Important note: High urine pH is not good from any perspective and all the information floating around saying it is so is from the "alkalize alkalize alkalize" people - possibly because what they are selling - and key word is selling - will push urine pH to those extremes and they can say - "see how good our products work!" And of course if a person stays at those high levels too long they start having issues and the fallback becomes "you are detoxing, stick with the program". It is all a bunch of hooey. For physiologic health, you do notwant to see urine above 6.5. It should always be able to get down into the 5 range - this is a reflection of adaptive capacity and it shows metabolic acids can and are being removed from the system.
Read the above paragraph again. You want your urine able to move acid, and to essentially be acid when appropriate. If you are keeping urine above 6.5 and day to day are into neutral pH (7) or above numbers, this is not good.--end of quote----Beginning of quote--If your urine is not alkaline by 2 p.m. you are definitely in an ACIDIC condition and lacking in alkaline reserves. The pH of the urine should run between 6.8 and 8.4.--end of quote----Beginning of quote--Saliva pH and Cancer"When healthy, the pH of blood is 7.4, the pH of spinal fluid is 7.4, and the pH of saliva is 7.4. Thus the pH of saliva parallels the extra cellular fluid...pH test of saliva represents the most consistent and most definitive physical sign of the ionic calcium deficiency syndrome...The pH of the non-deficient and healthy person is in the 7.5 (dark blue) to 7.1 (blue) slightly alkaline range. The range from 6.5 (blue-green) which is weakly acidic to 4.5 (light yellow) which is strongly acidic represents states from mildly deficient to strongly deficient, respectively. Most children are dark blue, a pH of 7.5. Over half of adults are green-yellow, a pH of 6.5 or lower, reflecting the calcium deficiency of aging and lifestyle defects. Cancer patients are usually a bright yellow, a pH of 4.5, especially when terminal." The Calcium Factor: The Scientific Secret of Health and Youth, by Robert R. Barefoot and Carl J. Reich, M.D., Gilliland Printing Inc., Arkansas City, Kansas, 1996.--end of quote--I recall ML saying that the recommended RBTI pH levels is for healthy people. Those who are sick should have slightly higher pH.WIEL- Re: Few articles about pH values paraboy
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Wow, WIEL.
Thanks for the good info!
It will take me a while to get through them all.
The first article, biomedx is of no value considering that they site no data to backup their claim that alkalize people are a bunch of hooey. It almost sounds like a quackbusters article. Another point is that testing the theory of maintaining an alkaline ph would need some serious years of study to conclude a result of any kind.
I realize that if we have acids in our system, they would need to come out the urine, but is this still true if we no longer have those acids?
What is RBTI?
Thanks again,
Paraboy
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Hi paraboy
I don't agree with your conclusion about biomedx. I like their “How You Rust and Rot” presentation.I may be wrong but they seem to be an offspring of RBTI.Now what is RBTI? It stands for Reams Biological Theory Of Ionization.JustinL would be in a lot better position to explain what the theory is. I think Moreless knew Carey Reams. Perhaps ML studied under Carey Reams, but I really don't know what the relation was between Reams and ML.--Beginning of quote--The work of Carey Reams
Carey Reams was a consummate scientist with an inquiring mind. While attempting to solve a riddle for a neighbor whose young three and a half year old son was having constant seizures that medical doctors could do nothing about, he had what might me called a spiritual epiphany of scientific proportions.
Dr. Reams uncovered what he believed to be the mathematical equation for perfect health in the human body. Though the final numbers of the equation can be ascertained through specific research methods, the totality of the relationships that lead up to the final tally is probably beyond complete apprehension. Nevertheless, the results of the method are incredibly useful for defining balance in the body. (About the neighbor boy, his seizures ceased once the imbalance was determined and corrective measures were taken.)The methodology known as the RBTI or Reams Biological Theory of Ionization, uses procedures from the world of organic soil testing. As we humans are derived from the dust of the earth, it makes sense that correlations exist. Dr. Reams defined the correlations exquisitely by looking at body fluids which are easy to get--urine and saliva.--end of quote----Beginning of quote--RBTI IntroductionThe Reams Biological Theory Of Ionization (RBTI) is the theory developed by Dr. Carey Reams which sets forth how energy in its 3 forms of heat, electricity, and matter is put together and taken apart in biological life. Biological life refers to all living things such as human beings, animals, plants, insects, viruses, bacteria, single cell creatures, etc. Although we rarely think of ourselves in terms of heat, electricity, and matter, these three forms of energy are precisely what we are made up of in terms of energy as the word is used in the sciences of physics and chemistry. These 3 forms of energy are described in the following equation set forth by Dr. Albert Einstein:
E = MC^2 --- E means Energy, namely Energy in the forms of Heat + Electricity. The interpretation of the equation in words is essentially this:
Energy = Matter times the Speed of Light (186,000 miles per second) times itself (186,000 miles per second).
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Matter is immediately turned into Heat & Electrical Energy when all the Anions & Cations (Protons & Electrons) are suddenly increased to a speed equivalent to 186,000 x 186,000 miles per second which is 3.46 x 10^10 which equals the number below:
34,596,000,000 (34 Billion, 596 Million)miles per second.
Naturally, numbers like the above are quite difficult to comprehend but they do reveal the potential of the inner workings of the particles that make up the atoms which are the particles responsible for making up the elements that we and everything in the world are composed of. And this concept of Matter andHeat andElectricity going back and forth in a process of changing from one form to the other is what occurs in our bodies on a second by second basis.
When there is a perfect balance between the Heat, the Electricity, and the Matter, our body functions perfectly well. There is then a perfectly balanced gain and loss of energy in a person's life. However, when any one of these forms of energy becomes too great and/or too minimal, the homeostasis* of our body is upset which causes a loss of energy in one or more of its three forms and thus the balance of life is upset which can lead to problems.
Not only is RBTI the theory of how biological life is put together and taken apart but it is also the theory of how biological life is most efficiently and most quickly put together and taken apart according to the frequency upon which a specific kind of biological life lives. During every second of life there is a specific amount of time that a specific amount of energy is to be gained as well as a specific amount of energy to be lost. Again, as long as the total energy taken in is equal to and/or greater than the total energy going out, a person is maintaining and/or gaining energy which is life.
The atomic bomb is a good example of what happens when all the energy of a specific element is released all at once. Dr. Einstein set forth the mathematical model for this to occur. He issued a challenge to Dr. Reams which is described by Dr. Manthei, one of Dr. Reams' top students and teachers and my primary teacher in RBTI:
When Dr. Reams met and talked with Einstein, Dr. Einstein told him that he had found how to take a substance from A and move it to B, meaning how to take matter and completely dissolve it and release 100% of its energy into either E1 or E2 ... he ... challenged Dr. Reams with finding out how to take a substance from B and move it back to A. ... Dr. Reams discovered that no man is able to take a substance from B and move it back to A; however, what he discovered is that all biological life does this naturally. Living organisms can take E1 and E2 and combine them together to form M, Matter. Dr. Reams then went on to discover how plants, animals, and humans can do it under the least resistance and how to bring about the conditions in which the plants can yield the greatest harvest, how animals can be brought into top production, and how humans can be brought into perfect health. Health Through Diet by Dr., Joseph Manthei, Pages 27,28
In terms of the human body, what this means is that our bodies are designed to rebuild themselves every six months from the time we reach adulthood (20 years of age) throughout the rest of our life. Each and every cell of our body needs to be exchanged every six months and replaced with a new cell to keep the body in a state of homeostasis and thus have perfect health meaning its reserve energy is as high as it possibly can be which means it is never using more energy in a day than it takes in.--end of quote----Beginning of quote--Can the Reams Biological Theory of Ionization be understood by the average person?In a word, yes...but that is merely the start of a fascinating journey that touches into the very secrets of life itself.Starting in 1930, Carey Reams undertook a career in agriculture that soon had him comparing the growth, life, and death of plants to the same processes in animals and humans. Almost from the beginning he found that he could restore animals to high health levels by ensuring that they were given forage grown on mineral-rich soil. As the years rolled by, he developed more and more confidence that he could guide people away from almost any human malady by using an equation he had first developed for a small neighbor boy who suffered seizures1.Although the equation had started with a need for tests of all bodily fluids and excretions (blood, urine, saliva, perspiration, earwax, stool, lymph, hair, fingernails, skin scrapings, etc), Reams found much duplication and as the years passed was able to simplify the equation until a full analysis required only urine and saliva tests.During a visit to Princeton, Reams commented to Professor Einstein, "You have shown how matter can be taken apart. How can it be put together again?" According to the story, Einstein replied that he would leave the explanation of that to the much younger Reams.It was not long until Reams realized that cells were built by a process akin to electroplating instead of the still prevailing concept that cells endlessly divide. Reams' ionization theory opened up a view of cells being constructed, ion by ion, all the way down at the atomic level. This view fit perfectly with the health equation that Reams had developed long ago.And what was this view? Namely, that the God-given powers of the human body struggle unto death to maintain (or restore) perfect health (quantified by Reams as 100% Reserve Energy2). Even under extreme attack by the AMA, Reams never wavered with his teaching that the major factors working against perfect health were poor food quality, inadequate water, and negative mental disposition.And the factors used to build the famous equation for perfect health?-
An urine Brix (sugar) of 1.5---denoting an adequate energy level...
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An urine pH of 6.4---signifying a proper mineral balance in the body...
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A saliva pH of 6.4---pointing to sufficient digestive enzymes...
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An urine conductivity between 4200 and 4900 microsiemens---showing correct body electrolytes...
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An urine evaluation of 40,000 cellular particles per liter---verifying the replacement of worn-out cells...
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An urine concentration of 3 parts per million nitrate---which shows the body is not overwhelmed with toxicity
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An urine concentration of 3 parts per million ammonia---which speaks to prompt removal of this notorious metabolism byproduct...
Reams' equation has truly stood the test of time. It was understandable when first developed and it is understandable now. Many have found it to provide answers available nowhere else.--end of quote--WIEL- Re: What is RBTI? paraboy
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Hi WIEL,
I think I should have been more specific.
I disagree with this paragarph:
Important note: High urine pH is not good from any perspective and all the information floating around saying it is so is from the "alkalize alkalize alkalize" people - possibly because what they are selling - and key word is selling - will push urine pH to those extremes and they can say - "see how good our products work!" And of course if a person stays at those high levels too long they start having issues and the fallback becomes "you are detoxing, stick with the program". It is all a bunch of hooey.
I have not had the time to read thru all the documentation by Reams and i'm sure there is some validity to the above claim, but I don't see their proof. I would like to see the ph urine test done on someone that was consuming way too many minerals.
It would seem to me that their urine ph would be high?
Thanks,
Paraboy
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alkalizeforhealth.net does not recommend urine pH testing--Beginning of quote--People in North America tend to consume too much calcium and sodium and insufficient magnesium and potassium. This is often reflected in urine tests which show calcium and sodium being excreted while magnesium and potassium are being retained. (This is why we are not interested in urine pH. An alkaline urine simply shows that some alkaline minerals are being discarded by the body. Of much greater interest is the pH of saliva, which reflects your success in creating an alkaline condition within your body.)--end of quote--Even if the above were true, pH testing of urine would still be useful for detecting very acidic urine.WIEL- Re: What is RBTI? paraboy
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Hi WIEL,
I agree with you that both saliva and urine testing is benneficial in determining what's going on with the body.
Considering that I can raise my saliva ph, artificially, just by drinking some baking soda and water.
However, the urine ph may tell a different story?
thanks,
paraboy
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This is a reply to # 1,504,496Not generally a good idea.
If remineralization aids healing, and cleanses strip out minerals at an increased rate, they are working against each other!!!!
I did cleanses of various forms and at various frequencies for decades, and NO LONGER use them at all!!!! Just do not need them, and am doing much better over the last 2 1/2 years without them.
Def would not recommend often and repeated cleanses such as much of the rest of CZ seems so fond of. Where are their long-term success stories regarding overall health, not just immediate symptomatic relief???? I have found NONE!!!!
Have yet to see a situation where I would recommend any cleanse rather than the basics taught here.
Even gallbladder spasms respond to adding just a bit of ES to one's meals. Stones pass without the stress of a "cleanse", tho one may not see them.
NPN prob plays a major role in causing the problems that cleanses are attempting to solve. Better to eliminate or reduce it before becoming symptomatic and needing a cleanse????
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