Kelp and Fluoride 
#84437
15 y
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Hi Moreless,
I'm not sure if you remember, but I mentioned a while back that my hubby has developed tinnitus. He has been doing the alkalizing drink with lemon, the calcium hydroxide, BSM and the kelp with the epsom salts with water during the day. The tinnitus has not improved so far, but it does get quieter at times and then very loud at times.
Anyway, I was recently reading here on curezone that iodine can free up the fluoride which then can cause the tinnitus to be worse. I always thought the iodine in the kelp helped to remove the fluoride from the body....is this not correct?
The tinnitus really bothers him and so I did an experiment without him knowing so he wasn't influenced in any way to see if the kelp was affecting the tinnitus....I haven't given him the kelp for two days now. I asked him how the noise was and he said it was quieter...arrgh...so I really want him to have the kelp for his health, but I don't want him to suffer with this tinnitus either. I'm hoping this was just a coincidence.
Maybe, the kelp needs to "free up" the fluoride to remove it from the body so that he can eventually get rid of this problem, but if it's just freeing it up an not removing it allowing it to reek havoc in his system then that's not good either. I'm just a little confused as to what to do for him now. Any help you or anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Striveon
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- Re: Kelp and Fluoride LD Di
15 y
4,503
MoreThis is a reply to # 1,337,926Hi, Striveon!
One thing to consider with the kelp is that it is not an either/or on/off thing, but can be worked into gradually. At first, I tolerated much less kelp than i do now, sometimes better without for a day or two, or used every other day. One just has to keep tweaking the amounts.
How much for each ingredient are you using in your hubby's drink?
Does he drink it once a day, or more?
How is he responding in other respects?
I have no comment on statements made at the iodine forum. I have never chosen to read posts or to participate there. If grz is around, perhaps he can address this? He seems to have extensive experience both there and here.
Di
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- Re: Kelp and Fluoride refreshed
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,337,926Striveon, I have had tinnitus in one ear for many years. I have done both iodine alone, iodine with the ML protocol and just the ML protocol. Nothing has done away with the ringing. It has always been loud sometimes and more quite at other times, even before I tried any protocols.
As far as fluoride goes, the calcium in the drink slowly takes care of any excess fluoride. I wish I had a better testimony to give you. Just thought you should know. - --answer--Kelp and Fluoride moreless
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This is a reply to # 1,337,926Hi Striveon,
Your question: Hi Moreless,
I'm not sure if you remember, but I mentioned a while back that my hubby has developed tinnitus. He has been doing the alkalizing drink with lemon, the calcium hydroxide, BSM and the kelp with the epsom salts with water during the day. The tinnitus has not improved so far, but it does get quieter at times and then very loud at times.
Anyway, I was recently reading here on curezone that iodine can free up the fluoride which then can cause the tinnitus to be worse. I always thought the iodine in the kelp helped to remove the fluoride from the body....is this not correct?
The tinnitus really bothers him and so I did an experiment without him knowing so he wasn't influenced in any way to see if the kelp was affecting the tinnitus....I haven't given him the kelp for two days now. I asked him how the noise was and he said it was quieter...arrgh...so I really want him to have the kelp for his health, but I don't want him to suffer with this tinnitus either. I'm hoping this was just a coincidence.
Maybe, the kelp needs to "free up" the fluoride to remove it from the body so that he can eventually get rid of this problem, but if it's just freeing it up an not removing it allowing it to reek havoc in his system then that's not good either. I'm just a little confused as to what to do for him now. Any help you or anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Striveon
Answer: Top Quality Kelp has it's minerals & iodine bound in a Complex Carbohydrate, thus it cannot be compared with Elememtal Iodine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elemental Iodine may act as a Poison if one Lacks the needed Alkaline Minerals and Live Carbons to Buffer it?
Flouride like Chloride may be Neutralized and or made of little damage in the presents of enough Calcium and Oxygen and Live Carbons may help Buffer any other Bad effects?
One can take water that has been treated with Flouride and Chloride and spray it into the Air and the Oxygen in the Air may convert them into a Gas form and allow then to evaporate from the water?
If one was using the Lamanaria Digitata Kelp that is Very High in Iodine and Potassium and the person was Low in Sodium, this may Cause a problem?
In this case the Ascophyllum nodosum Kelp may be a Better choice?
Cause and Effect !
Smile Tis your choice.- Thank you LD Di, Refreshed and Morel... #84437
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,337,962Thank you all for your help. Refreshed, I'm so sorry you have had this same problem as well....I know how frusterating it is for my hubby so I truly feel for you.
Moreless, the Lamanaria Digitata Kelp is what we are using. So I will order the other kelp asap. I will give him much smaller amounts in the mean time...he was getting 1 tsp per day so I will lower that to 1/2 tsp until the other kelp arrives.
He is taking usually 2 drinks per day these days, but sometimes only 1 drink.
Thanks again for your input....it's truly appreciated.
Striveon
EDIT: I just wanted to mention that I found the information on iodine on the Tinnitus Forum- Re: Thank you LD Di, Refreshed and M... refreshed
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,005Don't lose hope. Just because it hasn't helped me yet doesn't mean that in time it will not be better. I was just giving you an idea of my time frame (2 yrs) and let you know that a strong elemental iodine did not help either. Even though I am now taking the Ascophyllum kelp, it may not be enough time to do it's job because I switch to the Laminaria in the spring and then back again in winter.
ML: If a person is having problems with tinnitus, should one see that as a sign to stay on Ascolphyllum even in the spring/summer? I have been more concerned about sodium/potassium balance at the right times of the year. Getting rid of feeling too hot in the heat was more important to me than the tinnitus was.- --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- moreless
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,072Hi refreshed,
Your question: Don't lose hope. Just because it hasn't helped me yet doesn't mean that in time it will not be better. I was just giving you an idea of my time frame (2 yrs) and let you know that a strong elemental iodine did not help either. Even though I am now taking the Ascophyllum kelp, it may not be enough time to do it's job because I switch to the Laminaria in the spring and then back again in winter.
ML: If a person is having problems with tinnitus, should one see that as a sign to stay on Ascolphyllum even in the spring/summer? I have been more concerned about sodium/potassium balance at the right times of the year. Getting rid of feeling too hot in the heat was more important to me than the tinnitus was.
Answer: The Sodium Potassium ratios may be of 1st Importance when choosing Kelp and everything else may follow?
Cause and Effect !
Smile Tis your choice.- Re: --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- refreshed
15 y
4,392
This is a reply to # 1,338,080Thank you. I feel I have found much success in using these protocols but the head area is slower to improve on for some reason. I really don't have too many areas that need fixing except my ear, eyes and probably some more work on healing brain lesions. (won't know until another MRI)
Everything else comes up good. Is striving for complete physical wholeness doable in this lifetime?
edit: I forgot to add that I also have military neck. That is close enough to the head area but the spine spurs went away so really it is now just a structure problem.- Re: --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- #84437
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,084I think you're doing really well Refreshed...it seems you've come a very long way with improving your health. I won't give up hope and will keep using the Moreless Protocol and also search for other possibilities that may be linked to the tinnitus. I truly hope you find a cure as well...if we find something that helps in any way we will definitely post to let you know.
Striveon:) - Did bone spurs in yr neck go away on... #53126
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,084Would be good if separate post gives details, especially if you have x ray or other proof before and after.
Many have been told such conditions are hopeless and cannot be reversed!- Yes, here is my testimony refreshed
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,217http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1151940
Hey Styleman, I wanted to say that I had good results with just using the Moreless alkalizing drink, baths, and using a refractometer to pick better fruits and veggies. I also add juicing. I normally get an xray of my neck by my chiropractor once a year. The year before starting this protocal I showed spurs forming and the next year they were gone. I do not take any medications and nothing had been added or changed in my diet other than adding these changes.
Healing seems to come easy once you have the truth of what makes us ill and what to do about it. I wish you well on your journey. :)
Edit: I would also like to say that this last year I had another xray and the bone spurs are still gone. So I feel positive that the ML protocols are the reason. The military neck is starting to get some curve, but still has a ways to go before it has a normal amount of curve. Otherwise my neck and spine are in good condtion with no damage.
- Great update! n/m LD Di 15 y 4,231
- Yes, here is my testimony refreshed
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- Re: --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- #84437
15 y
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- Re: --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- refreshed
15 y
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- --Sodium/Potassium ratios-- moreless
15 y
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- Re: Thank you LD Di, Refreshed and M... refreshed
15 y
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- Thank you LD Di, Refreshed and Morel... #84437
15 y
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- Re: Kelp and Fluoride grzbear
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,337,926Here is a search in the iodine debate forums for fluoride... you will be busy for a while if you read through those threads.
http://curezone.com/forums/search.asp?q=fluoride&action=Find&f=798
Do NOT get hung up on people's views, even my own, that this or that will remove fluoride from your body... some of the posts on the topic are somewhat misleading, and in some cases, IMO, flat out wrong.
Avoid man introduced\added chemicals, like fluoride, that we know create problems, in part due to the poor available food, as best you can and then, do not worry about them. IF you are doing everything else to eat and live right, you will eventually clean out just fine.
Here is another thought for you... EMFs... and tinnitus. Any electrical appliances, or wiring in and around your bed? How about the bedroom in general?
"Sufferers report headaches, nausea, stomach upsets, tinnitus, brain fog and short-term memory among the symptoms, Read said. Skeptics, however, suspect that blaming EMF sensitivity for their ills amounts to an easy answer to almost any medical problem.
"There is no known mechanism by which EMF from any source -- power lines, cell phones or Wi-Fi networks -- can cause health problems of any kind," said Michael Shermer, publisher of Skeptic magazine. "In fact, there is nothing that even needs explaining.""
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/12/72265
I would not rule this out, dependent upon occupation and environment exposure. We can minimize issues by going barefoot and contacting with the ground...
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1336113#i
I am of the belief though, that we create a stronger resistance or "immunity" to EMFs when we are sound nutritionally and metabolically... not that there should not be concern and caution.
grz-
- Re: Kelp and Fluoride #84437
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,338,158Thank you so much Grz! I will read through the threads you recommended. That's very interesting about the EMFs....I never considered that before so I will definitely investigate that as well.
Thank you for taking the time to reply and posting the links for me:)
Striveon - Avoid toxins where possible, do not ... #53126
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This is a reply to # 1,338,158Am gradually getting better without having to do expensive and complicated stuff.
IMHO, try Moreless protocol first, then if you are not getting better after rally spending some time and effort here, cautiously consider other stuff in addition.
You may be pleasantly surprised and save lots of time and money by starting here!
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