I'm sorry too I got involved in this conflict. It just is wrong! I have deleted all of my post and I hope the next time there is a conflict I am at the doctor, lol. Adrian write to your wife, she feel bad. I just wrote to her too.

I have dealt with Charlie too. If you look at
his archive, the way this site is set up, you
will NOT see ALL the hidden and deleted messages
he generated. He is banned from a number of
forums himself and of course the worst of his
foolishness is not to be found in the archives.
I think however, that you would be better served
to read Charlie's posting history before you
would pass final judgment on those who see his
behavior as red flags. Anyway, from my personal
experience, relative to Charlie's posting in
the Master-Cleanse forum, which is now hidden or deleted, I
would not put any faith in the man myself.
Many other posts, for those of us following
along, also raise questions and do not reflect
well on someone claiming to be as educated as he
is claiming.

About anger issues....HA~! anger is one of the
indications of a congested liver and would mean
that work is needed. Liver Flushing is a very
effective way to deal with these strong emotions,
but then again, Charlie disses any form of alternative
treatment which does not include use of his liver tonic.

For all any of us really know he IS merely what DQ has
observed him to be, someone looking for a quick buck.
We can only hope people are being helped. The proof
will be all the success stories he will have amassed
in six months to a year. Of course, it is guaranteed
that if there is anyone who is NOT happy with his tonic
and his treatment of them, chances are those posts will
not see the light of day. The post of the original
poster was only put here because he had posted it to
Dr. Sutter's forum. If he had posted in Charlie's
forum, it would have been hidden in a skinny second.
So, in the end no one should base Charlie's success
on his lack of people who did not find his tonic
helpful. Chances are close to 100% we will never see
any posts which are anything but those which put
Charlie up on a pedestal (note his avatar...ggg).

Actually, then I saw this post~~

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1221806#i

and I laughed out loud since I had to think, that
Charlie MUST NOT be using his own tonic as he has
such strong emotional issues. Furthermore, if he was
someone, like David, asking Charlie for help, Charlie
would dismiss himself and refuse to treat himself since
he surely would "push his own buttons" and not be
able to "handle" the negative emotions...haa haa haa.

So anyway, I will stand by DQ and do so respectfully.
You can stand by your man too, the man who disrespects
people and degrades and belittles them. How many healers,
herbalists, doctors, or friends have you met who act as
impulsively rude as Charlie does?? For example, calling
DQ a drag queen is really mature isn't it?? Charlie
cannot rest on his own laurels so must call anyone who
looks him in the eye names.

In the end, when the house of cards falls down, at least
some of us can say we tried to warn others to be more
discerning. That you can read through a thread like this
one~~

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1201200#i

and still embrace Charlie as an authority on health and
healing is telling. It tells me that you need to find
out truth on your own and in the end will make your own
determination. While this is all good, hopefully you will
also realize there ARE reasons why Charlie has illicited
such responses. We have plenty of other private forums
owners who have not garnered the attention and disdain
Charlie has.

I wish you success in your own healing journey~~

best wishes,
Zoe

-_-