- This is what Happened, Southern Belle by YourEnchantedGardener
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Blog: Plant Your Dream!
I received this message today from
Southern Belle. Thank you so much for writing me!
I have been out today recovering some images on a friends PC.
I just got home.
Here is The Message:
From: Southern Belle
To: YourEnchantedGardener
Date: 3/13/2006 2:38:47 PM
Subject:Question
Reference URL:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=704&i=483
Hi!
Would you mind explaining to me (a moderator) exactly what happened? I have been trying to make sense of the turmoil that is brewing in the "Webmaster Forum" but I don't understand. You have a blog.
Right? But, did Lapis or Wrenn contact you that it was not right?
I am just trying to see things clearly, as well a moderator7 and we are in the dark right now.
Thanks.
Paulette
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First of all, Southern Belle, I want to say that I absolutely
love Curezone. IT is a highly important and very significant
part of my daily life.
I have been writing my Blog for well over a year.
I am totally honored to be writing here and being
read here.
I am not attached to having any links from my Curezone blog to
any other websites that I have learned to create.
There are some wonderful stories and poems, as well
as art and spiritual documents that can be purchased on some
of my sites. I also have a site called Getting Hip, that shares
some of my journey through Hip Revisions. The intent is to
uplift and help others who are going through surgeries with inspiration.
If you look around on my front page you will see a link to a story
about how Robert Muller, then Undersecretary General of the UN
gave me a Peace Medal for the work I would do in my life.
My spiritual father is Bernard Jensen, who I wrote books for years ago.
He helped me set my foundation in natural health. I am also an Essene
Minister, but to keep it simple I call myself Your Enchanted Gardener.
A few days ago, I wrote a blog to Lapis. I was very impressed with
a 12 step book I have been using in a group. I was thinking that I would
like to start writing about questions in the book on my blog, so I wrote
to Lapis through my blog. I asked him how can we get this book
on the Curezone list of books offered. I was thinking maybe Curezone
could make some money from selling this book in the Amazon referral program.
In the moment, that I wrote that blog to Lapis, I did not see how books
get recommended for sale on Curezone. I was coming from a place
of wanting to help Curezone earn some money from this book. I even
mentioned Donations to Curezone in that Blog, and I was feeling gratitude
for all I have received.
Here is my Blog that I wrote:
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=92&i=1339
Lapis responded with a Comment of my Blog.
You can see his comment here.
http://curezone.com/blogs/c/c.asp?d=6088
In part it reads:
Subject: Regarding "Love Cures" Book
From: Lapis | All Lapis's Messages |
Date: 3/12/2006 3:18:57 AM ( 41 h ago ) ...
Hi Leslie. The only thing I can tell you is that blogs aren't for promoting commercial enterprizes. In fact bloggers risk having their blog removed entirely, when doing this, as laid out in the blog posting guidlines. Also driving people to personal websites is also frowned upon by the webmaster. Blogs were intended to share personal experiences (without commercial intent) or for sharing relelvant health...awareness information to curezone members.
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When I read this, I started to get nervous.
I have a tendency to be very unfocused in many areas of my life
and writing. I have been focusing for numbers of months on
a series of Love Cures. I do write copy about the Love Cures.
They are poems intended to help men understand women.
They have a deep Soul intent. Sometimes, I quote from them
in my blog. I have been doing that increasingly.
Lots of times on my blog, I will write copy for projects.
I have friends here who I feel give me great encouragement
about my photos and thoughts.
The truth for me is...inspite of all the linking I do to my main site,
or whatever site of mine I am linking to, I have never received
one single sale from CureZone, and few from anywhere else
to this point. I imagine this is because the people who visit
Curezone do not buy things. Many of us are here for healing.
They are all doctored out, and this is an opportunity from me
to give back and educate.
The majority of my blogs, as far as I see, are based on speaking
from a place of how I am authentically feeling. I do this because
it is my way to uplift others. I believe that if I can succeed as
a writer, as a person, in spite of all my flaws, cracks, and shortsightedness,
then maybe others will be inspired to do the same.
The other side of me is highly inspired, and I often write about
this too on my blog. Sometimes, I will share some of my photos
from my garden where i live in community in San Diego.
For the most part I live a very hermetic life at home. Curezone
is like one of my most important outlets for communicating to the world.
I would not intentional abuse or misuse the guidelines of Curezone.
I simple have to admit, I was not paying attention to the rules.
I also was under the impression that the job of the moderators
or webmasters was to look at the things we write. I thought
that Lapis or others read my blogs. In some place inside me,
I thought if something was wrong with the way I was doing things,
one of the moderators would have contacted me and let me know
a long time ago. It was the one who reached out to Lapis.
I reached out to Wrenn, wanting to know if I was doing something
wrong.
I am always into improving myself. As soon as Lapis wrote me,
I started to wonder if I had been out of line.
I wrote back another Blog Comment here.
http://curezone.com/blogs/c/c.asp?d=6095
I asked for Lapis to look over one of my other Blogs
to make sure I was not out of line. I was being proactive.
I wanted to know. This is what I wrote:
Subject: Re: Regarding "Love Cures" Book
From: YourEnchantedGardener < Send email to YourEnchantedGardener > | All YourEnchantedGardener's Messages |
Date: 3/12/2006 7:52:27 PM ( 26 h ago ) ...
Lapis,
I want to make sure I am within the guidelines
of Curezone.
Please take a look at his blog and let me know.
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=92&i=1343
Thanks for your support.
Appreciate all you do."
I was very concerned, so I emailed Lapis, and CC'd Wrenn. I have
had a cordial relationship with Wrenn and appreciate her help very
much in the past.
My email did not go through to Lapis as far as I know.
Wrenn wrote back twice, asking me why I cc'ed her
on something that was addressed to Lapis. I was wanting
Wrenn to give me some feedback as well. I wanted to know
if I was doing anything out of line.
Wrenn wrote be a comment
that you can read here;
http://curezone.com/blogs/c/c.asp?d=6099
She pointed out that I was breaking a lot of rules.
I apologize.
At that point, I went to the Forums to see if I could reach Lapis
or Wrenn. I went to my Profile, and immediately attempted
to DELETE my links to any of my sites. I could not get the
Profite to Undate (Mercury Retrograde????)
I tried over and over. I went to the Forums, and have asked three
times for help deleting my links. I could see from what Wrenn was
saying that this was breaking the rules. I said in the forums
that I wanted to know the rules.
I want to say, that I seldom go to the Forums. I do not know
the forum rules. I have never read Andreas or the other teachers.
I was shocked to hear that Wrenn thought my intent in doing
my Plant Your Dream blog was to sell something.
I wish I knew how to sell something. I do o.k. at conferences
as a teacher, or ceremonial leader making Enchanted Gardens
in hotels and sacred spaces that are Altars at conferences.
I am learning, but up to this point, I do not understand internet
marketing, or that is what my results so far show.
with my links, I have never sold one thing to a person from Curezone.
I came to the conclusion that sometimes people would go and look
at my sites. This made me feel good, but that was my gain there.
I started to learn to build my sites a few years ago, before I started
to Blog. I finally know how to build a shopping cart, and I iplan
to learn how to make internet sales.
I have to say, however, that it is not important to me,
if anyone from Curezone buys anything. My internet marketing
is going to be an outreach to those who want my art or poetry.
What I do here is practice and to get feedback on my copy.
This is our family, and I am grateful for all the support i get here
as well as being able to support and uplift.
I very much want to keep writing my Blog.
This is very, very important for my mental health
and well being.
I want feedback from the moderators, if I do anything
off line as far as the rules, and I am willing to study and
ask questions about the guidelines.
As I said, I have been asking three or more times already for help
in deleting my web links that appear on the top of my Blog.
I do not need them there.
Writing the Blog is 100 x more important to me that making
any kind of sale here.
I do not know how the other teachers work in the Curezone.
I would like to learn.
I am willing to learn how the Forums work, and what is/is not
the place to post. I started to go through my old blogs
last night, and made a few links in the webmasters forum
where the discussion was happening about the rules
I broke. My intent was to
balance out the idea that I am here to make a buck. Please.
I am more than willing to make regular donations to Curezone
for all the good I get here. I feel we all need to do this.
I am willing to be Your Enchanted Gardering as I am for
many people around the world who join the Enchanted Garden Club.
My donation button is for them, not anyone here.
I am willing to gift Curezone, use of some of my spiritual documents
to earn money, if you would like that, or create art for Curezone.
I am willing to give you precious photos of Bernard Jensen,
my spiritual father, that have never been publshed anywhere.
You have his Bowel Cleansing book up on line. I was his
photographer for 20 years.
Below is the original letter than I composed and sent to Lapis
and Wrenn.
I very much appreciate getting to know our Curezone family.
All families have growing pains and have to look at how we do things
from time to time.
Much love and appreciation
for all you do and your significant
contribution to educating,
rather than medicating.
I am one with you in that,
Your Enchanted Gardener,
Leslie
Letter I emailed to Lapis and Wrenn,
yesterday or so:
Hi Wrenn, it wasn't a mistake.
I was wanting to make sure I was on the right page,
and working within the guidelines. That is why I cc'ed you.
I would not want to jeopardize my blog being
on the site. I would appreciate if you would
read over this below and also my blog
and make sure I am within the guidelines.
http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=92&i=1341
I want to write about my personal experience succeeded with These
Seven Love Cures. I do not care if people on the Curezone buy them.
I do not need to link to them. Please read Lapis comment on my site.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Lapis comment on "Love Cures."
thank you, Ami
Leslie
Your Enchanted Gardener
on 3/12/06 12:11 PM, Wrenn at wrenn@curezone.com wrote:
I think you sent me a cc by mistake.
Love,
Ami
On 3/12/06, Your Enchanted Gardener > wrote:
Lapis...I wanted to express more about the healing process
I am in and how my blog helps.
I have not yet had a commercial success with any of
my books or writings. I would like this to change.
I have written a lot of books.
Most of them are now one of a kind. I wrote them
as part of my self-healing.
The greatest good I imagine I could do right now
would be to take one body of writing, and get the
out in the world. That is what I am doing.
I have been going through a lot of changes,
as I imagine many of us in the Curezone.
In my Mind's eye, I imagine I am part of a very supportive
community here. As a writer, I live a very hermetic life
when I am not out at conferences. I am out of conferences
on rare occasions, and hermetic a lot of time.
When I get my morning inspirations, I like to write about
whatever is coming up, including copy for the project.
I like to share the little successes I am having with
that product being received and appreciated.
I have never made a single sale of anything I write
about on Curezone. Some folks go to my sites
and from time to time I get a comment that tells me
what I am doing is being read.
I feel like I have some team players here on the Curezone
who give me feedback. It makes me feel good to get these
feedbacks, and for someone to say, "Gee that is a beautiful
photo of a salad. IT make me hungry!"
Some times, I like to write about products that others are
selling or books that I find interesting. I like to single out
Heart and Soul in the natural food industry, and let others
here know what is a good product or project.
In my mind's eye, I imagine I have a team cheerleader for me
here, and sometimes I ask for feedback, as I would ask
an editor. "How do you like this?"
It all makes me feel more whole, less alone.
I like people in the Curezone to go visit my sites.
Most of my projects are philanthropic, and about the
uplifting of humanity. There is a spiritual intent behind
most of the writings I put out, when I am not writing
about my own self healing. I want to uplift others.
I want to uplift myself and heal others as they see
how one person, broken is different ways, pulls
a life together.
Can you help me find the balance of how I can
write about my progress succeeding and sharing
about these poem plaques I am now selling without it
being seem like my purpose is to drive business to my site?
Regarding the book I wanted to promote....
it is a book on the 12 steps written by someone else.
I am using it. I thought perhaps if it was in the Curezone list,
as I wrote about some questions in that book, perhaps
others might want to have their own copy of the book.
I thought that maybe this would make some money
for CureZone.
I wasn't talking about selling my own book here,
which is not even written.
I would not in any way want to jeopardize my relationship
with Curezone by breaking any of our rules.
Any clarity would be appreciated.
I do not need to drive business to my site from here....
as I said, I have never really experienced anyone from here
making any kind of purchase, but I do enjoy writing
about my progress and experiences with The Seven Love Cures.
What do you suggest?
best regards,
and thanks for your good works.
Leslie,
Your Enchanted Gardener
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- I don't get it by ren
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| I am totally on your side. I don't get the issues myself but your blog is greatly appreciated.
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- I'm with you, Ren... by Southern Belle
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Hello Bloggers,
Well, this is a first for me....The first time I have been in this section of curezone and the first time I have responded to a blog. I would never have come over to "this side" if all that uproar had not been stirred up today, but I am so glad it happened because I now feel like I have explored new boundaries.
Enchanted Gardner, until I looked at your website, I thought you sold vegetables and I was prepared to place an order. But, it's better than that! I love all your stuff. It's really cool and I thank you for taking time to post on curezone. I just see you as a person of inward beauty with a lot to share.
Paulette
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Southern Belle
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- Re: I'm with you, Ren... by ren
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| Sometimes people are easily misunderstood. I can see the immense potential for commercial abuse overrunning this website. It has tremendous value to people and MANY MANY readers. I don't think Leslie is one of those types looking to abuse this place. He's just...well very pure of heart and motive and enthusiastic about sharing. I hope that his feelings weren't hurt too much by this. Hopefully now he can move on.
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- Re: Hi Southern Belle!!! by YourEnchantedGardener
18 y
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Hi, Southern Belle,
I have this feeling like I met you years ago?
May I ask, where do you live?
You can email that if you like.
In any case,
I think we ought to have a Curezone Conference
every couple years in some part of the country
so we could all get together and talk about
how we have gained from this wonderul site.
We could separate the Trade Show Room
from the Conference area (just kidding!)
and give Thanks for all our growth.
We are truly educating, not medicating.
I agree with you, that somethings we get
all stirred up and that this is good for Life,
Love, and the deeper understanding and compassion.
I am shedding some tears reading your and Ren's comment
here.
And please come over to our side and visit!
It is usually quite sweet and gardenlike over hear
with lots of friendships, truth telling, and Soul garden talk.
It is an honor to be Your Enchanted Gardener,
Leslie
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- Hello! by Southern Belle
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Well, here I am again in the blogs! It's like being in unchartered waters for me. (Ha)
Maybe we have met somewhere before. I am just a little old southern belle living in the deep south......Jackson, Mississippi to be exact.
A meeting would be awesome!
Paulette
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- Re: Hello! by UserX
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Hmmm, a meeting Huh? Sounds sinister :)
I am just starting to read some of the blogs myself. My time is limited so it seems like I've become a fan of the enchanted gardener!
Bob
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