Spudlydoo I believe grz is trying to balance this sordit business out.
Grz is putting gasoline on the fire by trying to make Moreless and his cult out to be victims. They are not the vicitms. The people injured by the protocol and relentlessly attacked and lied about for questioning Moreless or worse yet for proving him wrong over and over are the real victims. As far as I am concerned I used to have a lot of respect for Grz, but I have lost all that respect quickly because of his blaming the victims and trying to make out the aggressor as the real victim.
That sacred mirrors abound.
He's not making ML & friends out to be victims - he's saying that sacred mirrors are as fractured and complex as the people that choose to look into them or throw shards once it's been broken.
I guess that is a matter of opinion, but I still disagree. I see it as Grz making them out as victims. Again, here is the quote:
"It is unfortunate, however due to the constant persecution of ML and those who chose to follow his protocol, the forum did seem to degrade into that."
Now show me exactly where in this statement where he mentions the massive amount of persecution Moreless and his cult have committed on many other CZ posters. Persecution is not defending yourself against the constant barrage of lies and attacks by others. It is the act of the lies and attacks. In my case I have had to defend myself from persecution by the Moreless cult because it continued even when I tried to ignore Moreless and his supporters for a while. But after that while one gets tired of all the attacks and lies and decides to defend themselves. So how is this persecuting Moreless? To insinuate that this is persecuting the aggressor is nothing more than trying to make the aggressor look like the victim.
>It is most likely best that ML moves onto his own website and 'Private" (password protected) forum set up... and those who wish, can continue in peace away from the constant persecution of others... and perhaps, in a much more relaxed environment than here on CZ.<
This has become now an inescapable conclusion.
It is unfortunate, however due to the constant persecution of ML and those who chose to follow his protocol, the forum did seem to degrade into that
I am totally sick and tired of the Moreless cult playing the victim. They have persecuted people more than any other group I have seen. Just like Moreless created his own reality by constantly attacking others and lying about them. For example he has continued the lie about me that I called his followers who posted testimonials liars. I never did that and I explained to Moreless from early on what I really said and meant, but he still promoted the lie. I guess he feels that lying about others is God's will. So he created his own reality just as his followers who continue to attack and lie about people are doing. Tis your choice!