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Any remedy for those painful "knots" in muscle tissue.- Re: "Knots" in muscles refreshed
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This is a reply to # 1,415,454Peppermint oil massaged into the knot as often as necessary.
Edit: I assume you are talking about hard worked muscle knots and not a tumor or fatty cyst type of knot.- Re: "Knots" in muscles refreshed
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A very strong brand of peppermint oil (recommended by ML) is NOW 100% Pure & Natural.
It is stronger than some I have tried and really does a good job of penetrating deeply. Plus it comes in a large 4oz bottle. And of course the aromatherapy is very uplifting. - For some, these knots in muscles not... LD Di
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This is a reply to # 1,415,475but associated with inactivity, inability to move toxins, lack of many minerals in right ratio!
The baths, ES packs on the spot affected, can also help.
Of course, if the person does not address the underlying issues of food quality and proper activity, the lymphatic system will not do much to drain the acidic waste!
Wonder if clove oil will also work for those who prefer the smell???
May try it. I overdid a bit in my garden yesterday. Sure feels good to do hard work for 3-4 hours!
Have a blessed day!
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,415,491Way to go, 20928!
Take it easy, a bit at a time.
When I started using the ideas here, rebounding was absolutely out of the question.
I started with "angels" which is doing jumping jack motions to gently begin to encourage lymphatic movement and whole body skin brushing in conjunction with the alk baths. The now-defunct website had recommended these.
Another idea there was doing deep squats alternating with stretches. That was what I tackled next!
Hope that is helpful????
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,415,475No it's from tension doing desk work for prolonged time. I had my head tilted to the right while the right arm was up on the desk manipulating a tool. I've always had those knots around my neck shoulder area, but that only made it much much worse. Very sore and painful.
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Hi #20928,
Your question: Any remedy for those painful "knots" in muscle tissue.
Answer: We must always remember that when we get Tight muscles anywhere that this area of our body has become too Acidic !
Our overall pH may not show Excess Acidity, but our Reserves may have become too Low and not able to Neutralize the Excess Acids Created when we use certain Muscles, thus they may get Cramps , Charlie Horses or Knots as you mention?
I have always found that when my Calcium levels would drop too Low that I would have this problem even when I was taking extra Magnesium!
Example: As long as I had Top Quality Greens to eat from the garden which supplied enough Calcium and magnesium I would not have any problem(I didn't take the Alkalizing drink when I have Top Quality Greens to eat) !
Then if I would stop having these greens to eat and forget to start taking the Alkalizing Drink with plenty of Lime water I would get Cramps in my leg muscles !
This is a problem I have had since youth and Why I Seeked for the Truth as Why I had this problem !
As long as I added enough Lime water to the drink this would prevent any Cramps etc to my Muscles !
Of course I have Epsom Salt mixed in all the water I drink so am getting a source of Magnesium even when not eating Top Quality Greens, but it would be the Calcium I needed to Relax my Muscles !
This is another reason I laugh at the idea of some supposed Experts who Claim that Calcium Causes our Muscles to Contract, for if this was so I would have Never been able to Relax my Muscles !
The Key may be that we must have All of the needed Alkaline Minerals in their needed ranges of certain ratios to not have problems as this or other problems !
This leads us to ask ourself then when the foods we are eating are Lacking in the amount of Calcium we need because of their Poor Quality and NPN, is it any wonder Why we may have so many problems?
Cause and Effect !
Smile Tis your choice.
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This is a reply to # 1,415,480always seem to have NPN in my diet somewhere!
When I find the offending item/s and eliminate, things get better!
Sometimes, what we have LESS of is more important than what we have MORE of! - Re: --answer--"Knots" in muscles #20928
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This is a reply to # 1,415,480Should I do a bath soak with increased CH? I believe I can handle more CH in my bath water now.
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This is a reply to # 1,415,487Hi #20928,
Your question: Should I do a bath soak with increased CH? I believe I can handle more CH in my bath water now.
Answer: Try the basic Soak using just the Epsom Salt and Peroxide !
Adding More CH to the soak water may make the problem worse?
Do not use the CH in the soak, because your problem is coming from too much NPN !
This is another case where not everything may be as it may 1st seem to be !
Your 1st problem is getting rid of the NPN in your Diet !
The 2nd problem is getting rid of the NPN in your body and not Cause all your Ammonium Nitrogen in your body to convert into a Nitrate form !
Using CH in the Bath Soak may Cause the Nitrogen to convert from Ammonium into Nitrate? You may not want this in the Soak Bath when you are having a problem with Cramps in your Muscles !
There may be some conditions for some folks where the CH will help, but I would not start with it in my bath, if the Basic bath Soak of Peroxide and Epsom Salt will do the job?
Smile Tis your choice.
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I too had problems with cramps in my youth. My cramps were mainly in my feet. Shoes with high heels caused me much grief. How many people have experienced having to jump out of bed in the middle of the night and pull back on your toes to relieve it?
Worse memory of it was when I was swimming with swimming fins on. Between the cramp and the fact that I couldn't hardly get the tight fins off to relieve the cramp, proved to be a scarey time to be in the water. (#53126 swimming comment made me think of it)
It's been a long time since I have had any problems like that. How nice.
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This is a reply to # 1,415,454Those knots in your muscles are small muscles spasms. everyone here has already addressed some of the possible causes. However, detoxing, etc takes time, and in the mean time, you can find relief.
You need to "deactivate" the muscle spasm. What you need to do is pinpoint the exact location of the knot, not just the general area.. but the exact site of the knot. you will know you find it because you will feel the hard knot below your fingers and as you move over the top of it, it will pop out from beneath your fingers.
Once you locate it, you need to get right up on top of the knot, and apply consistant pressure... as much as you can comfortable tolerate. you may have to continue to relocated the knot, because, the knot will tend to wriggle out from under your fingers.. or pop away from where the pressure is. Just have patience and keep relocating it, and get right up on top of it. When you are exactly on the spot, and applying the right amount of pressure, you will get that "oooo it hurts so good" kind of feeling. just keep applying pressure. it can take some time to deactivate the knot. some of them get deactivate with 5 minutes of pin point pressure.. and others take 20-30 minutes. if you get tired. work it for a while, then take a break and come back.
btw.. if you are on your own, and the knot is in a hard to reach place, like a shoulder blade... a tennis ball can do wonders. put the tennis ball between your back, and a wall.. then you move around until you can feel the tennis ball over the knot, then press your back into the tennis ball. (putting the tennis ball in a sock will help you move it around easier)
I just wanted to tell you that I had the most extreme muscles knots.. from a combination of working everyday on a computer... and then unbelieveable emotional stress due to a family member who was seriously ill. The knots in my shoulders and back were so bad, that I was losing feeling in my hands wasn't sleeping, and was in serious pain. This is the technique that a fantastic massage therapist used on me... and a few sessions with her, and all my knots were completely gone...
In the mean time.. detox.. get healthy.. :)- Re: "Knots" in muscles refreshed
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Hey willowwisp, great suggestion for the immediate help. I too have used such technques to help with the pain. Stick around and read how to get to the core of the problem.
You can learn alot by reading the Recommended posts found in the upper portion of this page and by using the search engine in this forum.
Also you can read the testimonies of many people who have found health using these protocols. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1028760#i
Here are the protocols for the drink and the baths. I hope this will give you a good start to learning about pH balancing.
Here is the Moreless protocol that Evanluck lovingly put together for everyone.
The basic protocol as outlined in this forum is as follows:
Stop all eating habits that promote excess acidity
This includes eating:
any refined sugars (sugar, high fructose corn syrup etc.)
any refined starches (white bread, white rice, anything made with white flour)
any artificial chemicals (preservatives, artificial sweeteners etc.)
any protein or grains 4-6 hours before you go to sleep
80% of your diet should consist of top-quality, locally grown, seasonal fruits and vegetables with an emphasis on green leafy vegetables (cabbage, broccoli, kale, cauliflower, non-iceberg lettuce, spinach etc.). You can purchase a refractometer and start testing the BRIX (amount of complexed carbohydrates) level of the foods that you purchase. This will allow you to begin to pick better quality produce.
20% of your diet can be whole grains and high quality protein sources like cold-water wild caught fish (i.e. Alaskan salmon or sardines), high quality eggs, non-homogenized dairy.
Do a series of enemas to clean out your digestive system. The one moreless recommends is water with a small amount of Apple Cider Vinegar.
Following the enemas take some probiotics. First thing in the morning, drink a glass of water. Then take the probiotics (one with a high billion count 8+ and with both Bifidus Bacterium and Acidophilus) along with a glass of skim milk. [edit added on 11-09-07]
Buy some PH strips and start testing your saliva at set times during the day (first thing in the morning and approximately an hour after each meal) to get an idea of the relative quality of your foods and how your body reacts to different kinds of foods.
Drink plenty of clean water slowly throughout the day.
Supplement your diet with mineral rich foods:
Alkalyzing Drink: the juice of 1/4-1/2 of a lemon, 1-6 or more (start out slow) Tablespoons of Pickling Lime Water (1 Tablespoon of Pickling Lime diluted into 1 Gallon of Distilled Water), 1-3 Tablespoons of Blackstrap Molasses, 1 Tablespoon of high quality, cold water kelp
Sip this drink slowly throughout the day. You can start out with one drink per day and scale up slowly to as many as your body reacts positively to.
Take a pinch of Epsom Salt with each Meal.
Accelerate with Akalyzing Baths:
Take a hot bath (as hot as you can stand it) with the following ingredients:
2 Pounds of Epsom Salts
1 Pound of Baking Soda
1-2 Quarts of Hydrogen Peroxide (edit by refreshed: 3% Hydrogen peroxide)
Soak in the bath for as long as you can stand it (start out with shorter period of time like 15 mins. and slowly work up to longer periods of time).
Finish up with a cold shower.
If you are very sick you may not be able to take the baths initially. If not then you can reduce the ingredients and do a foot soak with the same ingredients in the same proportion.
Learn to choose a positive outlook on life and positive thoughts. Find things everyday that you can be grateful for. Spend time in prayer and meditation. Refuse to worry about things that you are unable to control or are unwilling to take action to change.
This is the general protocol. Each person is different so you need to learn to listen to your body and make adjustments within these principles to find what works best for your body.
Ask questions where you are unclear. There is lots of experience and wisdom on this forum.
God Bless You and Guide You on Your Way to Better Health - Re: "Knots" in muscles refreshed
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This is a reply to # 1,415,514Your comment: btw.. if you are on your own, and the knot is in a hard to reach place, like a shoulder blade... a tennis ball can do wonders. put the tennis ball between your back, and a wall.. then you move around until you can feel the tennis ball over the knot, then press your back into the tennis ball. (putting the tennis ball in a sock will help you move it around easier)"
Another thing I use to do was use an old wooden walking cane that had the curled handle. I could easily get to difficult places with it and not have to burden my husband all the time to ask for his help.
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removing stuff from your body, this will ONLY help if you have enough of all the alkaline minerals in beneficial ratios.
Stick around the Ask Moreless forum to learn what the most important thing to remove is,
And how to quickly, easily, inexpensively replenish your mineral reserves.
Also how to get beyond needing to do flushes and fight parasites!!!
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- Re: "Knots" in muscles grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,415,454An interesting personal experience...
I had a kilo of MSM powder (sulfur) around that I had only briefly experimented with, and then shelved.
I decided, after much reading to start utilizing the MSM again rather than throw it away.
I "seemed" to slowly become more mobile and flexible with the MSM in addition to the protocol here... however thought to myself while doing this that... well, I am getting the sulfur from the epsom salts and foods so I do not need to continue this once I finish the MSM.
So when it was gone, I stopped... months went by... then I also, after about a few months, took a 4 week hiatus from the ES\alkalizing baths...
guess what? I SLOWLY became stiffer and my calf muscles and knees slowly started to "ache" once again...
I made the connection, thought about it for several days and then took an ES bath... feeling much better the following day... I remembered an old timer that told me he could not move one day to the next without an ES bath every day. I then went and bought a small jar of MSM from my favorite independent Health Food Store... and took a body weight measured dose.
In less than two days, I am back to where I was before all of this... I must have spent my "reserve" sulfur.
I have always craved high sulfur containing foods and even developed a stronger craving for these foods in the absence of the MSM and ES baths.
Apparently, I need more sulfur than I can get through the ES alone without developing the runs, so the baths and MSM will remain a big part of the whole picture for me until the next time I decide to take a "break" and experiment.
YMMV as we are all different.
I need to do more research now on sulfur needs and retention...
grz-
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This is a reply to # 1,415,524Hi Grz,
Your post: An interesting personal experience...
I had a kilo of MSM powder (sulfur) around that I had only briefly experimented with, and then shelved.
I decided, after much reading to start utilizing the MSM again rather than throw it away.
I "seemed" to slowly become more mobile and flexible with the MSM in addition to the protocol here... however thought to myself while doing this that... well, I am getting the sulfur from the epsom salts and foods so I do not need to continue this once I finish the MSM.
So when it was gone, I stopped... months went by... then I also, after about a few months, took a 4 week hiatus from the ES\alkalizing baths...
guess what? I got SLOWLY got stiffer and my calf muscles and knees slowly started to "ache" once again...
I made the connection, thought about it for several days and then took an ES bath... feeling much better the following day... I remembered an old timer that told me he could not move one day to the next without an ES bath every day. I then went and bought a small jar of MSM from my favorite independent Health Food Store... and took a body weight measured dose.
In less than two days, I am back to where I was before all of this... I must have spent my "reserve" sulfur.
I have always craved high sulfur containing foods and even developed a stronger craving for these foods in the absence of the MSM and ES baths.
Apparently, I need more sulfur than I can get through the ES alone without developing the runs, so the baths and MSM will remain a big part of the whole picture for me until the next time I decide to take a "break" and experiment.
YMMV as we are all different.
I need to do more research now on sulfur needs and retention...
grz-
Answer: What you have shared maybe I can shed some Light on Why?
Sulfur may help Regulate Nitrogen and keep it from turning into the Isotope of Nitrate or Nitrite !
Sulfur also may form Sulfuric Acid which may help Release needed Electro-magnetic Energy from any Alkaline Minerals in our food?
All plants High in Sulfur may have the ability to have more stored Alkaline Minerals if they be of Top Quality because of the Sulfurs Power?
If the needed Alkaline Minerals are not present or cannot be made present from our Reserves of our Bone structure and or the foods we are eating, then an Excess of Sulfur may add to our problems and make us even more Acidic and Cause more problems?
It is all about Harmony between the needed Acids and needed Alkaline Minerals bound in a Live CArbons source to Stablize the Electro-magnetic Energy release to Power our bodys without the end results of Pain and Sufferings because of Dis-harmony !
Cause and Effect !
Smile Tis your choice.
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This is a reply to # 1,415,536ML: "If the needed Alkaline Minerals are not present or cannot be made present from our Reserves of our Bone structure and or the foods we are eating, then an Excess of Sulfur may add to our problems and make us even more Acidic and Cause more problems?"
I'm so glad you added this because I had the opposite effect with MSM than Grz had and was wondering why. Of course I tried it back before I started the ML protocol. I probably would not have any problem with it now.
I agree with Grz, that I use to have cravings for sulfur foods. Mainly onions all the time.
I also notice that I don't crave chocolate anymore....matter of fact I don't even like chocolate. I think I get plenty of magnesium now and that is why I don't care for it any longer.
I seem to be a vanilla girl...especially vanilla extract in everything.
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