I ordered "Waihi Bush: Flaxseed oil (original)" off the internet to try on my eczema as an alternative to the stelroid ointments I use, so I started taking it orally 1 to 2 tablespoons a day for a couple of days.. But then i tried it directly on my skin with the thinking that because it is very good for the skin when you drink it it must be good for the skin when applied topically.. Oh how I was so wrong.. I put it on my face before going to sleep and woke up next morning looking completely horrid; I had red arcs under both my eyes and they had a starring appearance to them. What the oil had done is made the skin around my eyes so tight and thin that I struggled to close them.
But it gets worse, a week after applying it to my skin my eyes started to hurt when looking around and the only way to make it less painful was to shut them and as I started to feel pressure building up around my eyes I went to see the doctors about 3 days after i first started getting it at which point was bordering close to unbearable and he prescribed me "eye drops eye lubricant" which I used as soon as I got home and made the pain subside after about 2 days. 3 to 4 weeks later I begun getting these wierd pressure headaches (I don't know how to describe it properly because it does not hurt but it drive me nuts) which gradually got worse over a 7 month period which has just started settling down now and what I think the cause is, is the flaxseed oil has made its way into my facial cavities around the eyes and behind the nose (sinuses and what have you) and caused them to close up and create chronic blockage. On top of all this my eyes protrude outwards and now when I sleep every night my eyes don't close properly, and to completely close it I have to try forcefully (think squinting).
As a result every morning I wake up with reddish eyes which are very dry and my facial appearance has continually changed over the past 10 months and not in a good way.
So right now as of the time of writing this 10 months since applying it to my face, this is what the flaxseed oil has done to me: the skin around my eyes has become extremely thin and hollow out (the flaxseed oil has had a tightening shrinking effect on the skin) the skin around my eyes and part of my cheek has lost most of its sensitivity to touch and now sag a bit, my eyes now protrude outwards, I get pressure headaches randomly in varying degress, I get dry eyes and a headache every morning I wake up all, these have caused me to look hideously ugly..
At the moment I have tried everything I can think of to try improve my appearance and restore my skin around my eyes back to their normal state (firmer, more volume and has feeling when you touch it) so this is what I have tried:
*eating really healthy eg. fruits (apples, oranges, tomatoes, avacados, lemons etc.), vegetables (cabages, lettice, bok choy, spinach, potatoes, pumpkin etc.), fish like salmon, olive oil, eggs, so far I havent found any improvement eating these types of foods so I also tried eating just fatty foods like deep fried chips atc. on a regular basis but also have found little to no improvement..
*exercise like jogging for 30mins or walking for 1 hour 2 to 3 times a week
*using moisturing lotion with vitaman E and elastin actually made my skin more worse..
So far I havent seen any improvement to my skins texture it is still tight and soft.. (it has a rubbery texture), can someone help me? is there something im missing that I could do? I'm at the conclusion that the flaxseed oil has permanently altered my skin and it will remain like this for the rest of my life. this experience has ruined my life in that I have terrible social anxiety and do not leave the house much if at all some days. So my message to others who may be considering using flaxseed oil topically on their face is DO NOT! it is not worth the risk, unless you know what you are doing and know EXACTLY what it will do to you.
Hi. How are u doing so far? I don't know if what you are experiencing is a topical steroid withdrawal since you mentioned about your skin got worse since you stopped the topical steroid and opted for natural remedies. Maybe flax seed oil doesn't work for you. As for me i am on my topical steroid withdrawal journey i had horrible weepy nummular eczema patches on my lower legs and they healed currently about 90%. Now i still have stubborn eczema patches on my hands and still going through rebound flare ups. I notice its getting bad when im out of supplements (evening primrose oil, fish oil, olive juice extract) so i've to rush to the pharmacy tomorrow. My body needs extra of these to recover.. I'm just sharing this to let you see maybe you are going thru the same thing. Take care
you may be having a topical allergic reaction to flax seed.
I would try a raw honey, tea tree, greek yogurt mask. And a spoonful of honey every day.
Honey rebuilds the skin, is incredibly moisturizing, and antibacterial. yogurt and tea tree oil will kill the fungus/eczema)
*Raw garlic is a great herb that fights aging (a couple cloves a week)
drinking a lot of water, and warm showers (opposed to hot) helped with my eczema
I understand how you feel, that's why I really wanted to reply on your message...
Last year something similar happened to me (and my look is very important to me), however, I made a mess with my skin because I wanted it to be perfect. Stupid girl.
It's one year ago.. what I learned since then wanna share with you. Btw. my English's not the best, Bosnian is my native...so I hope everything will be clearly understandable.
It is important to stay relaxed and calm...doing yoga, meditations, whatever you like. You know why? It is about bioenergy... you can cure everything, really anything by your own energy. Sounds crazy but it works, slowly, you need to be patient. Bot overdriving with anything, no pushing... try not thinking too much about your problem...doing a lot of other stuff in life, occupate yourself with that, dont look at the mirror all the time, waiting... No pushing.
Ah yeah, learning a new language will be great. When you forget your problem it will get better and better, believe me.
About exercises, you should try the five tibetan rites, they're great...breath properly, not just during the exercises, but all the time. Think about it.
Drink a lot of water. Don't overextend it. Stay moderate with everything. Eating a lot of veggies and fruits is great, it will help. Import them in your daily routine..eat also nuts daily, not too much...but you need unsaturated fats. Read, smile, dance, shine from the inside, and believe me it will get better and better. If you feel unsatisfied with yourself, others will notice somethings wrong, but if you're pleased with yourself, nobody will notice anything. Its not just a saying, I tested it. A healthy attitude, head up, and people see you differently. About your skin... I incorporated a weekly facial mask in m routine...I'm using green clay. It helps, slowly, but it does, thats the most important thing. Im trying not using too much not trying to fast it up, thats the most important thing. Now, i dont want to suggest using clay mask... We're all different, I dont know if youre allergic to something, so you could test is on a small past of the skin. I thin honey is the best to go if youre not allergic. Bu it has to be raw REAL honey (important!) with enzymes, this one should be able to crystalize. Again always good to try it on a small area.. Honey isnt kept for too long on the face usually, mostly about 20 minutes, and not in a too thick layer...diluted with water (not warm).
Find your natural remedy for your face thats not aggressive at all, follow it weekly or as the instructions say... Around the eyes its the best not using too much, just a light cream, in small amounts.
Drink lemon-water, eat oranges...they stimulate collagen production, avoid refined sugar...
But the most important, be happy, laugh(watch some funny sitcoms like The big bang theory :D), keep working/doing/being active and keep the positive energy, it's actually all you need to heal yourself, wether you are following a diet or not.
I tried to be precise...so I really hope it will help. It helped me you must know, and I had as well other health problems...I'm still progressing, nothing will change over night...
Wish you good look! I hope you take my message serious, don't like the idea that I've thrown my time away for no reason. Success is guaranteed... :)
Hello there ,
I really feel for you because I too have tried to repair my facial skin because of cortisone damage and had a lot of problems trying things
That only my made it worse .
But At last I have found something that really does help build the skin again... From being thinned sunken and badly damaged.
I don't know in what country you live but I live in Australia And we have a TV channel called the TVSN channel. They sell this wonderful collection of serums Which do really build up your collegeni and plump the skin out.
The best one they sell is called 'collagen 8 .'It doesn't actually have collegen and in it but it repairs your Collagen very well. I wouldn't do without it. You can actually get it on eBay as well for about $110 at the best price. Tvsn are online as well ... Just search for it on google
Specialists have also told me to use high potency vitamin C Serums which really do help And also vitamin A serums . I'm sure these things will help you. ... As they have helped me . God Bless :-)
You need to take a step back from this and rethink your issue here. There is no way that flaxseed oil did that to your face or affected your sinuses for ten months!
How long were you using steroid creams ? Did you stop using the steroid creams around the same time you started using the flaxseed oil? You think that the flaxseed oil "made its way into my facial cavities around the eyes and behind the nose"
Your skin is your largest organ. It does absorb the things you apply to it. It did absorb the flaxseed. But also the steroid cream!
Did you know that steroids can cause thinning skin? This is a common side effect! The steroids calm inflammation by working against your immune system. When you stop applying to steroid your skin ( and your body) go through withdrawal.
You skin and your body need time to readjust to life without the steroids.
The steroids are probably to blame for your sinus issues.
You say you went to a doctor about this issue . I can believe that a doctor would not tell you this. There is NO WAY FLAXSEED OIL messed up your skin and sinuses for 10 months. Steroids on the other hand, can affect you for much longer. They only work as long as you use them and when you stop using them there is a "rebound effect" as doctors call it. Your problem gets worse after quitting the steroid. Whether the steroid is oral, inhaled or topical.
I had eczema my whole life. It got really bad at one point in my teens. About 5 years ago i found out i had celiacs disease. I knew i was allergic to wheat as a child and avoided it until becoming a teenager. I thought it was ok to eat wheat so i ate whatever i wanted- thats when my eczema got really bad.
When i went gluten free 5 years ago my eczema disappeared. I dont even use lotion anymore and my skin is not dry.
I used steroid creams for a short time as a teen and they didnt work for me.
The eczema was caused by my immune system reacting to an allergen. Gluten. Which i was constantly putting in my body. All the steroids and the creams i applied were only a band-aid for a deeper issue.
Eczema and psoriasis are a warning sign, your body telling you something isnt right. When you take (or apply) a steroid you are telling your immune system to shut up!
I would suggest looking into a food allergy to get to the bottom of your issue.
Steroids are nasty i hope you have learned your lesson. But it seems you want to blame a natural food product for your problem.
In the past it has taken my body up to 2 years to get back to normal after stopping a steroid.
Are you familiar with Topical Steroid Addiction (Steroid induced Eczema) also Red Skin Syndrome. It could be, that as you stopped using the topical steroids you went into withdrawal and the flaxseed aggravated it. There are thousands of us with similar symptons as you. please visit (International Topical Steroid Addiction Network)This is an org address as its a charity. It only takes 2 weeks for the skin to become addicted to steroids. The only way to recover is to go cold turkey and recovery time is months to years but the results are amazing and Eczema will be almost gone. I'm 91 days into withdrawal, after 20 years plus of steroid use. its hard but i'm seeing big improvements.
I read your article and could totally relate...so much so I even at the start I wondered if I may have written it a few years ago 😛
First thing to say is your definitely not the only one who in attempt to improve yourself have made a wrong choice and then regretted it afterwards!...and massively regretted it afterwards!...
I have learnt the hard way to...and with natural products to..which just goes to show natural doesn't mean harmless...they can have big ramifications to...
I put this heavy pomegranate oil under my eyes for a week and suddenly my eyes went all thin and fragile and hallow aswell...even though technically pomegranate is meant to thicken skin!.....was so annoyed at myself as I was always so gentle under my eyes...just with basic rosehip oil..but then decided to change things around.....that's always when I get the biggest problems when I start to experiement to much...
The key is when you find something works ..stick to it!!
I read one response that resonated a lot from a girl who had also been through a similar thing and she said best thing to do is remain calm..relax..and just be patient....cos I foot myself so worked up over the regret and how much my skin changed that I got so stressed and got rally bad insomnia..worst was when I hadn't slept for 3 days straight..no joke..all due to worry..was horrible....now whenever I make a similar mistake again....cos as humans sometimes we have short term memories! And forget the mistakes of th past...I would have even worse retgrets and think why didn't inlearn the last time..land bam..insomnia back....and I tell you what from all that stress cortisol circulating around my body..and no sleep all I did was make my skin and my problems 10000 times worse!!
Only when I started to relax and try and not think about it to much and just have pure faith that in good time and the right lifestyle and skin choices the skin will repair itself by to how it was before....or make a massive improvement anyways!
And when I started doing that..sure enough that's when I would get the results....as I stopped focusing..and that calm energy floating through my body was healing and regenerating the skin....and a good tip is to take beaks from looking in the mirror.....and if you do just do it from far away for a bit..not with a mag hint glass like we all can do sometimes 😛
So yes best approach stop looking in the mirror for a while...maybe check in with yourself once every few weeks or even a little longer...and just swap fear with faith...faith that your body and skin will repair and you will start looking like your old self again...
The best under eye serum is prickley pear. Serum ...is full of natural vitamin e ...a lot more than argan oil..and has a high amount of vitamin k which is the inrgrediant you want for under eye circles and veins...it's also super high in essential fatty acids and will restore you skin barrier function....I can guarantee you that you won't find another serum that will transform your skin so much....it gives it a luminous even glow and will strengthen the skin...trust me!....Google it and you will see all the great reviews..kenza do an awesome one
Best collagen boosters are Msm and vitamin c...just start with 1/4 teaspoon of msm and add vitamin c powder...either ester or one with bioflavonoids...or even naturall vit c like camu camu.......it strengthens all connective tissue such as skin joints..tendons...it will rebuild collagen under your eyes...and make your skin clear and glow..helps wih pigmentation and also has brilliant effect on nourishing all your organs...I used to have bad upper bk pain and pains from endometriosis...as soon as I started taking this..as an awesome side effect I was expecting..the pains were gone!....once again Google benefits of msm powder and you will see
Next collagen booster is ceremides.....they have even now been FDA approved....you can get them either in the form of wheat germ supplement..or cereides from sweet potatoe or rice supplement .....they will help plump up your skin as they rebuild the layers of fat from the inside..and will actually strength alll 4 layers of skin...Google to!
Other great skin supplements is goto kula..shisandra and aloe Vera coenzyme Q10..and asthanxin..
You also need to have protein with every meal as protein is full of all the amino acids present in the skin and needed to rebuild...I buy hemp protein powder... Lysein and proline and two amino acids especially good for rebuilding collagen
You also néed to increase all your good fats so omegas 3 fish oil...or flaxseed oil..(internally of course 😜.... And borage seed oil..important to moisturise your skin from inside out..
Best foods to eat to increase skin thickness is tomatoes...but best in the form of concentrated tomatoe paste...only buy from your organic store..and have a teaspoon a day on a rice cracker...you also have to swallow a dash of olive oil with it to enhance absorption..
Pomegranates also increase skin density...as does green tea
To increase your skins natural hydraulic acid have lots of sweet potatoe and also beans
Oh and one of the best things you can also do that will transform your skin and give your a natural glow..that will make you look like you have a nice glowy tan without the sun.lis carrot juice!,lli have two carrot juices a day with beetroot.....many studies have shown the more ppl have carrot and veggie juices ..it will increase the skin pigment in your skin and make you attractive to others...also swallow little bit of olive oil for absorption
Also drinking lots of purified water will also plump your skin out
And most important thing is to be kind to yourself!...we all do this stuff..and you only did it to improve yoruself ..so you came from a. Good place ..we are only human..I have done this stuff about 6 different time in the last year alone!!
Just take on board the above food and supplement advice...start to relax..replace ear with faith ( highly recommend you buy the book the wisdom of Florence shovel shin...will change your life) and already start to feel happy knowing that in time you will be bk to your old self 😃
If your doctor said don't put the steroid cream on your face, I wouldn't because of the strength of the ingredients, (I have an allergic reaction to numerous steroid and other creams due to their ingredients), so I have to be careful what I use on my skin. I am allergic to the preservative and specific chemicals used in creams, so in a way I can understand what you may be going through. I have also heard many people having used the cream for so long, as soon as they stop using it there may be effects to the system. Steroids may cure the problem, but have adverse effects in the long term as well, and don't cure the cause. If you could, I would ask if you have to take this for a specific amount of time, don't go over, and if you have any effects, rashes, or it doesn't work, go back to the Dr.
I don't know your problem, and I am no expert, but I would suggest going to a qualified health shop if the cream doesn't work, for a natural cure, or go back to your doctor. But I presume that you will be using the steroid cream over other areas not your face, don't use it on your face, it could have damaging effects, especially if the Dr has said don't use it.
I just use pure Aloe Vera gel from a plant I have in the conservatory, and now and again pure, organic coconut oil out of a jar, from head to toe. Antibacterial and Moisturising, (but coconut is a dry moisturiser).
What I would ask is, what do you want to use steroid cream on your face for? when they are plenty other creams, or is there a problem?
Don't know if you are any better, I do hope you are. I don’t know if this will help, but Aveeno is really good. Strangely, a car mechanic told me about the benefits. Apparently with all the chemicals etc they use, their hands get a rough deal and the porridge oats in it is a miracle worker. I hope you find a cure.
Have you tried Aloe Vera gel to cure your skin problem.
Aloe Vera is calming, cooling, antibacterial,hydrating, and moisturising to the skin, and it can be drunk in liquid form as well.
Plus there are not many known side effects, as it is a natural plant.
You can buy this from a health shop, but make sure that it is organic, and nothing is added to the gel.
I have an Aloe Vera plant I keep in the conservatory, (for warmth), I cut off a piece of leaf, then carefully remove the green outerskin on both sides, so that I am just left with the clear gel, and then try to remove any yellow.
If I have an itch, sunburn, or skin problem I just use this gel, and it cures it. I have even used it after being stung by a nettle leaf, after using a pure tea tree rollon. (The Tea tree kills off any germs, as well as the Aloe Vera, as they are both antibacterial).
Here is a picture of my lips this morning. To start things off I will give you a little background info. I am a 20 year old female. I have been dealing with eczema, angular chelitis, chronic diarrhea, etc for about 8 years. (You can go to my first post on here if you want even more background information.) I live a pretty healthy lifestyle. I recently cut out dairy and gluten in my diet and my eczema and loose stools have improved. My lips have still been bad though. They have a raw, tight feeling almost all the time. The corners are red and cracked. The upper and lower lip are red, sometimes flaky, and extremely painful. Some days it hurts to smile, talk, eat, brush my teeth, and sometimes I don't even want to leave the house because I do not want to see anyone I know. It seems to get worse when I get hot or sweaty. I feel like I have tried everything. Hypoallergenic soaps with no fragrances, moisturizers, no moisturizers, natural makeup/products, every chapstick/lip product, nystatin ointment, mentholatum, Neosporin, and the list goes on. Sometimes my lips will clear for a few days, but they always go back to being irritated, red and painful. This morning I was doing research online and found that some people suffer from a beeswax (or propolis) allergy and have similar lip symptoms to mine. Beeswax (propolis) is found in almost every lip product, and I was wondering if maybe this is my problem. Please help if you know anything about this. I am so desperate for answers to my problems. Thanks!
You can try and eliminate certain foods and products. Do you currently apply anything to your lips?
On top of the allergy testing I think you should find a good dermatologist, as for the inflammation I feel protopic would help a lot with that, if the root cause can not be eliminated (no allergy found) but again that would be at your dermatologists discretion. Your condition is treatable so try not to worry, call the dermatologists office for cancellations.
You should consider yourself lucky. Compared to most people on here your lips look great. And like Ryan said I think its probably pretty easily treated. It does look like you have a little angular cheilits, but I agree that you should get patch testing.
Also this foaming agent called Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) is in most soaps, toothpastes, detergents, etc. If you are allergic to SLS or SLS intolerant, this can irritate your skin greatly so you should eliminate SLS from all of your soaps and toothpastes. You can go to Whole Foods and find plenty of SLS free products. But again, after that you should get patch testing.
i have severe dry peeling lips and angular chelitis and i use anti-fungual cream tolnaftate and clotrimazole to kill the candida-yeast-fungus around the lips. Remember candida is yeast, yeast is fungus, and any anti-fungual cream can kill it. Before i sleep at night i apply a thin layer of tolnaftate, it's been 2 weeks and my lips are getting better, i will continue for 4 weeks and see if there are any improvements.
i also have been on a candida diet for 10 weeks (2 months) which means no sugar, no carbohydrates so i only eat salad, green vegetable, beef, and chicken. i also take probiotics ultimate flora because the good bacteria will kill the candida inside your intestine. starve the candida-yeast factory from Sugar and carbohydrates for 6 months and take probiotics. i am on month 2 out of 6 months so i'm still on the candida diet no Sugar and no carbohydrates.
Consider alternatives to treatment when the normal doctors dont work like I have. Try a homeapothist, you could try restoring your colonic health while waiting for your appointment, or you could try taking a strong natural multiviatmin because your symptoms are similar to vitamin deficiency even if it does not show up on tests.
I also had angular chelitis and extremely chapped, cracked, peeling lips for many, many years. Like you, I tried just about everything, with no luck until recently.
I have switched to ALL natural skin care (no chemicals of any kind), which helped my skin in general, but the step that finally cleared up my lips was when I totally eliminated Sodium Lauryl Sulfate from my life, including switching to SLS-free toothpaste, mouthwash, and all skin care products.
It took a month or so after the change, but now my lips are totally normal and soft for the first time in years, and the angular chelitis is gone as well. And they have been clear not just for a day or two, but for more than a month. I really think this is finally the permanent cure for me.
Yes brillig! Me too! I've tried sooo many treatments trying to get rid of the chelitis for two years now! After MUCH investigation on the internet, I switched to a toothpaste without Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, in my case Sensodyne Gentle Whitening, and presto chango, all irritation gone by evening! It's been over a week now, and my mouth is still normal. I thought initially, it was a beeswax allergy and quit using my lip products, but continued to have issues. Now I know what the real culprit is. Not sure why it suddenly developed after many years of using toothpastes with that ingredient. Hope this will help others!
I agree, shea butter is great. Bulk Apothecary has great online prices for it. One slight downside it that it won't stick to your lips quite as well as a lip balm with some kind of wax in it. So just plain shea butter will need to be applied more often.
Or, you could easily make you own lip balm by mixing a little melted wax with the shea butter (beeswax or micro-crystalline wax, if you decide you are allergic to beeswax). Then you would have your own totally natural lip balm with no chemicals or artificial ingreidents.
There are virtually no syndromes and/or diseases that are not reversible. If you are interested in taking control of your own health [and I sincerely hope you are], the following will give you all the information you need:
Any of the discourses by Luigi Cornaro (available free online);
Any of the books by Horace Fletcher (available free online);
Any of the writings of Arnold Ehret.
Just like virtually everything else in life, it is all ultimately up to YOU.
You have all my best wishes for a successful journey and resolution,
I realize that your post has been up for 3 months already and while I do hope you found something that worked for you, I wanted to come and make a suggestion for you. I've had eczema my whole life and my face has always been very sensitive so I always had a bit of a rash - especially around my eyes and mouth. I used to just cover it up with makeup. However, about a year ago, I had a scaly crack in the corner of my mouth along with the usual rash and it was terrible. So painful... nothing got rid of it. Not polysporin, not cortizone, steroids, nothing. I had it for about three months and was getting desperate. Then I read about using honey as a face wash and decided to give it a try. After a week of replacing my usual face wash with a teaspoon of honey on a warm face cloth, the crack disappeared along with the rash around my eyes and mouth! It never, ever came back. I still wash with honey at least twice a week and it has changed my life. It's worth a shot! Hope it helps. :)
Hi Rachel, Last year I had the same pink around my lips. It really started after I started using a lip balm stick. I told a skin doctor that my lips were dry, even though I was using the regular name brand lip balm sticks, and he suggested Burt's Beeswax. I bought that - it had peppermint in it - and started applying it around the edges of my lips. I developed the same pinkness that you have and could not get rid of it. After the winter was over, and I stopped using anything medicated on my lips (I have no problem with lipsticks), the pinkness slowly disappeared - but it took months. This year I found the Burt's Beeswax Lip Balm stick from last year with Vitamin E and Peppermint, and I stupidly applied it around my lips. Immediately, the next day, my upper lip developed the same pinkness as last year. So now I know there's something in the Burt's Beeswax formula that is causing this. It could be the peppermint, the beeswax - I don't know. But once I get this pinkness, it lasts for a long time. In the past day or so I've applied my standby moisturizers which don't harm me around my lips, hoping that would help, but it hasn't. I think the best thing is to leave the edges of my lips alone as far as moisturizers and creams are concerned, and hopefully the pinkness will go away. I will buy a colorless lipstick to keep my lips moist at night - like a lip gloss. Like you, I don't know what to do about the pinkness around the edges of my lips, now that it has developed again. Sorry that this is not more help, but I just wanted to let you know that the same exact thing happened to me with my lips. And, by the way, I do not have eczema or any other skin or health condition. I am in good health. That Burt's Beeswax did me in!
I have eczema and angular chelitis as well. Although my allergy tests came back negative for everything I know my skin problems are caused by what I eat. What I've learned is that certain foods can still have a negative effect on the body even though you may not be "allergic" to them. I've been doing food elimination diets for the past couple years to determine the causes and now I cut out gluten dairy milk eggs vinegar (and anything with vinegar in it like mustard) and citrus fruits (anything too acidic). It's a lot to eliminate but my skin looks amazing now... and when I have cheats here and there my problems come back. These foods are just not worth it to me. Hope this helps.
I think I had the sMe thing as you and the only thing that worked was wadhing my face with cold water after having a hot shower or washing it with hot water I just did that and I haven't really gotten it again
I had the same lip symptom as yours and I don't know exactly what this lip disease is. It occurs occasionally and cures itself within a week or so but I found a cure for it. I don't know if this works for you but every time my lip disease occurs, I usually cure it with Petroleum Jelly every before bed time and it heals the rash 100% within 2-3 days. I'm still trying to figure out what is the cause of this lip rash of mine.
After 10 months of nasty eczema on my face, neck and right arm this stuff has saved my skin.
I tried all sorts of things including the nonsense prescribed by doctors (steroid cream) which actually made it worse. Pure shea butter is my runner up but wasn't nearly as effective as this miraculous stuff.
Within 2 days of using it I saw a clear improvement and within a week or 2 it was gone. See all the 5* reviews on amazon, if you have eczema this is definitely worth a try. It has all natural ingredients.
I still use it sparingly and only get flare ups now when I eat refined Sugar or bread (wheat/yeast) which are notorious for feeding parasites/candida.
I spritzed coloidal silver on my eczema to keep it clean and avoided shower water on my face/neck as that made it worse. It was tough to begin with but now I'm used to washing my hair and drying it before standing under the shower with my head/neck out.
My patches of eczema had very defined edges btw and didn't fade out at the sides. It spread from my neck to my cheeks and then to my forehead but my neck was always the worst, sometimes it would weep and scab over. All the patches were pink-red and flaky-scaly depending on how angry it was.
The patch of eczema on my arm was HUGE and I'm only just getting my complexion back now but it was a faded white pigment for a long time after the eczema healed.
Also, diet is sacrosanct if you have parasites. Food grade diatom, dried coconut (not the oil), Sea Salt , organic apple cider vinegar, sweet potatoes, cayenne pepper, turmeric capsules (gelatin free), dandelion tea, beets and papaya seeds have all become apart of my vegan diet.
But for repairing the damage already done to your skin I have to recommend Hope's Relief! My dad heard of it by word of mouth and ordered me some as a gift. Amazing product! Let me know if it helps you too.
And if possible please let me know what parasites cause that kind of eczema, I still hear squelching sounds in my gut and feel what might be parasites moving around under my skin (feels like throbbing veins). I first got eczema on my neck at age 16 only a week or so after swallowing dirty water (long story short I almost drowned swimming across a quarry like the stupid teenager I was). That faded when I turned 17 and I didn't see a flare up again till I was 18 on my right arm, that too eventually faded and I was eczema free age 19 but had my worst flare up last year which is the one I've already described to you. It's also worth mentioning I had bad IBS when I was 20 but going vegan sorted that out for the most part. I turned 21 recently, my skin is good but it seems I'm still fighting these vampires. I think I might have seen one once or a cluster of them in the toilet (little white tendrils sticking out of a translucent white blob is the best way I can describe that oddity).
I have it too. I first had it 17 years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter and in Beauty school. My dermatologist told me to quit or it would never heal. It was awful. My palms were both covered in blisters and peeling. I quit working as a cosmetologist a year later and eventually they healed up and stayed pretty good until three years ago. I got into a car wreck and they have been inflamed ever since. Its a real pain.
But here is a strange discovery: two weeks ago I broke a molar and was taking Ibuprofen three times a day. All my blisters cleared up, but now I have a rash on the back of my hands.
I wish I had some answers for you.
I wear gloves whenever I cook or clean just to keep from making it worse.
It won't cure it but it sure makes it feel better. 'Skin Gel' by aloe life is the best & most pure product I have come across if you can find that one.
As for cures I am on the dyshidrosis yahoo group and the only cures I have heard of were obtained through dietary changes such as gluten free diets and eliminating as many toxins in the environment & diet as possible. Also yoga has helped some as they say it is majorly influences by stress. Also, doctors will be of no help to you unless you get an infection or wish to be treated with steroids; with this stuff you are pretty much on your own...
And another thing, if you are open to it I have found rubbing urine on my hands multiple times a day when I have it really mild on the hands helps clear it up beautifully.
But the fact that you are experiencing anything like this is definitely a sign from the body that something is up internally, so ignore it at your own peril because it will keep coming back, and it will get worse. Some of the people I have talked to have had it for 40+ years, not sure to what extent, but I have only had it for a couple and it has severely impacted my life. I have been unable to work or even walk much for the past 3 months or so while having it just as bad on my hands... not fun as you can imagine.
One thing that might be good in the long term ( it is definitely not a short term cure, at least in my case) would be Kombucha. There are a number of reasons for this one of them being the fact that Kombucha acts as a sort of chelating agent which assists in the removal of heavy-metal toxins. Also it is a good probiotic & overall long-term tonic. Pretty much completely safe...
Alot of people on the DE Yahoo Group swear by hi-strength H202 (9-27%) but I have not had much luck with the 3% solution and that burns like f***ing hell! ACV is also goo because your skin is naturally acidic so it doesnt allow bad bacteria to grow on your skin. This burns also if you have any open wounds (best not to pick at it AT ALL, though I know how truly hard this is) as will the UT.
SO, yeah, just some other things I thought of that I am trying and that others use. One more thing I have just started taking 5 grams or more of Chlorella per day as this is also supposed to be great for you all around as well as a complete-protein and heavy metal detoxifier.
Heh...until I found this posting I didn't know the itchy rash I get on my hands had a name other than "eczema" Good to know!
I have not found a cure for this, after suffering for 12+ years with it. It seems to be brought on by many things, from stress, to doing the dishes, to hormone fluctuations around "that time of the month". I have, however, found a few ways to cope with it, and make the symptoms at least BEARABLE.
- use only all-natural bar soap to wash hands and body, preferably cold-processed, and even better, bought from a "company" where you can actually talk to the person who made it. These soaps are typically full of fats, which are soooo good for your skin, and there is little to no chance of there being any SLS in them, which is a trigger for some sufferers. Even if SLS doesn't trigger your outbreaks, it can definitely make it worse with the drying effect it has on your skin. Etsy.com ( http://www.etsy.com
) has literally HUNDREDS of sellers who are making and selling handmade soaps for reasonable prices, and they list their ingredients right on the item pages. Failing that, see if your local store carries "Dr Bronner's Magic Soap", which is just a commercially made and widely-available all natural soap. SLS is damaging to both your skin AND to the environment; check out this MSDS sheet on a bath product additive primarily composed of SLS: http://www.bathbomb.biz/acatalog/MSDS/SLS_Noodles.pdf
They tell you it's a skin irritant, and to try to contain wastewater produced when using it, yet it's in almost every single bath and body product out there. Natural soaps are the way to go.
- Avoid petroleum products when possible. This means reading labels of your shampoo, conditioner, bodywash, lotions, toothpaste, lip balms, and anything else you apply to any part of your body. You'd be amazed at the places manufacturers hide that nasty stuff. I thought my rash was spreading out over my body, but it turned out that the bodywash I was using (and had recently switched to) contained petrolatum, and was causing similar eczematic reactions in places other than my hands. Switching back to a product without petrolatum has since cured that issue and now the outbreaks are once again contained to my hands, which I never thought I'd be glad for until I started breaking out elsewhere as well.
-I recently started using use a salve for my hands called "no more rough patches", made by Pepo Park. There are only 8 ingredients, and all of them are pronounceable, and none of them came from an oil refinery. They are: shea butter, sweet almond oil, cocoa butter, grapeseed oil, beeswax, vitmain E oil, essential oils of lavender and tea tree. This is a WONDERFUL product, and I can't speak highly enough about it after a couple weeks of using it. It's pretty inexpensive, especially considering the relief it's given me, but especially when you compare it to fancy lotions and creams available at tour local drugstore or from your physician. At $10 for a 3.5 oz tin it's a STEAL. It hasn't stopped me from getting the itchy blisters, but then again, nothing EVER has. What it HAS done is eliminated the painful infection and inflammation that always followed the blister breakage, which had been the worst part of this annoying condition. My hands feel softer and smoother, almost like normal again, and the scaly, cracking skin is a thing of the past. Since using this product I have found that the itching and blistering still occur, as they always have, but after the blisters break, they just kind of... heal. It's weird after all these years of applying product after product to no avail, and also quite wonderful. The ingredients are well-known for their healing and moisturizing properties; combined you have an all-in-one moisturizer, anti-microbial, and breathable barrier cream. Anyway, like I said, I can't say enough about this stuff, it's just plain great. You can find their products at their website, http://www.pepopark.com,
and at the low price they sell this stuff for (there's also a smaller tin for $5) you ought to at least give it a shot. Bonus: it works great as a petroleum-free Neosporin alternative on cuts and scrapes as well!
- Another thing to try to avoid is latex. Apparently I have a very mild latex allergy, and wearing rubber gloves to do the dishes by hand always made my hands get WORSE; it took me awhile to figure out it wasn't the heat of the water doing it to me, it was the rubber gloves themselves. An allergy patch test never revealed a latex allergy, yet doing dishes ALWAYS resulted in a new breakout on my hands, usually within an hour of cleaning up. Buy vinyl or nitrile glove if you need to do something which requires immersing your hands for an extended period; since making the switch to wearing vinyl "rubber" gloves, or even nothing at all, the occurrence of new breakouts has dropped dramatically.
Hope some of this helps you, and possibly others; good luck with it!!
I, too, recently discovered that I have dishydrotic dermatitis, or pompholyx.
My hands and feet, in a flare-up, are covered with the beginning postules that break and become scabs. My skin cracks and bleeds and the itch is enough to drive someone crazy - that someone being me.
There's all kinds of advice out there and I've tried pretty much all of it - the "chemical" approach - steroidal creams, cortisone, anti-biotics... the herbal approach - chaparral extraction, evening primrose, Plantolin... all have minor effects on the outbreaks, but nothing that clears. Here's what I know and do...
I've had this all my life. I remember these little "bubbles" on my hands as a child. My father had it. It seems to be something hereditary that loiters, waiting for an opportunity to strike. My first bad flare-up occurred after a session of anti-biotics (the first in over 20 years) taken for bronchial pneumonia. Obviously, my body was under stress and unable to keep this shadow disease at bay any longer. It got loose.
If an outbreak threatens, at the sight of even the smallest little "bubble", I break open capsules of brand name Exact Garlic Oil (1500 mcg), and rub the contents of one on each foot, and one for both hands, put socks on and cotton gloves. This I do before I go to bed. My husband gets hungry because I smell like salami - we giggle. It works.
I've tried real garlic but it's a little harsh on healthy skin, which only makes it worse. The capsules are perfect.
During the day, I use Lac-Hydrin (from the makers of Moisturel), a 12% lactate lotion. It stings where the cracks are for a bit, but when the sting is gone, so is the itch. If a really bad crack develops, I use plain ol' iodine. Again, it stings, but nothing has healed the cracks as fast.
With this compound treatment, I have been wound-free for several months so far, and still counting. Mine WAS as bad as the photos, but all clear now.
And I know they say not to use hot water, but the itch is sometimes all-consuming. Hot water takes the itch away and anything is better than scratching. Use it only as a last resort, tho.
Hello, you may be interested in the testimonial that Allerg’Atopie published on her Facebook page. She has been suffering from severe pompholyx (also called dyshidrotic eczema or dyshidrosis) and reports wonderful results with products from SKINTIFIQUE. This is a new derm company launched by a Harvard Professor and a group of experts from Boston and Paris. The products include a Lotion designed primarily to provide moisturizing and protection against Nickel, Chromium and other metals (dyshidrosis is often a result of allergy to metals), and a Gel cream that provides intense moisturizing and soothing relief to sensitive, allergic or damaged skin. They do not contain any steroids and other drugs known to harm skin over the long run. Hope this can help some readers in this forum
I have something I want to share & hope it works for others. Although I have always been allergy prone and have very sensitive skin.... in February 2013 horrible stress & ailments began. It was a perfect storm ... dental surgery, severe grief/stress .... abrupt life changes, etc.. All I know is within one week of Feb. 7, 2013 so much went wrong no one could believe it. I broke out in hives basically on every square inch of my body... everywhere! And I mean everywhere... & inside my mouth down my throat... tongue, everything. It was life-threatening (my throat closing up rapidly from anything) & diagnosis went everywhere, too... from lichen planus to finally urticarial vasculitis - chronic urticaria with severe angioedema.... Everything in my life changed & pain was excruciating. So, since I could do nothing but resolve my condition... I no doubt tried everything from cold baths, bleach, vinegar, natural remedies, strict diet eliminating all wheat, flours, wine, cheese ... basically almost starving at times... but drinking distilled water .. & praying without ceasing. Over the years, I did get some of the outbreaks to diminish... & I avoided the obvious which would set off a new life-threatening episode .. my face swelling up so severe my eyes were completely swollen shut. The obvious triggers were - raising my blood pressure (any & all stress), talking (it raises blood pressure), parabens, all soaps & shampoos & creme rinses, bug sprays, lawn sprays, sunlight, air pollution, heat, etc... & any industrial fermentation products - which I found out is really in everything now & if you read about the practices of this in our foods - you will definitely be shocked at how much we put our bodies through .... auto-immune actually is a legitimate way the body reacts to horrible bacterial & virus onslaughts. So, along with everything else people may recommend ... yes - please try what would work for you individually & with your doctor... as many things can help with the pain & recovery including a vegetable & seed diet.
So, after several years to 2015 - I really had the angioedema & hives under pretty good control by the Grace of God .. Thank God! However, in 2015 I contracted some kind of virus from a restaurant food I believe... which set everything off again --- but once I was through the worst... my hands began this dreaded dyshidrosis! I looked up everything I could on this.. & again tried everything... My hands were so bad, swollen, useless, painful, ... & huge social disgrace trying to hide them.
I noticed that water or getting them wet at all increased the breakouts. Cotton gloves with plastic gloves over the cotton gloves was the only way I could wash my hair, etc.. During this time I kept reading how staph & strep bacteria were everywhere & always on our skin... some people being better carriers of it to slough it off on everything. I used alcohol &/or bleach wipes to keep the exposure less. I had read where cornstarch was an anti-bug natural remedy to put into the crevices of your house & floor boards ... as there were some ant problems in my house & I could obviously not use ANY bug spray or most cleaning products. Well.. Praise God! the cornstarch worked in keeping my home bug free.
During these past years, I had tried different powders .... medicated or anti-fungal, etc.... to relieve itching & breakouts.... but like Benadryl NOTHING really helped.... I bought a new Johnson's baby powder of "pure constarch" with aloe & vitamin E... & noticing it said it absorbs moisture... I determined that my hands were only better when they were overly dry... So, I put some in a plastic bag *so I wouldn't inhale any powder)- & "washed" my hands in this pure cornstarch. Wow! it really began relieving my hands! I kept this up... & like I would go out of my way to NEVER get my hands wet.. but just leave them totally covered all the time in cornstarch rubbed in constantly. Within about two months, my hands were really pretty good... by three months it was a regular routine & I was actually excited & amazed to have my hands back at all. It has now been over 7 months & no outbreaks! Thank you Jesus!
When I start to feel anything ... especially two fingers often start-up & sometimes my palms get the characteristic bumps... I immerse & rub in the cornstarch! It stops the new eruption / breakout cold!.. I have also found it stops most of my hives on my face, too - if they ever get in contact with whatever might trigger the angioedema /urticaria problem.
My theory on this is strictly an opinion, but I believe my body's immune system is re-acting to real threats of bacteria, virus, mold, etc.. from contact on my skin to my internal intestines. Since I have a very strict diet - I am not exposing myself to huge amounts of industrial fermentation - bacteria, etc.. inside... and as far as outside contact.... I believe when I touch something on my skin or hands which no doubt contains the typical staph / strep bacteria everywhere. the cornstarch somehow surrounds the bacteria & prevents the site from getting further deep into my skin..... whereas washing my hands in water & any soap... kind of opens the skin pores more allowing the bacteria to go deeper into the skin. I also ALWAYS wash my hair, hands etc... in the coldest water I can stand as otherwise the heated up skin/ scalp will have a re-action.
As this remedy has worked for me (& my daughter, too - who has some skin problems) - I have been meaning to post it for others to find - since I gained a lot of insight during all these years from the support groups etc.. for severe skin & auto-immune disorders.
Best to all of you & much love! ... & may God bless all!
I've developed this strange rash after sleeping in different bedsheets. I'm assuming it's either that, or possibly from accidental contact with poison ivy the same night when I was enjoying a bonfire. I've had this for about three weeks I think?
I'm not sure what it is. At first I thought it was just a bad reaction to mosquito bites. I have a hard time resisting the itch now. It's so itchy... It's driving me crazy. It's very distracting, and I'm worried it could get worse. I don't know how to make the itching stop or what to take to get rid of it.
I'd really appreciate it if anyone could suggest what it might be, but really I just want an itch remedy. Pretty sure it'll go away if I don't mess with it, but the urge to itch is strong within me!
About 2 months ago, I wrote to you this message ....
I've had a problem with dry, peeling lips for the past 5 years. I've never had problems with my lips or any skin problems for that matter before. Well, about 5 years ago, I was smoking weed when I noticed that my lips were very chapped and peeling. Thats when I started using chapstick. However, since then, my lips never healed and returned to its "normal" state. My lips are always dry and they dry up quickly. Say for instance, I wash my lips. At that instant, my lips might appear to be fine, however, 1-2 hrs later, my lips will have dried up and start to get crusty.
Currently, I break up a vitamin E capsule at night and then apply it on my lips. Then in the morning, I try to clean my lips so to speak and then apply crisco which keeps my lips presentable for and hr or so. Then I have to wash my lips and either apply more crisco or apply some african shea butter so I can exfoliate the lip skin later on during the day.
The problem seems like my lip is unable to moisturize itself. It simply just drys up. My lips will dry up, either crack or get "hard" and then peel. The dried up skin also turns white when in contact with water. It seems to be worst on my bottom lip and on the middle bottom of my upper lip.
Currently, Im trying to order your book and I want to try liver cleansing.
I no longer drink alcohol, smoke or do drugs. I drink plenty of water and I exercise at least couple times a week by running.
This lip problem has taken my "life" away from me. I just want it back.
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The problem is not really in the skin of your lips, but reflects an inflammatory condition in the colon, parts of the small intestines and some in the stomach. The inner skin that enfolds the GI tract is irritated and may have developed small lesions. Drugs do that, and certain foods and beverages do that as well. The lower lip mostly represents the condition of the large intestines and the upper lip mostly that of the stomach. Eating a lot of acid-forming foods such as animal proteins and any processed, refined, micro-waved, frozen foods acidify the intestinal lining and walls and force the outer "skin" lining in both the intestines and lips to be replaced or shed more quickly and more often than normal. It is not a disease, but a survial mechanism. When you receive Timeless, Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation (www.ener-chi.com), make sure to follow the guidelines for diet according to body type and the recommended bed and mealtimes. When the lips reduce the swelling you will know that the intestinnal wounds are also healing up. Then you can start liver cleansing. In the meanwhile, to support the body, you may use colosan (now in capsule form from FamilyHealthNews.com) and a colonic irrigation of colema from time to time.
Since then, Ive used the colosan(2 bottles) and really tried to change my diet to my body type(vata). I see an overall improvement about 30%. I say 20% because although I noticed that my lip skins peels much slower, it STILL gets dry and eventually peels. Also, it gets white when in contact with water. I'm currently applying east african shea butter throughout the day and night and sometimes even crisco. I find your book to be AMAZING, and I have not yet finished it because of my current busy schedule but Im really trying to focus on the recommended diet for my body type and Im also trying really hard to not eat dinner beyond 7pm. I'm also applying borage oil on my forearms and stomach before I go to sleep. Someone with a similar problem to mine did this for couple days and his lips were HEALED(he had this problem for 5+ yrs too). However, it seems like its not working for me.
Andreas, I am currently ordering more colosan and Im trying harder to be more discipline in my diet. In the meantime, what would you recommend that I apply on my lips during the day and night to keep it from getting hard and dry. Out of everything that Ive tried, it seems like the eastern african shea butter is working the best.
I still have hope in your "treatment" and I just wanted to ask you if you could give me some advice on what to do.........
Thank you so much
I would stay with the African shea butter, if that works for you. There is no other reason for dry lips than digestive trouble. Liver cleansing is the way to break into the vicious cycle, and along with colon cleansing and a more alkaline-forming diet it should completely restore normal lip skin.
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Andreas's message to you is spot on!
I had nasty, dry peeling lips for many years .. so cracked that they would bleed when I smiled! After my first liver flush, my lips literally shed a thick layer of skin (I felt like a smake) and underneath, suddenly I had gorgeous, smooth and pink lips - all plump and moist! I never need to wear lip salve now.
My lips have not been cracked since .. occasioanlly when I have had a few days of eating junk tyoe foods, i can see my lips getting dry .. but liver flushing and changing eating habits have ensured I never have that condition again.
I just can't believe that!, it seems that everybody on here who has the really bad lips got them becuase our lips got chapped and then used chapstick or some kind of cream on them which has made them worse!. If this problem was our digestion then why did our lips not peel earlier? it's a bit of a coincidence that we all got bad lips after useing chapstic/cream - surely the asnwer is in there!
I stopped drinking and smoking for 4 months and ate healthy and it made sod all difference to my lips!
I now get hammered and smoke 20 fags a night when I want and if I'm pissed it has no bearing on my lips nor if I spend a whole week eating kfc or processed foods!
The only way my lips have improved is by leaving them alone and over time - : we are talking months to years here they begin to peel back slower!
Has Dr Andreas seen a case like ours and completely cured it!, I bet the answer is no!
yeah i agree with you dude this cleancing stuff seems bogus i know because im a vegan
i even tried eating meat to see if the nutrients will help but that cleanseing stuff sounds like an infomercials you see on tv usually a white guy with a big goofy smile telling you how great there product works. i want to see at least ancedotal evidencethat that works
I've had this peeling lip problem since I was a kid. I agree with the guy who said that chapstick and crap made it worse. Last year I didn't have the problem anymore when I quit using all that stuff completely..but it took months for it to slowly work and somehow I ended up with the problem again. I think it had to do with eating a diet high in EFAS.
I've been on The Master Cleanse for 3 weeks now and they've been at their worst! I should be pretty alkaline now, so go figure...
I'll be doing a Liver Flush in a couple weeks. I'll post my results after that.
I have exactly the same problem, have found ways to improve it, but not yet a definite solution. Apologies for the length of the text which will follow; but I would like to take you through a brief history of how my problem developed, in hope to potentially flag the root cause behind it which might have been overlooked by other participants and myself. I do believe there is a root cause and that it can be solved.
I live in the UK. When I was at university, I had a somewhat bad acne problem, and took a medicine called Roacutane which is basically a very large dose of vitamin A, which causes your entire body skin to dry severely and eventually get rid of acne. While I was taking it, my lips were always dry and I noticed I would sweet less. After curing the acne, I stopped taking the medicine and was back to normal - including lips, nice and healthy.
Two years later, I graduated, moved in with my girlfriend and started working at an office. I am and was very healthy, eating plenty of vegetables, fruits, high quality extra virgin olive oil and exercising. Little alcohol and absolutely zero drugs and junk food. The only lifestyle changed, which is small, was the fact that I started drinking one cup of coffee a day and perhaps giving my girlfriend oral sex more frequently than before.
Three months later, I was casually working in my office and when I went to the toilet I noticed an unusual "white layer" across my entire lower lip after I washed it - for no apparent reason. Months afterwards I gradually entered into the "peeling cycle" which is roughly the following: Day 1: lips begin drying; Day 2: "skin pockets" on the lower lips start to appear, and when you touch them you realise the outer layer of skin is detached from the inner; Day 3: vertical cracks across lower lips appear and eventually peel off through washing or biting. Day 4: Start all over again, never ending. This situation is very uncomfortable, although barely noticeable for other people. Unless I get inpatient half way through the cycle, and get multi-layers peeling at different phases. This process continued for one whole year.
Then, I spend long holidays in a tropical country during the summer. This included being in a hot weather, swimming in the sea, eating more fruits, less coffee and more food in general. My lips improved significantly, to the point I simply forgot about the peeling. It is important to note though that my perception of the reduced peeling was exaggerated as I was busy with other activities. During this time, I also visited a dermatologist who advised me it was not exfoliative cheilitis, but simply dry lips. I think he did not know what he was talking about. But he prescribed me a custom made moisturising lip balm, based on the fat that birds secrete on their feathers to stop sinking into water (sounds nasty, I know, but it's not as it is only about 2 - 3% of this substance).
I returned to the UK, and my lips carried the "healthy momentum" for a few months, but then gradually started to return to the previous cycling. The bird oil thing lip balm helped dramatically, it is in fact the only substance that manages to hold it off. I now stopped using it because I ran out, and my lips are going out of control again. I tried all sorts of balms but none has worked. I would like to point out that Vaseline (petroleum based) makes it even worst, so do not use it!
Now let's narrow the biggest suspects:
1. Diet: my diet has not really changed much since then, in fact, it has improved, so I would rule it out of the equation.
2. Coffee: rather unlikely too as first I take little and second many people take it without side-effects (plus I just love coffee).
3. Oral sex: would make sense from a bacterial point of view, but I have spent one year without doing it and experienced no changes. So I do not think that is the case either.
4. Stress: definitely not, I'm zen.
5. Roacutane medicine (vitamin A overdose): this could be the trigger, but interestingly enough, the problem only began two years after I stopped taking it as opposed to have dragged on right away. So perhaps not.
I will try the liver cleansing and will post my results. I have never tried it before so it will be a good base for assessment.
Please let me know if you have any ideas of what could be the trigger for this condition. And ideally, the cure.
Roacutane medicine is known to cause people to become hypersensitive with allergies. It could be that you developed allergies after the medication, possibly lots of food sensitivities or allergies. Not sure.
Yes, I have come across several stories of people developing EC after going through the Roaccutane treatment. However for me, the EC did not simply continue after the drug intake, but started out of nowhere nearly two years after. So one could say that it might have made me more prone to it, but perhaps it is not the only cause.
Perhaps I am simply naturally or due to the Roaccutane, prone to this problem. Then under the right conditions, it develops easily. This makes me believe that I might have acquired candida through oral sex with my gf, in one particular occasion when she might have had a larger flora than usual, and this triggered the condition. I have not been diagnosed with Candida Overgrowth (yet), however I remember often seeing my lips with a thin sort of white slime, which looks like this type of colony.
I do not believe any cream or remedy will solve the root cause of this problem, but rather only cover up the effects. So I will try a machine gun approach on nutrition and cleansing.
From next weekend (05/09/13) I will do a:
1. Classic Liver flush
2. Go through an intensive vitamin intake (mostly B and E)
3. Verify if I have candida, and if yes, will attack it naturally and with nutrition
4. Will keep using the 1% PCA NA moisturising lip balm (which works brilliantly well btw; it does not cure the root cause, but makes my lips 80% normal)to keep my lips hanging while they heal
I will make a log of peeling cycles and will take regular pictures, so that if it works (and I am optimistic it will) I can confidently share the cure. The entire process will probably take a few months, and with winter coming to the UK it won't help, but we'll get there.
if you take accutane, roaccutane, isotretinoin, you atrohpied your sebum glands in all of your body in some degree, there are some cases were sebum and acne come back, but if no you need superdosess of testosterone like in the gyms to get your skin and lips cured, and to make your glands grow back to normal. here is the blog that explain it all
Possibly a combination of things such as the Rocutaine (devastating drug, I took Accutaine and blame that on my gluten intolerance) plus a lack of vitamin D from the sun.
Vitamin D works in concert with many things and when our D levels drop in the winter, lots of things can go out of whack.
You might look into calendula salve for your lips. I had angular chelitis briefly until I began to put that on the corners of my mouth and it went away in a couple of days and hasn't returned.
Also, I have no idea if it would help, but Dr. Christopher's bone and tissue massage oil has been a miracle for many things.
I also love Traumeel which is arnica cream. Don't know if I'd put it on my lips though.
Hope some of these help, but really, first thing is to optimize your D levels either by taking D3 in large doses, buying a vitamin D lamp, or sitting in the sun at the right time of year and day. I'm not sure what that is for England. For Canada, it's May - Sept from 10am - 2pm.
Mine went away for quite a while after working outside and also having to take large doses of L-lysine to stop having fever blisters from working outside. I'm not sure if it was the lysine or vitamin D from sun or combined, it went away but is back now. I left the seasonal job at the end of last year. I'm going to try taking lysine & vitamin D supplements as well as coconut oil with paleo diet in case of candida/yeast. Thanks for sharing.
As a brass player this problem is very annoying to me for any sound that i produce are being produced by the vibrations of my lips. When all my skins have peeled, too much air and vibrations go into the instrument what leaves leaks in the corners of my mouth. A thick skin has more stability that leaves no leaking air, but for the mouthpiece to cooperate properly i have too push it too hard against my lips. Somewhat in the middle of the peeling process my lips feel perfectly fine and i can play at my best. I don't use any balms or chap sticks because they only seem to weaken the skin on my lips even faster and eventually when playing (or sometimes even before that) they start peeling of.
To be honest i often have midnight snacks which are not particularly healthy and could definitely worsen my lips due to digestion problems. Besides that i eat after 7 pm i cannot believe that this causes the problem. I can find myself with lack of vitamin D and/or E and that i smoked weed for 2 years as an explanation.
I started out running for an average 6 km a day which leaves me with an extreme energy boost. But still no change with my lips. I am clean for 5 months now and had hoped there would be some positive outcomes.
Via google i found this forum and i was very intrigued by all the answers and questions that stand here. The only question remaining is how to perform a Liver Flush or cleansing??? I olso have migraine (when usually happens when i have too much gal in my liver) could this be my problem? I figured that if gal is stored in the liver maybe this could help me out with returning my lips to their former glory :).
Srry for the bad English i tried my best. Good luck to all of you and hopefully i get a reply on how to perform a liver flush.
I've always had a problem with somewhat dry lips, but never peeling or severely chapped lips that I would have to peel an entire layer off daily or every other day. Like many, this condition only effects my bottom lip. It started happening approximately a year ago and had HAUNTED me since. It lead to paranoia about the physical appearance of my lip at any given time, and was just overall painful. Peeling of the dead skin would sometimes rip fresh skin underneath leaving it raw and bleeding. Everything I could find online would chalk it up to chelitis, dehydration, lip balms, liver cleansing, etcetera. I knew none of these should be the source for me because I'd never had the problem before, and my lifestyle is much healthier than any other time in my life. I wanted to get a biopsy, buy had no health insurance.
Solution (for me):
I guessed that the problem must be fungal or bacterial.
-Oral sex (Vagina)
My hypothesis is my bottom lip was infected by my electric toothbrush head. Approximately a year ago (slightly before the problem started) I bought my first electric toothbrush. Instead of removing the head of the toothbrush from the body after brushing, I would just rinse it and put it on the stand. I later realized this was trapping water and overtime causing bacteria to grow unseen inside the brush head.
-Bleach bath for lip
I've been on this regimen for about 10 days and I'm already seeing AMAZING results. Some doctors prescribe "bleach baths" to patients with skin infections, so I figure it wouldn't hurt to replicate to scale for my lip. I put a few drops of bleach in a small glass (large shot glass) then fill it 3/4 full with water. Stir it up, then submerge my bottom lip in the solution for 2 minutes once a day for 5 days. Rinse thoroughly, then apply a thin layer of an anti-fungal cream; rub it in and let dry. After the cream drys, apply Carmax lightly on top of. Apply the anti-fungal cream 2-3 times a day.
What anti-fungal cream?
-Clotrimazole Cream (the same cream used to treat Jock Itch, Ringworm, and Athletes Foot)
Amazing, and I'm only a week in. My lip is not drying and crusting much anymore. My bottom lip still needs VERY LIGHT exfoliation about once every third or so day, but the skin comes off easily and does cause any tearing or irritation. My lip is left with a smooth continuous healthy looking layer.
As I said, I'm only a week in, but these are the best results I've received with trying everything I could read under the sun(except the liver cleanse). I really hope this helps someone, because this issue was really starting to depress me, and I just didn't know what to do. Please let me know if this works for you. Once again, I wouldn't recommend the "bleach bath" for longer that a week. If you don't want to do the bleach, you may try just the antifungal cream, or antifungal and substitute the bleach batch for Tea Tree oil cut with coconut or another healthy oil of your choice.