"IC and myself have shared a great deal of information - I do not think either one of us holds much back at all relative to the conversation... however, why should someone like me, struggle with someone like you when you will not even consider what is being offered?"
Sometimes a well placed grain of sand in an oyster can produce pearls. The beauty of those pearls is in the eye of the beholder.
Kind of like, "when the student is ready..."
I find that when people are locked into only a mechanistic view, being open to the rest is very difficult.
A body at rest tends to stay at rest. It takes a force acting upon it to influence a change of state.
But to some...."we're not saying anything." ;-)