I'm confused about coffee enemas. Some people say lay on the left side while retaining, and others say the right side....Which is best and why? I also had my gallbladder removed but feel EXTREMELY toxic and currently unable to work because of chronic fatigue and many stomach and memory problems. Also, some say to do a cleansing enema afterward to remove the toxins dumped by the liver.
I tried a 3 cup coffee enema this afternoon. I only did one and have tried before but couldn't retain for very long. This time I was successful at 15 minutes. I only did one. Soon afterward, I broke out with several rashes and swelling all over my body and turned red like a sunburn with itchings. These eventually went away. Anyone have any ideas as to what is happening and how to be more effective? Should it have been followed by a second one or a cleansing enema?
The reaction you report is not typical, normally CE's remove things like itchy/rashes and hives (but CE's do cause the liver to expel toxic bile, so it's possible some of that reassimilated).
My first thought though, was did you use organic coffee and either distilled or reverse-osmosis filtered water?
Typical tap water is LADEN with chemicals and toxins (as is some bottled water, even spring waters. Charcoal filters remove only a small percentage) - and non-organic coffee is also very toxic...and since the coffee solution heads directly to the liver, if there's any toxins (and you're already copromised) - well, that could have been the cause of the reaction you reported.
As far as a "cleansing enema afterward", whatever you use for a solution is only going to reach "inches" into the lower colon, but the liver dumps into the duodenum (a bit above the small intestines), so most any 'cleansing enema' isn't going to reach up that far. My choice is to do a "back to back CE" (insert two cups, retain/expel...then repeat). CE's are VERY effective at inducing strong peristalsis (one of the reasons they're sometimes difficult to retain), and that peristaltic action (squeezing motion of the colon) is so effective that many times people actually see gallstones/liver-stones and other liver debris in the toilet when they expel the solution. Be sure to read this to see just how effective a CE is in removing the toxins/debris it helped to expel:curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp
After you read through all the info above, if you have any more questions I'm sure someone will be quick to reply, because there's a LOT of us (I'm answering from the Natural Healing forum) that are doing daily coffee enemas (I've done them myself for several years).
Congratulations on learning to utilize a VERY effective healing & cleansing tool!
Lie on your left side and don’t try 3 cups just stay with one or two cups until you are comfortable. Then increase ii to 2 retention enemas back to back of 2 cups with a 10/15 minute retention.
Your reaction is not common but not unheard of. Usually it is due either to an allergic reaction to coffee or to too rapid detoxification. Do you have an reaction when you drink say 1 or 2 cups of coffee? If not I would guess that you are detoxifying too rapidly. You could go on a colon cleanse prior to the coffee enemas.
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Have started back trying again. I have chronic lyme and cannot detox. The pain is unbearable and trying the coffee enemas again. Here is what I'm doing: organic coffee from walmart-- 1 cup of purified water in coffee maker with 4 tablespoons of the organic coffee in a filter and then adding 3 cups room temp purified water and mixing it altogether and dividing into 2 separate enemas of 2 cups each. It's ready to use at this point without waiting.
I can always hole the first one 15 mins but usually only 5 minutes for the repeat. Any suggestions?? Also, I still am breaking out and having rashes and itches during the process and passed a really strange bloody parasite several hours afterward a couple of days ago.
How often can these be done without causing problems?? Do I need to be replacing electrolytes afterwards and maybe trace minerals?? Can this upset the flora in the digestive tract?? I'm taking triflora per doc instructions daily.
The bugs are robbing me of everything anyway and causing severe chronic fatigue. My new doc is trying to get my inflammation down before trying to kill the bugs because I've had unbelievable problems already.
I am not sure how old this thread is, but my question is can you do a Coffee-Enema if you are allergic to coffee?
The dr. that diagnosed me with Celiac said that I am, but I was never a big coffee drinker, and the few times that I did, I noticed nothing, probably because of all the other things I'd been ingesting that are toxic to my body.
I'm having some concerns about a fibroid and really do not wish to be cut open again.
Any advice is appreciated.
I'm trying really hard to fix whatever is causing my symptoms mentioned in the title. These symptoms started getting as bad as they are after a traumatic event. I feel a lot better these days, but am really foggy headed all the time, can't concentrate, introverted and apathetic, sometimes irritable. I already had these issues before the trauma, but they were very mild.
I've read about how great Iodine is for brain fog and was wondering if that would help me? I hate how unmotivated I am about my life. Most people my age are nothing like this. If someone has any ideas or needs more details... Please let me know. I've talked to my doctor about it and he tells me I need medication for depression and that he will not help me in a holistic way.
Here's an example of what it's like to live with this everyday: I'll be driving, it's 1pm, and I have to squint my eyes because my eyes get so sensitive to sunlight. My brain just spaces out, sometimes so much that I can barely focus my eyes and my vision blurs. I recognize how out-of-it I am but it's very difficult to pull myself out, and even if I do, I easily slip back in.
I also have hollow, black circles around my eyes 24/7, I'm always tired, and I sleep around 8 hours every night. My diet is usually decent, I drink a lot of water, and I supplement with a multi, fish oil, vitamin c, magnesium, vitamin d, and zinc. I relate to the symptoms of mercury toxicity and am going to try a cilantro+chlorella detox tincture along with 5 drops daily of Lugol'sIodine 2%.
Because you say this started largely after a traumatic event, your symptoms sound strongly of overwhelmed adrenals. Probably they were already weak, and the event crashed them. Now you cannot recover.
I think you would benefit from direct adrenal help. That's more than we can offer here. I will give you a link to an Adrenals group I have experience with. You join, and then present your problem. They will ask questions and likely ask you to do a salivary cortisol test and to get blood work done. You may also need companion thyroid support.
Recovering your adrenals can be tedious, but rewarding. I encourage you to read their Daily Digest, as reading about what is going on with other members can help you with yourself.
Best of luck! You can reverse this, but not overnight.
I wouldn't be surprised if I had adrenal fatigue. I relate a lot to it except for the weight gain symptom (I'm 6'2 165lb and can't gain weight).
I remember suffering from panic attacks for so long that my body just started shutting down and becoming more apathetic and fatigued, then I got a night shift job and things got even worse. Then I switched to a day shift but it was a more stressful job; and though that helped a lot not working nights, the job stress took its toll and made me more dead inside.
What I don't get is that I'm 21. I feel like I shouldn't be this weak...I should be confident, aggressive, able to conquer anything at this age like everyone else seems to be. My friends make jokes that I'm an old man because I'm so worn down..
I don't blame them honestly. No one else my age is like this.
But if it is possible for someone as young as me, maybe I do have adrenal fatigue. It'll be difficult getting tested. My doctor is anti-holistic. I've switched doctors like 4 times now and they're all anti-holistic. They do offer thyroid tests, but I usually come back fine on those (I believe I had 2.16 TSH last time).
I'll check out the group and see if they can help me. It's also worth noting I took 50mg DHEA for 3 days straight recently and I felt amazing. I think that's used in adrenal fatigue treatment? But I stopped because I don't know for sure if I need it and didn't want to screw up my hormones.
You might have genetic tendencies that make it difficult for your metabolism to respond "normally," according to what might be considered usual for a young man. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you were to scratch below the surface of your friends' health, they might have issues that just aren't as obvious as yours.
The group does not support use of DHEA, unfortunately. I disagree with that, as my husband has benefitted tremendously from time-release DHEA 60 mg. It might be a weak spot for you. DHEA helps metabolize hormones downstream of it, such as testosterone.
Here's an interesting article with a diagram of hormonal pathways. It reminds me that one of the most simple things you could start with would be to drink salted water, using unprocessed salt. Perhaps about 1/2 tsp salt with 2-3 quarts of water daily. Being hydrated can be a lovely wakeup call to your body, and salt is necessary for your adrenals to function.
What kind of genetic tendencies do you think I may have?
I do want to try DHEA again but I'm afraid of messing up my hormones. Is it ok to take short term, like a month, even if I'm not sure if I'm deficient? I got magnesium oil because I read it can increase DHEA more safely but it gave me a rash everywhere I sprayed it.
The salt water thing seems interesting. Can I do that with Sea Salt ? That's all we ever use in my household
And I have seen an adrenal fatigue cortisol/dhea saliva test on Amazon. It had good reviews but it's a little expensive for me right now. I'm going to consider it though.
Thanks for your help. I got accepted into the group and made a post yesterday but it isn't showing up yet, so I'm hoping they didn't deny it and it just needs to be approved.
Oh, goodness, the genetic thing was just a general comment. We all have genetic anomalies, and looking in from the outside doesn't always tell what's happening.
I had the same response to magnesium oil.
Sea salt is a nonprocessed salt, so, yes, it's good to use with your water. You just want to keep salt and water balanced so you don't feel dried up.
The group is fully moderated, and your post won't show up until someone is ready to answer it and approves it. All in good time.
I just realized that their monthly break will start tonight. That means that they close for one week starting the last Friday night of the month, and they will reopen next Saturday morning. You might be able to get one more post answered today, then you can think about what they say during next week.
Hey this is my first post on curezone. My name is Andy, the username PTG stands for post traumatic growth. I was initially reluctant to commit to a forum like this because I don't want to marinate in my disease and I want away from any negativity. I think mindset is imperative to healing and the "you'll never heal" or "evidence of permanent damage" type of commentary deterred me for a long time. But I'm back because I want to share what I'm learning and I want to engage in a community of people working together to achieve optimal health. I don't care what the MDs say or what kind of dogma is being espoused, I don't think there is a ceiling on our happiness even after scary diagnoses or terrible, unnatural, chemical assault. I think the body is resilient and we can all heal. And the only possible starting place is believing.
So I'm looking for two things. One is some way to get a group together to support one another and offer encouragement and updates and discuss the lessons of the healing journey and weird things like oil pulling and coffee enemas, the things that don't appeal to your average coworker or family member. The other is advise on where to look for encouragement. I want to hear about treating gut dysbiosis and overcoming iatrogenic injury, but without having to wade through all the degrading negativity. Does anyone know of a good place for positive anecdotes or books or videos or speakers or online sites or practitioners or any second-hand inspiring story about achieving great health, overcoming grim odds. Illness can do a number on a person's attitude after a while and I think it's important to try to stay upbeat.
Anyway I don't want to go on too long, but in a nutshell I was raised on psych drugs which I disliked. I chose to get off when I moved away from home as soon as I turned 18, wasn't totally off of everything until 21. the withdrawals were terrible beyond description. I was given several courses of antibiotics, vaccinations, steroid inhalers, an appendectomy, I was basically a regular at Shawnee Mission Medical Center despite being in decent health. Now at 22 I'm dealing with the aftermath--a crap ton of health problems. Awful digestion, fatigue, brain fog, systemic candidiasis, the whole nine yards. New symptoms coming and going every day. I don't want to hear claims about how damaging allopathic medicine is, believe me I know; you're preaching to the converted. At this point it's too late for me just like it is for many people raised in this generation and the important thing is what can we do from here? We're on the frontiers of reclaiming our autonomy, our birthright of life without chronic illness. I know I'll overcome this and I know that this challenge came into my life to teach me and sculpt me into something beyond what I could be without it. A slap in the face to wake me up. One day I'll be glad I got sick, it's just what to do until then to evolve. Anyone who has ideas or insights or inspiration about how they have been positively transformed by their health struggles, where we could get a more closely-knit community, or where to look for inspiration, please post below! Thanks for reading!
I have been diagnosed with leaky gut, candida, inflammation, high levels of copper, and also a not insignificant level of lead.
As part of a regimen to cure myself I eat bone marrow soup, glutamine, Marshmallow root, Spirulina, FOS, and EDTA rounds while staying away from food that could trigger inflammation.
Anyhow - I seem to experience a rise in anxiety levels in relation to the intake of probiotics and was wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
I can't seem to find any articles describing this, in fact, only the opposite (that probiotics cure anxiety).
Also, as far as I can see, there can be 2 explanations to this:
1. A transitory phase with re-newed candida die-off
2. Probiotic bacteria that enter the blooedstream due to severe leaky gut.
I tend to think it's the latter as I have been eating only bone marrow soup and spirulina/blueberry shake for 2 weeks plus I had been using antifungals and practiced a Paleo diet for ages before that (and no Sugar or wheat).
Does anyone have any input on this at all?
Should I quit probiotics as it makes me edgy and it surely can't be healthy if the bacteria is entering the bloodstream/system?
Or is it even a plausible theory?
Yes I was reading your post and wanted to give you a little information on what you might want to try. but first I will tell you some of the things I have done, I see that if you would eat right and change your diet a little, things would slow down with the anxiety. you can try walking around as you're having them, try to think of happy things. and avoid stressful things.
My opinion: trust your instincts and quit the probiotics if you feel they're causing problems. I know people who can't take them. Many therapies and medicines mentioned on curezone are used and recommended to be used improperly. Probiotics are not a cure-all, and shouldn't be used if they're making your condition worse.
Sometime in the future, consider dropping glutamine, FOS, EDTA. If your condition isn't being considerably improved by these things, they can make problems worse over time. Anything unnecessary should be stopped.
I don't know anything about your history or who diagnosed you, but if the diagnosis is correct, I would recommend checking liver health too.
All of the things you mentioned are signs of excess. If your copper levels are high, consider camu-camu, amalaki, rosehip, and acerola cherry extract. Unless your lead levels have been reliably tested and shown to be through the roof, herbs and diet specific to your other conditions will gradually allow removal - in other words, don't worry too much about it.
Psyllium-bentonite (search google for "psyllium-bentonite eytonsearth" for a guide) may provide some relief from your symptoms - just don't make the mistake of overdoing it.
If you're using marshmallow root capsules, I highly recommend purchasing this in bulk from starwest, frontier, etc and making a light decoction instead. Maybe investigate licorice root, astragalus, and slippery elm as well. Astragalus is great for the immune system, and nearly specific for your bowel condition. (Based on TCM and ayurveda.) If you can handle licorice root, it's great for the mucus membranes and works well against candida. Slippery elm will perform similarly to the marshmallow. Making a decoction out of all of the above isn't a bad idea. Consider boiling a tiny piece of myrrh, frankincense, guggul, or pine resin in the water for 2-10 minutes before adding the herbs. (The myrrh may fully dissolve, so use a smaller amount.) Whatever hasn't dissolved can be saved for next time.
Marrow soup sounds like a good idea to me, and I'm sure it's working well. Meat broth soups in general (without the chunks) should be handy, and consider adding Celery and (if you're not sensitive to it) a little radish.
Consider purchasing some chelated molybdenum to use temporarily. If your copper levels are high, you have bowel issues, you have inflammation problems, and you're sensitive to probiotics, it's possible molybdenum can help. (Deficiency of molybdenum can produce those problems.) If nothing else, the molybdenum will help to reduce copper levels. If you choose to try it, take it for a week or two at a high dose (can be up to even 2000% recommended) and stop to allow the body time to adjust itself again.
I would like to present myself, my name is Rick, I'm a 27yo software developer.
My fight began to get harder on October 2015, when I took three 500mg Ciprofloxacin pills that ruined my health.
Right after the first pill, I felt something like electric sensation at my left arm. From this day on, I had a lot of symptoms like:
Neuropathy, motor coordination problems, muscular strength problems, brain fog, neck pain, headache, liver pain, kidney pain, extreme anxiety,
I've been able to manage a lot of symptoms under control till today, but I'm still fighthing with some symptoms which are:
*Brain fog (ocasionally, keeps coming and going)
*Muscular weakness (gets bad sometimes)
*Balance problems (ocasionally)
*Fatigue (which gets real bad sometimes)
*Dry eyes (keeps coming and going)
*A little bit of neuropathy and pain (almost not noticiable, gets worse depending on what I eat)
Microscope tests shown my gut absorbtion is not good and some food intolerance was found too.
I'm focusing in looking for Leaky Gut/SIBO/Candida issues, gonna do a compreensive stool test to track these issues and follow the treatment with a naturopath.
Also looking for Mercury problems, but I'm slowing down on this cause Chelation can make me even worse.
In the past I've made a lot of IV Ozone sessions (some with Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C and NAC), Ozone enemas, high-dose Vitamin B12 shots.
I also took Digestive Enzimes,CQ10, Magnesium, Liver and Immune Support supplements, and took lot of Probiotics too.
If somebody here could give me any advice, I would be glad.
Don't ever take Cipro again. Even the CDC is warning that it causes serious health problems. It has been found to cause tendons to rupture among other things. It remains available only because it has been found to be the best treatment for Anthrax. So, unless you get Anthrax, don't take it.
HP is right, this drug has some nasty side effects. Perhaps it destroyed the healthy bacteria which is leading to some problems maybe it caused some toxicity problems.
Could you tell why you took this drug? e.g. was it due to a gut infection?
You could try to repopulate the gut bacteria. I like prebiotics such as apple cider vinegar or perhaps colostrum.
Cipro is a fluorine based drug and some of the studies suggest that it is the fluorine that causes problems so maybe a good idea is to use antioxidants or a chelator.
Vitamin E has some potent healing properties, AC Grace offers the purest Vit E but is not cheap. They recommend higher dosages. I would use the mixed tocopherols product. Vitamin C is also a potent antioxidant, I would choose a buffered C rather than straight ascorbic acid due to the pH level. I would also look at plant based antioxidants such as turmeric.
Another suggestion is using a chelator which can pull toxins out. Chlorella is very good but I would recommend the Clean Chlorella product since it has been verified to be void of contaminants. I have used this and have not had problems like the other chlorella products.
resultsrna.com has a very good zeolite product called ACZ which I have used for a long time. IMO, it is the best zeolite I have used. Studies have shown that zeolite can pull out toxins.
(I have no affiliations with any of these products).
Just to add other details I forgot, all about vision issues:
From one month to now, eyes got worse, sometimes when they are extreme dry, I have after-images and light sensibility, also, I see like tiny little grains (some dark, some bright) at my vision, but it comes and goes.
I've made an eye test which shows the back of my eye is ok, waiting for the retina test result.
I use glasses since my teenage, I can see fine with them (although my right eye is a bit blurrier even with glasses, and it´s image is a bit more red than the left one).
My advice is to get diagnostic tests from your doctor. I have twin sons that were diagnosed with SIBO and later Crohn's disease.
Your symptoms sound serious but not the same as my sons have suffered. We had no idea they had SIBO or Crohn's before the testing.
Find out exactly what you have and then check out Curezone for ideas. The medications my sons were given from the Drs. caused terrible side effects without helping their conditions even slightly.
We tried every alternative treatment we could find and probiotics, aloe vera, accupuncture, Chinese medicine helped. But what made the biggest impact in reversing their conditions was marijuana. Obviously I wasn't crazy about the idea, but if was really curing them of this horrible disease - I couldn't object. In fact I'm very greatful that it's helped them.
But again, have tests done and fine out what you really have. I'm obviously not a fan of mainstream medicine but for diagnostic purposes it's the place to start. Good luck!
Robert C an engineer and physicist who was partially disabled by chronic fatigue, etc in his early 40s but was back at work in his nice job roughly a year after getting rid of the silver Amalgam fillings and starting detox. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/84889.html
People as sick as you often start with just 5mg doses of DMPS every 6 hrs around the clock for a long weekend along with generous antioxidants, zinc, magnesium, etc.
With your symptoms you won't want to skimp on Mg, including Mg sulfate--Epsom Salt. Also learn about adrenal cortex support and amino acids that have a calming effect such as glutamine and GABA.
Detox is not a quick fix; however getting the right combo of supporting supplements, diet and maybe some medication can have a substantial positive effect in the short term. They were for a close female friend who had an almost identical list of symptoms.
So much more could be said! There are detox support groups here, at Yahoo and FB.
My sons had SIBO later diagnosed as Crohns disease. Things that helped them the most were Aloe Vera, Probiotics, Slippery Elm powder, Colloidal Silver and DMSO combined, accupuncture chinese medicinal herbs and marijuana.
Actually the marijuana made the biggest impact and put one of my sons in remission. The other has been helped by it too but also went down the Chinese medicine path with acupuncture and various herbal mixtures which helped quite a bit.
Even if you're against smoking marijuana you can look into cannabis oils etc - but it's really helped them.
Some well meaning posters but they haven't the slightest ideal what you are going thru. I do because like you I have or had cipro poisoning. I had a stroke the first pill I took in my sleep. From that I had deep tendon pains, elec shock, severe vision problems, brain fog etc.
2 months later I had to deal with edemema and water retention. My knee cartilage broke and for 2 years was disabled.
There is only one thing that works. It cure me completely and it is cheap. It is called Sea Moss. Take 1 and 1/2 tablespoons daily. My cartilage is repaired and all signs of cipro gone. Here a link to the company I use.
I've made some tests and almost every organ that were inflammed 5 months ago, aren´t anymore. I have only a big inflamation at my stomach, and my liver is a little bit inflamed too.
I've made a compreensive stool test that shows a lot of microscopic yeast.
Also, it shows I have a lot of dysbiotic Citrobacter froundii complex bacteria and unbalanced Hemolytic Escherichia coli.
Sorry about how you feel but the test results are quite encouraging. You now have something to work on.
Of course other issues can still be involved, for example, heavy metals can be contributing to the gut imbalances. Some beneficial micro organisms are more sensitive to them. HMs can affect the body's natural defenses. You can learn more about that in at least one video by Chris Shade by and certainly in the writings of Andrew Cutler.
I was getting better in some aspects, but worse on others. I was getting extremely tired, so the doctor gave me Vitamin B complex, Probiotics, and Activacted Charcoal to take at home. I'm taking them and the tiredness got a lot better, but a bit of anxiety came back, with abdominal gases, bloating and a bit of pain, with brain fog too. Yesterday, besides the probiotics, I took a lot of Iogurth, and I'm having a bad day today (lot of brain fog and a bit overstimulated). I don´t know if it has something to do with probiotic "overdose". About eating, I'm already eating a lot better, and taking adrenal soup almost every day.