Well, I'm taking Lapis's word for it that this is not the raw vegan debate forum. I wonder what he's been up to?
edit: I just realized that this whole discussion has been moved from the Raw Vegan Support forum to the debate forum. I replied to your post in the Support forum, but all posts from both forums appear. The problem is that people keep advising meat for a raw vegan support forum, and how can you get support being a raw vegan when people keep saying that you need meat, fish, etc. for protein?